Chapter Discussion My Takes From 1094

#1
Great chapter

The main point being Saturn's reveal. We get no DF name but most assume that it is at least an awakened Zoan, whether it's mythical or else is not yet confirmed. While the entrance is epic, I personally rate Kaido's intro much higher, as well as Kaido's design looks far more intimidating than Saturn's. Not to mention that he immediately gets stabbed in his intro chapter. And for his size the arms look like sticks.

The initial leaks made it seem like Saturn's presence alone made low level marines heads explode but the scans show that Saturn actually did it on purpose. Which makes no sense like even if they are low level marines they will find it how Saturn looks through their superiors anyway so what's the point. Gets stabbed by Bonney with no haki, thats a bad look for Saturn atm.

Bonney looked better, she may not be the weakest SN now. VP, Bonney, Sanji, Franky and Atlas against Saturn makes it look like somebody is gonna get hypetooled.

On to the controversial things, first usage of ACoC by either Luffy or Zoro is shown in the arc. Kizaru should get up from the hit, its the first real damage I think that he has taken so far. The thing though is that Kizaru has not shown Logia awakening yet and the fight seems to have come to a close in this chapter. The dialogue further clarifies that neither were going all out, the focus for Kizaru was on killing VP and Luffy to stop him from doing so. Neither were fighting the other to kill/defeat.

Zoro vs Lucci also seems to be the same, Lucci wants to kill and Zoro is just protecting/stalling. Last chapter made it seem like Zoro was going to get serious now but now he is shown not using Santoryu and still no bandanna.

Not really a fan of Luffy reaching his limit this early with Kizaru only taking one hit. Why don't other awakened users are shown with this type of time limit and the expiration resulting in Luffy turning into an old man.
 
#5
I don't understand why everyone keeps bringing this up as if it's dehype for Saturn lol. This look doesn't even have a 0.001% bit of concern, it's more like a father getting disappointed that his newborn baby vomited all over him.

Its not about the stab or how deadly it is, it is more of how he got jumped. The dude literally jumped in a group of enemies and then got attacked. You generally expect top tiers (which Saturn is assumed to be) to be able to dodge such attacks, his CoO should not be that bad.

Tbf though all the hype and dehype moments when characters are introduced is based solely on plot and upto Oda's whims.
 
#6
Its not about the stab or how deadly it is, it is more of how he got jumped. The dude literally jumped in a group of enemies and then got attacked. You generally expect top tiers (which Saturn is assumed to be) to be able to dodge such attacks, his CoO should not be that bad.

Tbf though all the hype and dehype moments when characters are introduced is based solely on plot and upto Oda's whims.
do you dodge a mosquito if its going to land on you? nah you just swat it away when you notice it
 
#7
Its not about the stab or how deadly it is, it is more of how he got jumped. The dude literally jumped in a group of enemies and then got attacked. You generally expect top tiers (which Saturn is assumed to be) to be able to dodge such attacks, his CoO should not be that bad.
What if he doesn't want to dodge and instead has instant regen or something that nullifies damage? That seems likely considering his size and the fact that he's the warrior god of science/defense.

Tbf though all the hype and dehype moments when characters are introduced is based solely on plot and upto Oda's whims.
Exactly, Oda isn't going to powerscale every frame of the story.
 
#8
do you dodge a mosquito if its going to land on you? nah you just swat it away when you notice it
Thats one way of looking at it, though still seems like an anti feat.
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What if he doesn't want to dodge and instead has instant regen or something that nullifies damage? That seems likely considering his size and the fact that he's the warrior god of science/defense.



Exactly, Oda isn't going to powerscale every frame of the story.
But its good for agendas. I was just trying to bring some people down who were saying things like Gorosei > Yonko/Admirals. The guys have literally zero feats atm. Exploding a low level marines head is not as impressive as many Shanks feats which is then followed by getting stabbed from Bonney.
 
#9
The spoilers made Saturn more intimidating than Kaido, when I read heads was popping.

I see Saturn and the rest of the gorosei equal fighting force to admirals, yonkos, and warlords.

luffy time limit is probably permanent, but oda should be more clear if luffy is near his limit
 
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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#10
It is a great chapter indeed. Godfy top 1 failing against casual Kizaru and Saturn moving his ass finally.
Everything proceeds as I have foreseen. What could I ask more? :catlewd:
I dont think Saturn intentionally blew the Marine's head but maybe I am wrong about it, who knows...

Yes, we have both confirmation that he is Awakened and that he is Mythical type as well, even without Oda spelling it out.
Luffy failing and gassing out was the most predictable thing ever, betting against the MC always pays off.
Somehow people still didnt understand this and then wonder how I end up right, time and time again... :blobevil:

Of course Kizaru will be back, he hasnt used a single named move aside from Yasakani no Magatama.
That is because he was never Luffy's opponent to beat but MC-bros had to sabotage themselves with >Zoro aint beating Admiral before Luffy crap arguments... With Luffy being a dead weight again, Zoro needs to drop Lucci and shift to where his strength is actually needed.

Kaido's intro is indeed far better than Saturn's. Also, judging by his initial look, if this is Saturn's hybrid form, he has to be a hax-based fighter. There is no way this huge ass spider is an excellent CQC fighter. This guy looks like an upgrade over Black Maria... So, we might get some fire-based attacks and lots of spider webs that tangle the opponents up... Basically a Challenge of the String v2.0...

And since Zoro can cut through all of those low tier moves, he will unlikely engage Saturn and will take over Kizaru fight.
Luffy, once the juice is refilled, will take on Saturn with the others. Among the others, Saturn has plenty of hype tools but Sanjino might play a big role, paralleling Satori's defeat, he may get the final hit while Luffy grabs and holds him tight.
 
#12
Its not about the stab or how deadly it is, it is more of how he got jumped. The dude literally jumped in a group of enemies and then got attacked. You generally expect top tiers (which Saturn is assumed to be) to be able to dodge such attacks, his CoO should not be that bad.

Tbf though all the hype and dehype moments when characters are introduced is based solely on plot and upto Oda's whims.
Could be his powers involve blood or some level of invulnerability. I would wait to see
 
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