Character Discussion Loki’s attacks...

[Djordje]

- Direct Acoc hit to the head of Kinemon and failing to kill him
- Law tanking hybrid Kaido thunder bagua
- Luffy tanking dozens of his acoc attack
- Big Mom fighting him for 3 daya without having a scratch ( Is Kaido even capable of hurting her physically )

Dude Kaido AP is trash its his weakest stat overall.

Roger and Garp haki mass attack
Shanks one shotting Kid
Gaban cutting adam tree branches and Imu

All of this attacks shit on everything Kaido has shown

Alos beating Loki gave to HK Harald is more impressive feat than anything Kaido ever did.

 

[M.O]

Look at Loki's attack on Harald!

Now look at Loki's attack in the last chapter.

Did you see the difference?

One was a strike exploding with Conqueror's Haki that vaporized Harald; the second was simply a strike with concentrated energy, without Conqueror's Haki.

It's a hassle having to explain the basics when the manga is already nearly 1,200 chapters in.
Worst of all is trying to compare an attack from Loki or Imu to an attack from Kaido.

Loki simply killed his father—a man who fought on equal footing against Xebec in his prime, something even a younger Shanks and Gaban couldn't manage.

The gap between Loki and Kaido is so absurd; people are comparing Loki's attacks in his base form—the guy is such a beast that he hasn't even used his hybrid form yet.

And then they claim Imu did nothing against Luffy's Gear 5.

As long as Luffy gets a power-up during this fight and Loki is in his hybrid form, this battle is far from over.

Loki >>> Prime Xebec = Prime Harald >>> Prime Roger = Prime Garp = Prime Whitebeard >>> Kaido = Big Mom.

Loki has yet to reveal his hybrid form, and Imu will likely ramp up his power significantly; the fight is only just getting serious—we haven't even reached the point where everyone is fighting at their absolute peak.

The mere fact that Imu left the castle shows that Nidhogg and Nika are far greater threats than Kaido.
Now I understand why Big Mom said that if she secured an alliance with Loki, she would wipe out any Yonko—something she never said when she allied with Kaido.

 

[Blax Blah]

Look at Loki's attack on Harald!

Now look at Loki's attack in the last chapter.

Did you see the difference?

One was a strike exploding with Conqueror's Haki that vaporized Harald; the second was simply a strike with concentrated energy, without Conqueror's Haki.

It's a hassle having to explain the basics when the manga is already nearly 1,200 chapters in.
Worst of all is trying to compare an attack from Loki or Imu to an attack from Kaido.

Loki simply killed his father—a man who fought on equal footing against Xebec in his prime, something even a younger Shanks and Gaban couldn't manage.

The gap between Loki and Kaido is so absurd; people are comparing Loki's attacks in his base form—the guy is such a beast that he hasn't even used his hybrid form yet.

And then they claim Imu did nothing against Luffy's Gear 5.

As long as Luffy gets a power-up during this fight and Loki is in his hybrid form, this battle is far from over.

Loki >>> Prime Xebec = Prime Harald >>> Prime Roger = Prime Garp = Prime Whitebeard >>> Kaido = Big Mom.

Loki has yet to reveal his hybrid form, and Imu will likely ramp up his power significantly; the fight is only just getting serious—we haven't even reached the point where everyone is fighting at their absolute peak.

The mere fact that Imu left the castle shows that Nidhogg and Nika are far greater threats than Kaido.
Now I understand why Big Mom said that if she secured an alliance with Loki, she would wipe out any Yonko—something she never said when she allied with Kaido.

Knights' heart is their Achilles' heel

Loki hit him in the heart

Plus Harald was letting him strike him

 

[HeroesNZ]

Kaido damaged Gear 5 with Haki numb nuts lmfao. Loki wasn’t using any Haki when Luffy jumped onto the attack that blitzed Imu and shattered his shield.

There's clearly black lightning when Loki hit Luffy, bro's eyes don't work 🥀

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[M.O]

Knights' heart is their Achilles' heel

Loki hit him in the heart

Plus Harald was letting him strike him

So far, Loki is the only one who has killed a Holy Knight.
Regarding your second point, Harald only took that hit after being obliterated by Hybrid Loki and managing to regain control of his movements using his mind—a feat neither Shanks nor Gaban had achieved.
There is also the fact that Imu referred to Harald as his strongest Holy Knight and was incredulous that there could be someone stronger than Harald in Elbaf.

 

[Djordje]

There's clearly black lightning when Loki hit Luffy, bro's eyes don't work 🥀

Spoiler

Dude you are just pathetic at this point , when Oda wants to make it clear Acoc is used it can be easily seen and recognised, you had to zoom panel 20 times just to find single lightning trail that often is seen when Oda is drawing actual impact .

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Where is that lightning here in normal not zoomed panel ??? For attack this strong Acoc haki trails should be all over the panel.

I kinda dont care anymore about powerscaling and lost a lot of hype because of constant brakes but you are just pathetic at this point with your agenda pushing and acting like idiot.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

There's clearly black lightning when Loki hit Luffy, bro's eyes don't work 🥀

Spoiler

I’ll admit I didn’t even see that. Lol

Regardless it’s like I said, even Imu’s AdCoC failed to harm Hajrudin and Imu has the strongest CoC in the manga, Oda is not consistent with CoC lol.

 

[Blax Blah]

So far, Loki is the only one who has killed a Holy Knight.
Regarding your second point, Harald only took that hit after being obliterated by Hybrid Loki and managing to regain control of his movements using his mind—a feat neither Shanks nor Gaban had achieved.
There is also the fact that Imu referred to Harald as his strongest Holy Knight and was incredulous that there could be someone stronger than Harald in Elbaf.

