Speculations Mihawk Did Not Make The Black Cross Blade He Inherited It!!

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AlmightyGunther

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matt245 said:
He's the one that came with the theory and thus the burden of proof falls on him. You claim something first; you gotta prove your shit. Something that he didn't really do and thus, this can't even be labeled as a theory since it has 0 substantial proof. "Nicely done. Hahaha"
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Oh no this is more like a persuasive argument.

I'm persuading you to think that it's possible he inherited the sword and didn't create it himself.

This is valid. There is nothing that says otherwise.

Don't argue with me... I'm trained on how to use reasoning skills and conflict management.

And I have written a thousand essays.
 
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I don't need to prove that Mihawk didn't create the blade himself, I only have to show that there is a potential for him not doing it.

It is a fallacy to think that just because someone uses a black blade that they created it themselves. Unless it's stated, it's not proven that he did.

It is neither proven that he made it or that he didn't make it, but the fact is there is a potential for both.

Your reasoning skills are bad.
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Pringles said:
Next thread:

"Mihawk is not the world's strongest swordsman, it's just that his rivals are weak or miss an arm"
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Is that your next post? Because I certainly didn't intend to make anything like that.
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You can't deny that there is a potential for Mihawk not having created the Black Cross Blade himself. Asking me to prove that he did or didn't is ridiculous because we both know nothing in the story states either one.
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You guys seem to have an issue with black and white perspectives.

So, here you go. What I'll do is concede that it is probable that Mihawk made his own Black Cross Blade. Let's say since we can't prove either way that this constitutes a 60% probability. However, there is a 40% probability that he didn't make it because he never said he did.

There that's about as fair as I can be for you. Asking me to say he has a 100% probability of making it himself is asking too much.

Unless you can show me a panel where he said it, but I don't think you can because there isn't one.
 
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Hi Worstgen

Modern Black Sword OR Ancient Black Sword??
- Mihawk's Black Cross Blade

So, is Mihawk's Black Cross Blade a newly created Black Sword OR is it an Ancient Black Sword that Mihawk Inherited??

A new Black Sword might not have as much Haki infusion, but an old Black Sword has already had tons of elite swordsman use it and put their Haki in it.

So... Which one do you prefer Mihawk to have?

A) He created it recently and it is his own sword.
B) He Inherited it when he was young and trained by an elite group of swordsman who handed it down to him from past generations of swordsman.

CHOOSE NOW!!

My personal choice is that it's an inherited sword and that the reason why it consumes so much Haki every time someone uses it is because the elevated level of Haki Infusion used on it over generations has caused it to feed on abnormal levels of Haki that an individual person cannot achieve by themselves. In other words, it boosts the strength of a person using it, but people who are too weak to use it might die trying to do it. Similarly to Enma.
 
Novak D Jokovic

Novak D Jokovic

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AlmightyGunther said:
I don't need to prove that Mihawk didn't create the blade himself, I only have to show that there is a potential for him not doing it.

It is a fallacy to think that just because someone uses a black blade that they created it themselves. Unless it's stated, it's not proven that he did.

It is neither proven that he made it or that he didn't make it, but the fact is there is a potential for both.

Your reasoning skills are bad.
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Is that your next post? Because I certainly didn't intend to make anything like that.
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You can't deny that there is a potential for Mihawk not having created the Black Cross Blade himself. Asking me to prove that he did or didn't is ridiculous because we both know nothing in the story states either one.
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You guys seem to have an issue with black and white perspectives.

So, here you go. What I'll do is concede that it is probable that Mihawk made his own Black Cross Blade. Let's say since we can't prove either way that this constitutes a 60% probability. However, there is a 40% probability that he didn't make it because he never said he did.

There that's about as fair as I can be for you. Asking me to say he has a 100% probability of making it himself is asking too much.

