General & Others Luffy is LOSING what makes him special with the whole alliance crap
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The idea of Luffy finding an allies is not bad. It also depends on how you write it. For instance, someone said that the rivalry between Luffy, Kidd, and Law is not that interesting, and funny which I agree.
Contrast it with these characters
Luffy is a bit like Captain America in the Winter Soldier. As a character, he never really changes... Its his way of thinking that changes people around him including his friend/enemy like Smoker.
Contrast it with these characters
Luffy is a bit like Captain America in the Winter Soldier. As a character, he never really changes... Its his way of thinking that changes people around him including his friend/enemy like Smoker.
I'm not claiming that gear 5th exists (even though I'm sure it does exist) Luffy can create gear 5th in few hours like he did it with gear 2th, and we don't even know what advanced CoC haki is capable of, so I'm not going dismiss its factor. If Luffy can awaken his DF that would make him fully Admiral level since he already has advanced CoO&CoA, and we Know that Admirals can push Yonko to mid/high diff before they get defeated by them, and if Luffy can push Yonko to mid or even high diff then he for sure can win him. Luffy couldn't even push Katakuri to mid diff 70% of the fight but eventually he got out of the fight as the winner, people do indeed forget that Luffy is the, THE main character and with that he has privileges that the others don't. If Luffy doesn't get at least another power up in this arc then he will get out of this arc as a YC1+ with better endurance, and I can't physically imagine how in the hell will YC1+ defeat Blackbeard who will be above Yonko and can take away Luffy's DF which means that Luffy will not be able to use his gears against him. It's much easier for me to imagine and except Luffy defeating Kaido in 1v1 rather than YC1+ Luffy defeating Blackbeard who will be above Yonko, that's just doesn't make sense to me whatsoever.
By the end of the fight it will be a 1v1 between Luffy and Kaido, there is a reason Oda put this myth behind Kaido, the same he did with Katakuri but Luffy isn't soloing the strongest creature in the world this Arc. It just won't happen, as it shouldn't, this is the Arc that will solidify Luffy's place as the 5th Emperor.
We should definitely expect more 1v1 fights after Wano since the whole alliance will end.
We should definitely expect more 1v1 fights after Wano since the whole alliance will end.
Its still a punch. Oda wasn't talking about Haki.luffy could already do CoA then. Kaido head is getting chopped off. Like its been foreshadowed a million times. Zoro isn't leaving Wano has strong has Mihawk. Your delusional, Zoro needs at least 1 more arc before that and even then Zoro going to surpass his limit to get to mihawk level.
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Ofen never beat Kaido. Stop reading 2 piece.
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It's not about character development but rather Luffy's personal worth, it's about perfect balance between Luffy achieving something because ha has faith in his frends and Luffy achieving something because his friends have faith in Luffy. Luffy always relies in his frends in every situation and there's been moments when Luffy got helped in fighting by his friends, but there are moments when his frends look up to him as a captain as a someone who is responsible for their lifes and needs to have the strength to protect them, it's about Luffy having what it takes to become the Pirate King vs Luffy becoming the Pirate King because he was made the one by his friends. Like when Luffy showed his frends especially Robin that he can defeat Rob Lucci and protect them, protect Robin...
Or when Nami relied on Luffy when they couldn't do anything...
And Luffy humiliated himself in WCI running form Big Mom cuz he didn't have the strength to defeat her, then he relied on Jinbe for covering their back while they were running, Pedro died because Luffy couldn't protect him.
And now, they are in Wano and their's no way to run, Sanji put his faith on Luffy when he dicided to go with them and Luffy should prove himself, the Wano people relie on Luffy, Momonoske relies on Luffy cuz he promised Momonoske that he will defeat Kiado.
The Samurais needs a real man to fallow, someone that can defeat Kaido...
Luffy alredy relied on Jinbe in WCI and now his friends relie on Luffy, if Luffy can't defeat Kaido by himself, prove his personal worth, back up his words, protect his frends, then what kind of Pirate king he is?
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Oden mid diffed Kaido by himself.
Or when Nami relied on Luffy when they couldn't do anything...
And Luffy humiliated himself in WCI running form Big Mom cuz he didn't have the strength to defeat her, then he relied on Jinbe for covering their back while they were running, Pedro died because Luffy couldn't protect him.
And now, they are in Wano and their's no way to run, Sanji put his faith on Luffy when he dicided to go with them and Luffy should prove himself, the Wano people relie on Luffy, Momonoske relies on Luffy cuz he promised Momonoske that he will defeat Kiado.
The Samurais needs a real man to fallow, someone that can defeat Kaido...
Luffy alredy relied on Jinbe in WCI and now his friends relie on Luffy, if Luffy can't defeat Kaido by himself, prove his personal worth, back up his words, protect his frends, then what kind of Pirate king he is?
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Oden mid diffed Kaido by himself.
We first shall see what happens to Big Mom this Arc, since Luffy said he would beat her after Kaido, I do believe she will be the his first 1v1. If she does somehow gets defeated in Wano 4 admirals and Blackbeard would be enough of 1v1 for Luffy for sure... And that's ignoring the Gorosei and Imu, there is plenty of fights Luffy can still have after Wano.
We are not going to have Big Mom in three arcs, that's just not happening, Oda brought up her here to get rid off Yonkos as fast as possible cuz wants to finish one piece in 5 years. But, let's say you're right and Big Mom stays alive after Wano, then how in the hell YC1+ will be able to defeat her? It's the same situation as with Kaido, if Luffy can't defeat Kaido in 1v1 why he should be able to defeat Big Mom in 1v1?
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Wtf? Could you please paraphrase because I can't understand what you mean?
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Wtf? Could you please paraphrase because I can't understand what you mean?
Because Luffy evolves after every Arc, Luffy is YC1+ now, after his 1v1 with a weakened Kaido he would definitely get to another level meaning that on his fight with Big Mom he wouldn't be stronger than her but would most definitely hold his own against her alone and should probably overcome her as he did with her son.
As I said Wano is the Arc that solidifies Luffy as the 5th Emperor, he could very well be the weakest one by that time but he will sure as hell hold his own alone against any of them.
As I said Wano is the Arc that solidifies Luffy as the 5th Emperor, he could very well be the weakest one by that time but he will sure as hell hold his own alone against any of them.