Left Wing vs Right Wing
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No, they modified Indian numerals which were themselves modified from Brahmi numerals.
And the Arabic numerals were missing several compared to what modern 0-9 looks like.
https://www.archimedes-lab.org/numeral.html
And the Arabic numerals were missing several compared to what modern 0-9 looks like.
https://www.archimedes-lab.org/numeral.html
it's not a stretch to say that
if i asked you a cliche nerdy question
like What if there were no algorithms on the Planet how would have current IT sciences and calculations function you're answer would be no different then.." modren technology wouldn't exist"
that's all thx to Al Khawrizmi and the guy never gets appreciated or even mentioned in most western circles i bet
that goes for advancements in optics, air machines, medicines, photography sciences
ofc current science owes alot to many minds but just know that there were gems like some including Al Khawrizmi.. and honestly people don't even know of and use their ignorance to predicate their mockery of our religion
if i asked you a cliche nerdy question
like What if there were no algorithms on the Planet how would have current IT sciences and calculations function you're answer would be no different then.." modren technology wouldn't exist"
that's all thx to Al Khawrizmi and the guy never gets appreciated or even mentioned in most western circles i bet
that goes for advancements in optics, air machines, medicines, photography sciences
ofc current science owes alot to many minds but just know that there were gems like some including Al Khawrizmi.. and honestly people don't even know of and use their ignorance to predicate their mockery of our religion
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This can't be true. Most issues have a right and a wrong position.
Slavery was wrong, the people who supported it were wrong. There is no both sides to this.
Modern issues might seem to be more ambiguous, but there're still clear right and wrong answers.
"should america, the only developed country with routine mass shootings and similarly lax gun laws, regulate firearms so that they are harder for potential criminals to aquire?" Yes
Slavery was wrong, the people who supported it were wrong. There is no both sides to this.
Modern issues might seem to be more ambiguous, but there're still clear right and wrong answers.
"should america, the only developed country with routine mass shootings and similarly lax gun laws, regulate firearms so that they are harder for potential criminals to aquire?" Yes
First off al-Khwarizmi is given credit widely among mathematic historians for his CONTRIBUTIONS, revisionists try to paint him as some sole figure without which modern mathematics wouldn't exist, that isn't in line with reality.
Development of modern mathematics is thanks to a succession of genius men in all areas of the world as you admit in the rest of your post, most of the significant figures happen to be European men. None of these men existed in a vacuum and you can argue the duality of culture vs individual genius men to a certain extent.
Sure there are both sides to slavery.
There aren't both sides to all sorts of slavery but some sorts of slavery can be defended through logic and reason and even morality.
There is even more nuance when it comes to the question about gun ownership than slavery.
Pretending principled opposition with reasoned arguments doesn't exist is not good practice.
Development of modern mathematics is thanks to a succession of genius men in all areas of the world as you admit in the rest of your post, most of the significant figures happen to be European men. None of these men existed in a vacuum and you can argue the duality of culture vs individual genius men to a certain extent.
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Sure there are both sides to slavery.
There aren't both sides to all sorts of slavery but some sorts of slavery can be defended through logic and reason and even morality.
There is even more nuance when it comes to the question about gun ownership than slavery.
Pretending principled opposition with reasoned arguments doesn't exist is not good practice.
they claim rightfully so but I'm talking about concurrent times not historians of the past.. kfc they'd recognize him in classical mathematics , ... the fundamentals matters.. and Algorithm's existence and concept is the point so that in in lime with reality it doesn't matter if people built upon it if it never extended this aspect of fundamental principle of math such developments wouldn't happen...
but the point is its a monumental invention and still carries fundamental worth in these times.. and should be appreciated than shrugged off as "Owo Many Did The similar" look thats not the point mate.. the point is such things existed and people either ignore it or try to underrate it..
but the point is its a monumental invention and still carries fundamental worth in these times.. and should be appreciated than shrugged off as "Owo Many Did The similar" look thats not the point mate.. the point is such things existed and people either ignore it or try to underrate it..
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Except that is ignoring the fact that we lost info and then it was rediscovered/ rebuilt by others multiple times in history.
al-Khwarizmi himself is for the most part compiling and rebuilding what others before him had done, not a knock on him, just the reality, do you want to say by the same token that al-Khwarizmi wouldn't exist without Euclid or Diophantus?
