My Problem with femminist media types

[AL sama]

No. Just like wannabe terrorist are not inherently evil. They are dangerous not by essence but because of their structure in society.

Incels must be stopped just like harasser must be stopped. Now, there is multiple ways to do that, the hard way : censorship and Ban. Or the soft way : what I'm trying to do here by giving ressources to change.

 

[Logiko]

I did and I am not finding any. Care to enlighten us if you found something that we can't?

Go talk to any female feminist you find on the internet working in construction, I'm sure they will be at your service. I'm not an expert, so...

Look better.

 

[Roo]

No. Just like wannabe terrorist are not inherently evil. They are dangerous not by essence but because of their structure in society.

Incels must be stopped just like harasser must be stopped. Now, there is multiple ways to do that, the hard way : censorship and Ban. Or the soft way : what I'm trying to do here by giving ressources to change.

They are still suffering. Most incels are not happy people. We can agree that those who are actively trying to harm people need to be stopped but dehumanizing them is childish

 

[Logiko]

Yeah .. I'm not surprised by this.. you don't look like the type of "I'm a full on deconstructed" kinda guy

 

[Natalija]

I don't see no women protesting for equal representation of women in plumbing jobs, industrials works, carpenters, roofers, truck drivers, and other back-breaking works. I don't see no woman talking about why only women are allowed to leave the country when war erupted in Ukraine.

The men who were allowed to leave weren't protesting either. No one wants to be in a war, regardless of sex and it's odd you're comparing that to human rights.

 

[Logiko]

They are still suffering. Most incels are not happy people. We can agree that those who are actively trying to harm people need to be stopped but dehumanizing them is childish

Priority first.

First we stop them. Then we listen.

Women first.

 

[AL sama]

Go talk to any female feminist you find on the internet working in construction, I'm sure they will be at your service. I'm not an expert, so...

Look better.

if you're no expert then why are you talking big??

don't look better

 

[Roo]

Priority first.

First we stop them. Then we listen.

Women first.

We can stop them and also understand why they are the way the are. Dehumanizing them just breeds more resentment from both parties. It's not a zero sum game

 

[Midnight Delight]

The men who were allowed to leave weren't protesting either. No one wants to be in a war, regardless of sex and it's odd you're comparing that to human rights.

Men who were allowed to leave were mostly kids and disabled people who would die in a war

 

[Gol D. Roger]

The men who were allowed to leave weren't protesting either. No one wants to be in a war, regardless of sex and it's odd you're comparing that to human rights.

Well, men don't want equal representation everywhere regardless of the circumstances. I know women don't want it too. The kid needs to understand that.

 

[Peroroncino]

The men who were allowed to leave weren't protesting either. No one wants to be in a war, regardless of sex and it's odd you're comparing that to human rights.

 

[Adam 🍎]

I wonder which gender can leave first in case of emergency

 

[Natalija]

Men who were allowed to leave were mostly kids and disabled people who would die in a war

When we had war over here, men were looking for the tiniest details to avoid being called. Medical, running away etc. No one wants to be forced into going and dying.

As for "disabled", it can also be tiny things like bad vision. Judging by our immigrants who were smart enough to flee.

 

[Natalija]

Make no mistake, they are leaving. You're too far to know, but I get to meet them

Both Ukrainians and Russians who flee.

 

[Adam 🍎]

When we had war over here, men were looking for the tiniest details to avoid being called. Medical, running away etc. No one wants to be forced into going and dying.

As for "disabled", it can also be tiny things like bad vision. Judging by our immigrants who were smart enough to flee.

Well no one wants to go to war obv but it is apparent that men are almost always the only ones drafted for it.

And not just in modern times, through history too

 

[Natalija]

Well no one wants to go to war obv but it is apparent that men are almost always the only ones drafted for it.

And not just in morder times, through history too

Did I at any point say they weren't?

 

[Peroroncino]

Make no mistake, they are leaving. You're too far to know, but I get to meet them

Both Ukrainians and Russians who flee.

we are to take your word for it over what we see on TV? Ukraine banned their men from leaving except those too weak,old or young to fight. But because a tiny percentage of men left we are to ignore the massive ammount of women who left of their own volition?

 

[Adam 🍎]

Did I at any point say they weren't?

Well the argument you said is how is that compared to human rights.

Well how is man's life in this case more/less valuable to be sent off to his death than a womans?

 

[Gol D. Roger]

When we had war over here, men were looking for the tiniest details to avoid being called. Medical, running away etc. No one wants to be forced into going and dying.

As for "disabled", it can also be tiny things like bad vision. Judging by our immigrants who were smart enough to flee.

It's true no one wishes to be at war. Women are allowed to leave while men aren't; that's anti-equality by any standards, which means the world doesn't see us equally because we can't be equal everywhere.

 

[Natalija]

we are to take your word for it over what we see on TV? Ukraine banned from men leaving except those too weak,old or young to fight. But because a tiny percentage of men left we are to ignore the massive ammount of women who left of their own volition?

Lol what? Women are not supposed to fight in the first place?!

The point is no one who finds a way to leave will protest, male or female.