Unless you can show me a panel where he said it, but I don't think you can because there isn't one.
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There is 0% possibility he didn't make it. From Wano we have learnt that swords can be turned black. Tengu said to Zoro that he may be able in the future to turn Enma to black. It would be ridiculous to learn such an information from wano to reach EoS just to find that WSS has never achieved it yet.
He got that title for a reason. Stop wasting your time really
 
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Novak D Jokovic said:
There is 0% possibility he didn't make it. From Wano we have learnt that sword can be turned black. Tengu said to Zoro that he may be able in the future to turn Enma to black. It would be ridiculous to learn such an information from wano to reach EoS just to find that WSS has never achieved it yet.
He got that title for a reason. Stop wasting your time really
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It's still possible he didn't make it, we saw Zoro wield a black sword that he didn't make.

However, it is very unlikely. Thinking that the world's strongest swordsman who knows how to use a sword and even told Zoro "if you coat your sword with haki you can turn any sword black" did not turn his own sword permanently black is delusional.
 
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Novak D Jokovic said:
There is 0% possibility he didn't make it. From Wano we have learnt that swords can be turned black. Tengu said to Zoro that he may be able in the future to turn Enma to black. It would be ridiculous to learn such an information from wano to reach EoS just to find that WSS has never achieved it yet.
He got that title for a reason. Stop wasting your time really
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This is fallacious reasoning.
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Pringles said:
It's still possible he didn't make it, we saw Zoro wield a black sword that he didn't make.

However, it is very unlikely. Thinking that the world's strongest swordsman who knows how to use a sword and even told Zoro "if you coat your sword with haki you can turn any sword black" did not turn his own sword permanently black is delusional.
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It is not delusional. He may be just reiterating what he was told by other people. Denying that is what is crazy.
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Ehh.. you guys have bad reasoning skills. Think about who I'm talking to? None of you passed high school.
 
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AlmightyGunther said:
This is fallacious reasoning.
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It is not delusional. He may be just reiterating what he was told by other people. Denying that is what is crazy.
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Ehh.. you guys have bad reasoning skills. Think about who I'm talking to? None of you passed high school.
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You have bad narrative analysis skills my friend.

You just don't come up with that conclusion when the author blatantly tells you that Mihawk is the world's strongest swordsman and is Zoro's example and pinacle.

You don't come up with that conclusion when all supreme grade blades are not black by default, including Roger's and Whitebeard's.

You don't come up with that conclusion when the only 2 black swords are Ryuma's and Mihawk's, the 2 best swordsmen in the story.

Stop projecting your lack of analytical skills on us, you clearly did not even pass primary school.
 
Novak D Jokovic

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Pringles said:
It's still possible he didn't make it, we saw Zoro wield a black sword that he didn't make.

However, it is very unlikely. Thinking that the world's strongest swordsman who knows how to use a sword and even told Zoro "if you coat your sword with haki you can turn any sword black" did not turn his own sword permanently black is delusional.
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The problem here is that not only he is spending his time for a delusional possibility but also he really thinks he is smart.
He doesn't understand that his best achievement so far is that he has make others to also spend their time for nonsense arguments
 
Artem

Artem

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AlmightyGunther said:
Hi Worstgen,

I noticed you guys are very nitpicky about this sort of thing, but I never thought Mihawk created his Black Blade. I had the distinct feeling he had inherited that sword.

So, there you go. You guys were arguing about how Mihawk made his sword black. Here is an alternative option for you. He didn't. It was already like that before he wielded it.
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And so. 1 The god of the sword made the sword black. 2. The future strongest swordsman will make the swords black (they even took away the black sword from him, so that he would do everything himself). 3 The current strongest swordsman inherited the black sword? And why do I think you're mentally retarded?
 
Pringles

Pringles

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Artem said:
And so. 1 The god of the sword made the sword black. 2. The future strongest swordsman will make the swords black (they even took away the black sword from him, so that he would do everything himself). 3 The current strongest swordsman inherited the black sword? And why do I think you're mentally retarded?
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That's basically it.

1. The god of the sword Ryuma made the sword black
2. The world's strongest swordsman achieved the pinnacle of swordsmanship and made his sword black
3. The future world's strongest swordsman will make his 3 swords black and will surpass the current WSS, they even took his "already black sword"
 
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