General & Others Let's talk about the outcome of Sanji vs Page One...Round 3

#61
The outcome of the attack in both manga and anime is Raisin flying away, nothing is changed.

Wapol was already defeated even before the last hit.
So, was Wapol defeated because he was stuck in the ceiling but wasn't Raisin because we never saw him again? XD

Buggy is the same, he wasn't uncounscious but he was punched away.

Also, Sanji breaked Pacisfita's neck with a nameless kick..
 

nik87

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#62
So, was Wapol defeated because he was stuck in the ceiling but wasn't Raisin because we never saw him again? XD
Buggy is the same, he wasn't uncounscious but he was punched away.
Also, Sanji breaked Pacisfita's neck with a nameless kick..
Sanji has a history of not defeating people with 1 kick, even if they are cheap shots.
Bobbin remained standing from a cheap shot and Raisin is a higher ranked individual of a Yonko crew.
We didnt see PageOne couple of weeks either, he wasnt defeated. Not being shown =/= defeated.
 
#63
Sanji has a history of not defeating people with 1 kick, even if they are cheap shots.
Bobbin remained standing from a cheap shot and Raisin is a higher ranked individual of a Yonko crew.
We didnt see PageOne couple of weeks either, he wasnt defeated. Not being shown =/= defeated.
Like Momoo or the Bananawani or Satori or Jerry or the PX? Bobbin was kicked by a not diable jambe's kick meanwhile Raisin was kicked by a Diable Jambe's kick, it's not the same and, furthermore, the mental state of Sanji is not the same.

Page One had weeks for recovery if he was k.o., we don't know was happen there. Plus, his case and the Raisin's case is different because in one case Oda changed the front and in the other did not.
 
#64
It is obvious that Sanji defeated Page One. Sanji at full power can rival at least Luffy's gear 3 attacks and that was enough to K.O Page One. Besides, Sanji wouldnt leave Page One go bersek on the town for his fault, since he was the beeing search.
 
#65
It is obvious that Sanji defeated Page One. Sanji at full power can rival at least Luffy's gear 3 attacks and that was enough to K.O Page One. Besides, Sanji wouldnt leave Page One go bersek on the town for his fault, since he was the beeing search.
Didn't the anime show that he was fine right after?

Sanji didn't K.O anyone. He got a good kick in and dipped. If Page One can take a gear 3 post upon training with the new haki & all he gets is a slightly loosened jaw, and seemed fine, sanji's kick gave him a damn good headache. He was down and got up shortly after.
 
#66
Didn't the anime show that he was fine right after?

Sanji didn't K.O anyone. He got a good kick in and dipped. If Page One can take a gear 3 post upon training with the new haki & all he gets is a slightly loosened jaw, and seemed fine, sanji's kick gave him a damn good headache. He was down and got up shortly after.
The Anime also made Sanji kick P1 over 30 times before he went hybrid, while it took only 1 kick in the manga. The anime made Sanji kick him over 30 times in total, drop an attack that looked like a nuke and P1 was stil fine lol
Anime is filler, when will people finaly get it?

The simple fact that P1 went missing after the fight for over a week makes it more than obvious that he got knocked out. It was his and Drakes job to kill Sanji, then why did we only see Drake in the next day? Where was P1? Why wasn't the city getting destroyed further? It worked to lure Sanji out the first time, why not keep doing it? Sanji attacked P1 exactly of that reason in the first place, so he doesn't destroy the city and endanger the people there.
This shit is so obvious, but ofc some people use fillers and mental gymnastics for their biased reasons.

Who says Luffy used his new Haki on P1? That moment was obviously saved for chapter 1000 and Luffy damaging Kaidou.
 
#67
The Anime also made Sanji kick P1 over 30 times before he went hybrid, while it took only 1 kick in the manga. The anime made Sanji kick him over 30 times in total, drop an attack that looked like a nuke and P1 was stil fine lol
Anime is filler, when will people finaly get it?

The simple fact that P1 went missing after the fight for over a week makes it more than obvious that he got knocked out. It was his and Drakes job to kill Sanji, then why did we only see Drake in the next day? Where was P1? Why wasn't the city getting destroyed further? It worked to lure Sanji out the first time, why not keep doing it? Sanji attacked P1 exactly of that reason in the first place, so he doesn't destroy the city and endanger the people there.
This shit is so obvious, but ofc some people use fillers and mental gymnastics for their biased reasons.

Who says Luffy used his new Haki on P1? That moment was obviously saved for chapter 1000 and Luffy damaging Kaidou.
I just think you're vastly overrating a kick from sanji. Unless they're fodder Sanji doesn't one hit knock out his opponents. Hell Yonji got offscreen but he was still conscious.

There's no reason to actually believe page one would be knocked out and oda not actually show it. Also during that section of the manga oda was skipping several days at a time anyways.

I'm not saying sanji can't win but he for damn sure didn't knock him out off screen.
 
#69
Didn't the anime show that he was fine right after?

Sanji didn't K.O anyone. He got a good kick in and dipped. If Page One can take a gear 3 post upon training with the new haki & all he gets is a slightly loosened jaw, and seemed fine, sanji's kick gave him a damn good headache. He was down and got up shortly after.
Just as @Hiragaro said, anime is filler, but IMO just when it shows something different shown or said to the manga. And this is the case.


The Anime also made Sanji kick P1 over 30 times before he went hybrid, while it took only 1 kick in the manga. The anime made Sanji kick him over 30 times in total, drop an attack that looked like a nuke and P1 was stil fine lol
Anime is filler, when will people finaly get it?

The simple fact that P1 went missing after the fight for over a week makes it more than obvious that he got knocked out. It was his and Drakes job to kill Sanji, then why did we only see Drake in the next day? Where was P1? Why wasn't the city getting destroyed further? It worked to lure Sanji out the first time, why not keep doing it? Sanji attacked P1 exactly of that reason in the first place, so he doesn't destroy the city and endanger the people there.
This shit is so obvious, but ofc some people use fillers and mental gymnastics for their biased reasons.

Who says Luffy used his new Haki on P1? That moment was obviously saved for chapter 1000 and Luffy damaging Kaidou.
That was the purpose of P1, how can be say that Sanji let him and ran away? P1 would destroy everything until Sanji appears once again. People must think.

I just think you're vastly overrating a kick from sanji. Unless they're fodder Sanji doesn't one hit knock out his opponents. Hell Yonji got offscreen but he was still conscious.

There's no reason to actually believe page one would be knocked out and oda not actually show it. Also during that section of the manga oda was skipping several days at a time anyways.

I'm not saying sanji can't win but he for damn sure didn't knock him out off screen.
It is not overrating his kicks, it was also not just one, the fight was offpaneled and the only thing we see is P1 screaming out of pain. Not seeing does not mean it didnt happen, that is how Oda has always done it, Akainu vs Aokiji, Roger vs Shiki, Shanks vs Kaido, Big Mom vs Kaido, 10 hours of Luffy vs Katakuri and Cracker, Doflamingo vs Luffy and many other fights where we barely saw some hits given.

And due the circustance, it is not a matter of opinions if he was knocked or not, it is a "MUST" otherwise P1 would had destroy everything and that was Sanji's purpose.
 
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