General & Others Luffy being the messiah kinda ruins the story

#1
I was thinking about my life earlier. Thinking about my goals and my future.

Sometimes I worry that I’m not going to be able to achieve the things I want. I remember telling myself that oh, I just need to work hard and have faith that my hard work will pay off.

For a second there, I almost wanted to think about one piece. About how Luffy similarly will achieve his goals, despite not being certain that his hard work will pay off.

But then it dawned on me that that’s a shitty comparison because Luffy is the messiah and he was always destined to do what he does because he’s god or something.

And I couldn’t help but realize how much this whole messiah shit cheapens the story.

I don’t think the concept of Nika is inherently bad. I just think it’s dumb that Luffy is unquestionably Nika. It would have been better if Luffy just had the rubber fruit or maybe even hito hito no mi: rubberman if Oda really wanted him to be a zoan. Instead of Nika being tied to Luffy’s fruit, Nika should have just been an ambiguous messiah figure in the one piece lore.

It should be the case that anyone, in theory, could be Nika. Rather than the whole thing being innately tied to Luffy.
 
#3
You haven't understood the story so its better you drop it instead of showing why you have failed education.
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Oda heard how much people loved ninja Jesus Naruto so he had to one up with pirate Jesus Nika that's even worse/glazed than Asura.
Yeah illiterate guy. Did you even read the story properly? If you had, Luffy hasn't been built like Pirate Jesus you assclown. He has been built far worse than Goku and Naruto. He had to endure too much and couldn't even use his real powers until "Now".
Illiterate losers like you that have no intelligence to understand the story come here spreading your psychosis. Either read the story properly and then come to talk or go to a psychiatrist to get over your delusion and hallucination. You are using your own imagination and confabulating the story. Nobodies asswipes talking big behind the computer. Go to school and get educated clown.
 
#4
You aren't allowed to dislike anything about One Piece, that's illegal in this fanbase.

I'll always agree with criticizing the story more than I will morons saying "PEAK FICTION" every single chapter.

Though this is just a shounen, the main character being the Chosen One should be expected, why else would he be the main character? I don't think it ruins anything, its pretty much a staple in shounen but I do think it was handled a bit iffy.
 

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#7
I was thinking about my life earlier. Thinking about my goals and my future.

Sometimes I worry that I’m not going to be able to achieve the things I want. I remember telling myself that oh, I just need to work hard and have faith that my hard work will pay off.

For a second there, I almost wanted to think about one piece. About how Luffy similarly will achieve his goals, despite not being certain that his hard work will pay off.

But then it dawned on me that that’s a shitty comparison because Luffy is the messiah and he was always destined to do what he does because he’s god or something.

And I couldn’t help but realize how much this whole messiah shit cheapens the story.

I don’t think the concept of Nika is inherently bad. I just think it’s dumb that Luffy is unquestionably Nika. It would have been better if Luffy just had the rubber fruit or maybe even hito hito no mi: rubberman if Oda really wanted him to be a zoan. Instead of Nika being tied to Luffy’s fruit, Nika should have just been an ambiguous messiah figure in the one piece lore.

It should be the case that anyone, in theory, could be Nika. Rather than the whole thing being innately tied to Luffy.
But why?

Right from the beginning we knew One piece will revolve around the theme of "inherited will". It became more clear with "Will of D" and MC being a D. himself.

Who else would have inherited the will of Nika if not MC?

And, being a shonen manga he was destined to achieve everything anyway.


And, you have to understand one more thing - Luffy himself isn't aware that he's destined to become pirate king or greatness. He himself isn't aware that he inherited the will of Nika - the Sun God.


His actions were guided by his own determination and desires. Yes, there is element of luck and you can even argue his destiny is pre -determined but is Luffy aware of it? Nope
 
#8
luffy literally let’s it b known his name when asked who he is just like w emeth luffy doesn’t even know joyboy let alone nika he’s his own person tht so happened to get the fruit passed on to him
 
#9
You haven't understood the story so its better you drop it instead of showing why you have failed education.
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Yeah illiterate guy. Did you even read the story properly? If you had, Luffy hasn't been built like Pirate Jesus you assclown. He has been built far worse than Goku and Naruto. He had to endure too much and couldn't even use his real powers until "Now".
Illiterate losers like you that have no intelligence to understand the story come here spreading your psychosis. Either read the story properly and then come to talk or go to a psychiatrist to get over your delusion and hallucination. You are using your own imagination and confabulating the story. Nobodies asswipes talking big behind the computer. Go to school and get educated clown.
You are not a paragraph guy you are a "Godfy negs your fave!" Guy
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#10
It doesn't cheapen the story at all, Luffy is him, I truly cannot wait to see the level of cope you shit out during Elbaf, where even the current Luffy wank will seem like downplay in comparison.
 
#11
You haven't understood the story so its better you drop it instead of showing why you have failed education.
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Yeah illiterate guy. Did you even read the story properly? If you had, Luffy hasn't been built like Pirate Jesus you assclown. He has been built far worse than Goku and Naruto. He had to endure too much and couldn't even use his real powers until "Now".
Illiterate losers like you that have no intelligence to understand the story come here spreading your psychosis. Either read the story properly and then come to talk or go to a psychiatrist to get over your delusion and hallucination. You are using your own imagination and confabulating the story. Nobodies asswipes talking big behind the computer. Go to school and get educated clown.
bro,you need to chill out.
 
#12
You haven't understood the story so its better you drop it instead of showing why you have failed education.
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Yeah illiterate guy. Did you even read the story properly? If you had, Luffy hasn't been built like Pirate Jesus you assclown. He has been built far worse than Goku and Naruto. He had to endure too much and couldn't even use his real powers until "Now".
Illiterate losers like you that have no intelligence to understand the story come here spreading your psychosis. Either read the story properly and then come to talk or go to a psychiatrist to get over your delusion and hallucination. You are using your own imagination and confabulating the story. Nobodies asswipes talking big behind the computer. Go to school and get educated clown.
 
#17
I will be the happiest if Luffy has to be the One piece Jesus. Luffy has the will, power and the tenacity to be the Messiah this world needs.

Remember Fortune, Fate and Fandom always looks upon the best person. Godfy is the best among the rest.
 
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#20
I really really really hate the Nika / Jesus / Sun God / Messiah / Chosen One shit

but what can we do?

Japanese people eat it up and to Oda defenders, he can't do anything wrong

so yeah
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He had to endure too much and couldn't even use his real powers until "Now".
That's literally Naruto

he had to endure a bunch of shit for being born with the Nine Tails inside him

and he couldn't even use his power, because he couldn't control it and it would trie to hurt the people around him

until the very end of the story, after a lot of training and struggle, that he was able to control it
 
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