Powers & Abilities More Skilled Swordsman (Specifically RYOU and BOAT)
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That black blade projection is another reason why Zoro's Haki is same level as Oden's Haki in his prime because Oden in his prime was never take his Haki to a level that would make black blade and Zoro in Wano would do so.
That Haki container nonsense doesn't make sense because if there is some Haki poured into blades, Zoro would be able to damage logia opponents at all times without using Haki of his own @Celestial D. Dragon
Its obviously the fact that your armament Haki needs to be on overwhelming level, so overwhelming that once you coat your blade with Haki, it gets so much Haki, the color of your Haki remains on it.
That Haki container nonsense doesn't make sense because if there is some Haki poured into blades, Zoro would be able to damage logia opponents at all times without using Haki of his own @Celestial D. Dragon
Its obviously the fact that your armament Haki needs to be on overwhelming level, so overwhelming that once you coat your blade with Haki, it gets so much Haki, the color of your Haki remains on it.
Idk about Luffy's Haki reserves >>>> Hyou's, Katakuri has shown greater raw Haki level than Luffy, even likes of Cracker has and I doubt a trained special swordsman to whom Haki is one of the most important aspects of his training hasn't bloomed his Haki reserves to a level higher than a new world rookie. I doubt if Hyogoro used his CoA guard, Hody would be able to bite through him, that's not Haki control as Luffy was able to coat part of his body that needed to be coated, but strength of his Haki just wasn't enough.
But I agree with your overall point Haki reserves doesn't mean Haki control. But its also the fact that Zoro after his training has been able to attain his Haki control to the level that he can prevent Enma from going overboard with Haki sucking on will.
Kinnemon has ability to cut fire but then again that could just be elemental swordsmanship which has nothing to do with Ryou. But maybe Kinnemon has better control idk, we need more data on how fire cutting abilities work.
With that said, I don't necessarily think its an insult for Zoro to have less of a Haki control than Kinnemon, he is one of the most skilled Haki users in the world I would say even if his Haki reserves are average at best.
But I agree with your overall point Haki reserves doesn't mean Haki control. But its also the fact that Zoro after his training has been able to attain his Haki control to the level that he can prevent Enma from going overboard with Haki sucking on will.
Kinnemon has ability to cut fire but then again that could just be elemental swordsmanship which has nothing to do with Ryou. But maybe Kinnemon has better control idk, we need more data on how fire cutting abilities work.
With that said, I don't necessarily think its an insult for Zoro to have less of a Haki control than Kinnemon, he is one of the most skilled Haki users in the world I would say even if his Haki reserves are average at best.
I think that Ryou or Haki mastery can evaluate by how much aspect you mastered. For example Luffy and Zoro have mastered more aspect than Kinemon:
-Kinemon : Koka, deflection
-Luffy => invisible Haki, koka, koka with his fruit (which lead to G4 and the flame pattern) déflection, pénétration
-Zoro: Invisible haki, koka, Koka with flame pattern out of the sword, deflection
We do not know yet exact what allow one to take Enma but it seems to be link to Ryou mastery too. If it is the case Zoro will be far above Kinemon.
Cutting fire or steel are just a part of deflection imo
-Kinemon : Koka, deflection
-Luffy => invisible Haki, koka, koka with his fruit (which lead to G4 and the flame pattern) déflection, pénétration
-Zoro: Invisible haki, koka, Koka with flame pattern out of the sword, deflection
We do not know yet exact what allow one to take Enma but it seems to be link to Ryou mastery too. If it is the case Zoro will be far above Kinemon.
Cutting fire or steel are just a part of deflection imo
he doesnt show any skill in haki here
or advanced technique
his haki is just strong enough to withstand it
and kinemon clearly isnt.
People sleep on how insane this feat really is. This is cliff of Wano country, we only get to see side view but the length of cliff in insane
Right but he shows his control of Haki here, being able to cut a kilometer sized hill with his just his Haki yet taking no damage to his arm. Normally performing a feat this big would require a serious named attack like 1080 pound canon from Zoro but post training he can do it sitting down, just ordering Enma
People sleep on how insane this feat really is. This is cliff of Wano country, we only get to see side view but the length of cliff in insane
People sleep on how insane this feat really is. This is cliff of Wano country, we only get to see side view but the length of cliff in insane
he cut pica to bits with nameless attacks
cut the cliff in punk hazard with a swing before he fell asleep
cutting the cliff isnt an increase in ap. whats impressive is the control he has gained that he didnt have before.
Swordsmen Ryou seems to be mainly focused on two things
1-Massive destruction through CoA showed by Roger and Zoro. Maybe Mihawk's Iceberg slash was also him flexing his Ryou though I think it was just the force behind Mihawk's swing
2-Cut extremely durable objects like that Punk Hazard Dragon, Kaido, Big Mom etc showed by Scabbards, Oden, Zoro etc. Though obviously Mihawk and Roger should be able to be masters of this application as well.
1-Massive destruction through CoA showed by Roger and Zoro. Maybe Mihawk's Iceberg slash was also him flexing his Ryou though I think it was just the force behind Mihawk's swing
2-Cut extremely durable objects like that Punk Hazard Dragon, Kaido, Big Mom etc showed by Scabbards, Oden, Zoro etc. Though obviously Mihawk and Roger should be able to be masters of this application as well.
The vertical slash was a nameless attack but it was far from his casual attack and he literally swung his sword really hard to do that. Against Pica he cut a mountain attempting to cut a mountain.
In Wano he cut a mountain sized cliff attempting to cut a tree because his Haki leak is that lethal. Idk where the Haki control bullshit is coming from.
Zoro's raw Haki reserves are so strong that Haki leaking out of his blades can cut clifs. Now if Zoro puts in most of his physical strength that he did when cutting pica, and leaks Haki on top of it, he probably can cut an entire country like Dressrosa in half.
This guy does a good job
In Wano he cut a mountain sized cliff attempting to cut a tree because his Haki leak is that lethal. Idk where the Haki control bullshit is coming from.
Zoro's raw Haki reserves are so strong that Haki leaking out of his blades can cut clifs. Now if Zoro puts in most of his physical strength that he did when cutting pica, and leaks Haki on top of it, he probably can cut an entire country like Dressrosa in half.
This guy does a good job
I think there is an elemental factor to it as well. Outside of Foxfire Kinemon, we also have Shiryu of the Wind. We have two Swordsman with Elemental themes to their name. It's also interesting to note that Zoro himself can create Wind based attacks, so pitting him up against someone who has a direct counter to his moveset (Shiryu being capable of cutting through wind) is something I see Oda doing.
The viz translation for Zoro in wano wasnt him cutting a cliff, but a coastline. That's a much bigger impact than cutting just a cliff IMO
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