Powers & Abilities More Skilled Swordsman (Specifically RYOU and BOAT)

[HA001]

I think there is an elemental factor to it as well. Outside of Foxfire Kinemon, we also have Shiryu of the Wind. We have two Swordsman with Elemental themes to their name. It's also interesting to note that Zoro himself can create Wind based attacks, so pitting him up against someone who has a direct counter to his moveset (Shiryu being capable of cutting through wind) is something I see Oda doing.

Rain ???
And his sword is called thunderstorm

And his cuts look like lightening

 

[ShishioIsBack]

I think there is an elemental factor to it as well. Outside of Foxfire Kinemon, we also have Shiryu of the Wind. We have two Swordsman with Elemental themes to their name. It's also interesting to note that Zoro himself can create Wind based attacks, so pitting him up against someone who has a direct counter to his moveset (Shiryu being capable of cutting through wind) is something I see Oda doing.

Its Shiryu of the rain though.

Tatsumaki is just Zoro's physical strength, he swings his sword so hard, a twister generates. In EB, Zoro had to put extra momentum by spinning himself but he has gotten so much stronger over the years, he can make much bigger twisters with minimal movement.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Rain ???
And his sword is called thunderstorm

And his cuts look like lightening

Its Shiryu of the rain though.

Tatsumaki is just Zoro's physical strength, he swings his sword so hard, a twister generates. In EB, Zoro had to put extra momentum by spinning himself but he has gotten so much stronger over the years, he can make much bigger twisters with minimal movement.

Oh yeah... Not sure where the fuck I got Wind from... Probably from reading/Watching too many Manga/Anime.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Oh yeah... Not sure where the fuck I got Wind from... Probably from reading/Watching too many Manga/Anime.

Maybe he can cut rain/water idk

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Maybe he can cut rain/water idk

That would be a pretty epic scene for when the Straw Hats face off against the Blackbeard Pirates. Blackbeard creates a massive Tsunami that's about to engulf the Island they are on, and Shiryu steps in and cuts it up, which then turns it into rain.

 

[Zenos7]

Oh yeah... Not sure where the fuck I got Wind from... Probably from reading/Watching too many Manga/Anime.

there is also that mcguy dude with an electric sword or something.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

there is also that mcguy dude with an electric sword or something.

What do you guys think about Hakuba @Celestial D. Dragon
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Is that just some delusion that boosts him or a demonic entity like Ashura?

 

[trav]

zoro doesnt tame enma because he is more skilled with ryou fyi
oden tamed it at a very young age and its def not cause he was skilled with ryou at that age than kinemon now
its because his ryou/willpower was strong enough to.

Oden was stronger than adults as a kid. hes a prodigy.
yes, he absolutely did tame Enma because his ryou mastery was great.
same goes for Zoro.

Zoro got the same Wano training through Koshiro and his will and drive is superior.

additionally Zoro received training from the WSS.
Zoros is more skilled than Kinemon.

 

[Guymieux]

Zoro also has made fire with a slash . That’s how he beat ryumma . People love to forget that

 

[Ali]

I think Zoro has more potential to learn more skills than kinemon ...
Imagine if kinemon skill is 7, zoro's 6 ... but kinemon gonna still be at 7 while zoro can go 8 or 9 ...
I guess it's zoro for me, can't see it otherwise.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Ryou is the only thing that can explain cutting fire without Oda pulling out some brand new ability that hasn't been alluded to within the series whatsoever.

No the sword itself having that ability can explain it

 

[ShishioIsBack]

he has cut more while casually swinging other blades
their suprise has to do with the fact that he cut a cliff rather than cutting a tree. if he really wanted to cut a cliff, he would do so without enma.

That first cliff isn't even 50 meters lol
The cliff of Wano is in kilometers range, you can't even see Zoro in that Wano cliff cut

Not to mention effort he put in was tree cutting effort

 

[bennbeckman]

That first cliff isn't even 50 meters lol
The cliff of Wano is in kilometers range, you can't even see Zoro in that Wano cliff cut

Not to mention effort he put in was tree cutting effort

According to Sanji that was not a cliff he cut in Wano, but a Coastline, so it gives me reason to believe that was much bigger than Pica's Golem

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

According to Sanji that was not a cliff he cut in Wano, but a Coastline, so it gives me reason to believe that was much bigger than Pica's Golem

There was only two trees on that Coastline.... Pica had dozens of houses lined up on his arm alone. The Coastline might have been the size of his fist, but that's it.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

There was only two trees on that Coastline.... Pica had dozens of houses lined up on his arm alone. The Coastline might have been the size of his fist, but that's it.

Those Japanese pine trees grow 150 to 300 meters in range
Also the fact that we only saw side view of the coast, look at map of Wano, the length of coast should he around a kilometer or two.

Side view seems around 300 meters depending on size of those pine trees

 

[CbShadow]

I have to give it to you Zoro. There's still a lot we don't know understand about Ryuo, Boat, black blade, and cutting fire. I believe the ability to cut fire is related to ryuo.

 

[bennbeckman]

@Charlotte Horchata what are your thoughts?

 

[Geo]

The one who is able to shoot haki through his sword is the one who is more skilled in haki because that is the highest level of haki skill as proved by Roger and WB.

Can Kinemon do that? No
Can Zoro do that? Yes