Cool so what if Sommers and Killingham die by Zoro and Sanji?

That's the setup

 

[HeroesNZ]

Dude you are just pathetic at this point , when Oda wants to make it clear Acoc is used it can be easily seen and recognised, you had to zoom panel 20 times just to find single lightning trail that often is seen when Oda is drawing actual impact .

Spoiler

Where is that lightning here in normal not zoomed panel ??? For attack this strong Acoc haki trails should be all over the panel.

I kinda dont care anymore about powerscaling and lost a lot of hype because of constant brakes but you are just pathetic at this point with your agenda pushing and acting like idiot.

"There's no black lightning so Loki wasn't using ACoC"
*Shows panel with black lightning*
"Ermm there's not enough black lightning so Loki wasn't using ACoC"

Yeah argue with yourself buddy 💀 Tired of haki scholars moving the goalposts

 

[Djordje]

"There's no black lightning so Loki wasn't using ACoC"
*Shows panel with black lightning*
"Ermm there's not enough black lightning so Loki wasn't using ACoC"

Yeah argue with yourself buddy 💀 Tired of haki scholars moving the goalposts

In entire manga there are plenty of panels where black lightning appears when simple impact is made , yet that does not make it acoc.

As far as I know Acoc lightning coating appears also before impact (for example it can be seen on Garp or Koby fist before impacy or on sword of user , WB naginata or on Kaido kanabo and even on Loki hammer).

We have actual panel of Loki charging up his attack , so where is actual black lightning in that panel smartass ???

 

[Goofball_Your_Nika]

It's over. Kaido is simply the most brutal and insane guy in the manga.

Luffy was embedded in the Adam Tree. What are you even talking about?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Why tf you lying bum

That attack did nothing to Luffy and he instantly bitched kaido right after

“LeT Go Of Me”

Bum ass dude got bitched and couldn’t get Luffys grip off him 🤣🤣🤣

It's ironic for Sasaki to downplay (base) Loki's AP because G5 Luffy took one swing where he could ignore the elemental damage and it is questionable Loki even used aCOC (but if he really wants to argue aCOC doesn't have to be visible he can do it, but it might end up backfiring for his agenda ) when Luffy literally allowed Kaido to hit him in the back of the head to flex his G5 abilities, followed by Kaido hitting him in the head a second time and Luffy immediately bouncing back

And no discussion here, Kaido was undeniably using aCOC lol.

 

[Goofball_Your_Nika]

It's ironic for Sasaki to downplay (base) Loki's AP because G5 Luffy took one swing where he could ignore the elemental damage and it is questionable Loki even used aCOC (but if he really wants to argue aCOC doesn't have to be visible he can do it, but it might end up backfiring for his agenda ) when Luffy literally allowed Kaido to hit him in the back of the head to flex his G5 abilities, followed by Kaido hitting him in the head a second time and Luffy immediately bouncing back

And no discussion here, Kaido was undeniably using aCOC lol.

Man, I forgot about these moments lol

No way I reread this dogshit fight

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Man, I forgot about these moments lol

No way I reread this dogshit fight

The only reason why Kaido the powercreeped still gets wanked is because most people forgot that trash fight, allowing his fans to cherrypick a few moments and spam them to make the One Piss fanbase forget base Luffy was already matching his ass ( a fact acknowledged by the man himself)

Luffy was basically testing and learning G5 abilities against Kaido as shown by him literally letting Kaido hit him or bouncing around letting a Kaido on the ground recover.

current Luffy vs Kekdo would be a massacre as Luffy is now much better at using G4 (he can now use mini version to preserve stamina) and he's not in the discovery phase of G5 anymore.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Kaido damaged Gear 5 with Haki numb nuts lmfao. Loki wasn’t using any Haki when Luffy jumped onto the attack that blitzed Imu and shattered his shield.

Why tf wouldn't Loki use Haki lmaoooo?

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

The only reason why Kaido the powercreeped still gets wanked is because most people forgot that trash fight, allowing his fans to cherrypick a few moments and spam them to make the One Piss fanbase forget base Luffy was already matching his ass ( a fact acknowledged by the man himself)

Luffy was basically testing and learning G5 abilities against Kaido as shown by him literally letting Kaido hit him or bouncing around letting a Kaido on the ground recover.

current Luffy vs Kekdo would be a massacre as Luffy is now much better at using G4 (he can now use mini version to preserve stamina) and he's not in the discovery phase of G5 anymore.

Show us Kizalu doing any moderate damage to Gear 5?

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Why tf wouldn't Loki use Haki lmaoooo?

For the same reason he isn’t using his god tier apocalyptic world ending devil fruit that was hyped for the entire arc: Lolda

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

For the same reason he isn’t using his god tier apocalyptic world ending devil fruit that was hyped for the entire arc: Lolda

He did use his DF ? Tf are you smoking?

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

The only reason why Kaido the powercreeped still gets wanked is because most people forgot that trash fight, allowing his fans to cherrypick a few moments and spam them to make the One Piss fanbase forget base Luffy was already matching his ass ( a fact acknowledged by the man himself)

Luffy was basically testing and learning G5 abilities against Kaido as shown by him literally letting Kaido hit him or bouncing around letting a Kaido on the ground recover.

current Luffy vs Kekdo would be a massacre as Luffy is now much better at using G4 (he can now use mini version to preserve stamina) and he's not in the discovery phase of G5 anymore.

@The DevilMaster when Wiwi mentions a select group of fans cherry picking small moments in order to lie about how strong Crydo actually was, he’s talking about you and the AI that writes all your posts for you. Lol

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

He did use his DF ? Tf are you smoking?

Did he use his DF in chapter 1192? No, he did not lmfao