Do you think Diophantus is a household name also?
al-Khwarizmi himself is for the most part compiling and rebuilding what others before him had done, not a knock on him, just the reality, do you want to say by the same token that al-Khwarizmi wouldn't exist without Euclid or Diophantus?
Do you think Diophantus is a household name also?
I suppose they are, they’re the World Government and all.
I read your posts, regarding the left wing, and I see several aspects that are spouted by the same American right wing, Israeli right wing, European right wing etc.
I have no horse in the race, at least for now, but I find it jarring, how they’re similar, the motivations, the arguments, the defenses, the insults at the opposition and the left wingers issues with right wingers and viceversa, like one Country after the other is doing a copypasta for both sides of the spectrum, when in the past, thinkers from all around the globe had different worldviews, now, everyone, either says “true communism has never been tried”, or “capitalism is good for you” “a bit of socialism will do you wonders” “we must defend our traditions” “we must fight transphobia” “seculiar humanism is the only way” abortion and so on, literally we’re discussing ideologies of ghosts because there is no innovation in leadership, and if there is, it comes from America, and it must be copied asap. Hell, IIRC you’re from Brazil, and there’s certain key aspects of Bolsonaro that are Trumpesque, which is seen as good by his voters, and bad from the opposition. And I don’t say this necessarily in a negative way, my right wing party has copied certain Trumpesque aspects, my left wing party Obamaesque, and then another party who’s basically Bernie but with no education. Like they think there’s no cultural, resources or geopolitical difference, one side fits all type of deal, if it works there, it works everywhere.
That’s honestly the underling issue to me, before we get to decide if what you descrive is positive or negative, we should ask ourselves, why all other Countries are basically slaves to a political dogma (be it you consider it positive or negative ) born in America, and if it can be solved without having America implode from within (no offense
) so that they regain their own volition
I read your posts, regarding the left wing, and I see several aspects that are spouted by the same American right wing, Israeli right wing, European right wing etc.
I have no horse in the race, at least for now, but I find it jarring, how they’re similar, the motivations, the arguments, the defenses, the insults at the opposition and the left wingers issues with right wingers and viceversa, like one Country after the other is doing a copypasta for both sides of the spectrum, when in the past, thinkers from all around the globe had different worldviews, now, everyone, either says “true communism has never been tried”, or “capitalism is good for you” “a bit of socialism will do you wonders” “we must defend our traditions” “we must fight transphobia” “seculiar humanism is the only way” abortion and so on, literally we’re discussing ideologies of ghosts because there is no innovation in leadership, and if there is, it comes from America, and it must be copied asap. Hell, IIRC you’re from Brazil, and there’s certain key aspects of Bolsonaro that are Trumpesque, which is seen as good by his voters, and bad from the opposition. And I don’t say this necessarily in a negative way, my right wing party has copied certain Trumpesque aspects, my left wing party Obamaesque, and then another party who’s basically Bernie but with no education. Like they think there’s no cultural, resources or geopolitical difference, one side fits all type of deal, if it works there, it works everywhere.
That’s honestly the underling issue to me, before we get to decide if what you descrive is positive or negative, we should ask ourselves, why all other Countries are basically slaves to a political dogma (be it you consider it positive or negative ) born in America, and if it can be solved without having America implode from within (no offense
) so that they regain their own volition
I read book called might is right book by ragnar redbeard (pen name and unknow author , some say this author is anarchist guy is too busy planning to kill king ) and it explain how literally political stuff and human nature. I know this book has Anti-Christian stuff , hate Jesus , love ancient beliefs liking Viking , racism, sexism, but it has good point about how reality world is. Btw I don’t agree with books many times, but I can see the point author is trying to make.
I summary this .
There are no such thing rights in nature . George Carlin is right about this.
For right are created by humans. Of course you can argue God create the right but it is different topics.
‘It take power to create the rights , not given .
Let talk democracy and mob rule.
‘Why nobody actually do it in reality ?
Answer : The people hope the smart elites folks to make better world and giving better stuff.
Or they think mob rule is bad and lead choas zone
Adultery used to be illegal in USA and other countries. Good luck passing the law when 70% or more people today don’t think adultery is crime . You have to be dictator to override majority opposition to pass anti-adultery law.
‘Of you can try influence many people to gain power appearance. Rulers did this before. Also it create the power.
Same apply to slavery, homosexuality , drugs, healthcare, alternatives marriage , etc.
It is only power change the laws or create the laws by people from mob rule, dictator , elites, etc.
Strong men create the laws and weak people obey the laws. Weak become strong enough to overthrown strong rulers . Same weak guys have become strong and become strong rulers to change any laws he like it.
The book of might tell your in individual stand and stand up to be strong .
So I view the world is ruled by might . That how I see how the world and laws created. That is my viewpoint on politics.
Of course , 95% people would disagree with me . That fine with me.
do i seem to deny that math wasn't an Islamic invention? i even said said its contingent upon existence of other discoveries.. yet its still fundamental and it seems like you're actively dodging by positing irrelevant facts.. and even suppositions like "lost invention" it just shows that you're actively deflecting the truth that it has fundamental bearings to the present by nit acknowledging it..
instead again positing irrelevant facts like crediting those preceding him for what he has done.. thats straight up disingenuous mate.
instead again positing irrelevant facts like crediting those preceding him for what he has done.. thats straight up disingenuous mate.
"it doesn't matter if people built upon it if it never extended this aspect of fundamental principle of math such developments wouldn't happen "
The TEXT in his work bears no resemblance to MODERN mathematics, demanding he be a household name, where countless genius before and after him aren't reeks of a narrative.
That isn't in line with a history filled with competing works, lost works, found works, compiled works. Putting his work as completely foundational to people 1000 years after him is a philosophical debate of the butterfly effect.
Would One Piece artwork be the "same" if Leonardo DaVinci didn't paint the Mona Lisa? no and in fact Oda's great ^24 grandparents wouldn't have had sex on the right day with the right sperm to make Oda's great^23 grandfather, so Oda wouldn't even exist. Math wouldn't be the "same" without one of these genius men existing and making their contribution, it also wouldn't be the "same" without the mundane man whose life choices impact the world around him and create the butterfly effect, it may be better or worse, but modern mathematics is more influenced by a lot of other people, whether it comes to the proofs, the methods or the notation involved.
The TEXT in his work bears no resemblance to MODERN mathematics, demanding he be a household name, where countless genius before and after him aren't reeks of a narrative.
That isn't in line with a history filled with competing works, lost works, found works, compiled works. Putting his work as completely foundational to people 1000 years after him is a philosophical debate of the butterfly effect.
Would One Piece artwork be the "same" if Leonardo DaVinci didn't paint the Mona Lisa? no and in fact Oda's great ^24 grandparents wouldn't have had sex on the right day with the right sperm to make Oda's great^23 grandfather, so Oda wouldn't even exist. Math wouldn't be the "same" without one of these genius men existing and making their contribution, it also wouldn't be the "same" without the mundane man whose life choices impact the world around him and create the butterfly effect, it may be better or worse, but modern mathematics is more influenced by a lot of other people, whether it comes to the proofs, the methods or the notation involved.
I know this is rich coming from me, the guy who was banned from the 2020 election thread more times than the number of right-wingers who still think it was stolen, but THIS IS A FUCKING ANIME FORUM, WHY THE SHIT DO WE NEED TO HEAR THE BIGGEST REJECTS IN THE FANDOM WAX PHILOSOPHICAL ON GOVERNMENT REGULATION WHEN THEY CAN’T READ A GOD DAMN COMIC BOOK WITHOUT BURSTING INTO FURIOUS TEARS 
Wrong.School shootings have to do with mental health issues and malice.There is a movement that forbids family from locking up schizophrenic people in America.Most of these mass shooters are loonies that should be locked up in mental health institution.
People should try calculating stuff with Roman numerals and see how fast they are...
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People should try calculating stuff with Roman numerals and see how fast they are...
read https://www.archimedes-lab.org/numeral.html
also "people should try calculating stuff with nebulous philosophical principles rather than modern mathematics" is more germane to the topic at hand when lifting up 1200 year old maths that predates any sort of modern notation.
also "people should try calculating stuff with nebulous philosophical principles rather than modern mathematics" is more germane to the topic at hand when lifting up 1200 year old maths that predates any sort of modern notation.