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Who would win this year (2024/25) ?

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I refuse to the believe the 76ers goin actually blown a 3-0 and lose the series there no way we gon witness that for the first time in history nick nurse will be the greatest coach ever and all the players on the raptors will be in the hall of fame :milaugh:I think it rigged for the 76ers to go game 7 beat the raptors and then people goin say Philly have no shot to beat Miami then they win game 1 or 2 in Miami :suresure:it the perfect setup Im not falling for it nba
 
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Dragomir

Never thought a day in my life I'd see the Nets get swept in any round, let alone the first. Not gonna lie, it feels good to see them lose like that. The supposed best offensive duo of all time just like that got cleaned up. That was an amazing series to watch. Super competitive and tight from start to finish. Wasn't an easy sweep by any means but the Celtics just proved that they were the better team each and every night.

Also, ain't no way the Sixers bouta blow a 3-0 lead like that. 💀
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
While i hate the dramatics and overbearing tone, this is imo more a reason for Nets´ fate than KD being exposed

Nah. This one's mostly on KD he set this whole thing up including Kyrie.

Nets would have gotten rid of Kyrie if not for KD. KD failed not only with his on court performance but he completely failed leading this team in any way off the court and with the front office.


Never have I seen a first option escape scrutinee the way KD does. And he seems to be doing it again, atleast compared to what someone who people argue is the best in the game should get.
 
Nah. This one's mostly on KD he set this whole thing up including Kyrie.

Nets would have gotten rid of Kyrie if not for KD. KD failed not only with his on court performance but he completely failed leading this team in any way off the court and with the front office.
I'm saying this as someone that was born and raised in Brooklyn,...

FUCK BROOKLYN (NETS)!!!!!!!!

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Nah. This one's mostly on KD he set this whole thing up including Kyrie.

Nets would have gotten rid of Kyrie if not for KD. KD failed not only with his on court performance but he completely failed leading this team in any way off the court and with the front office.
Right, Kyrie has never been considered as a top 5 player of the league and a top 15 NBA player of all time. This sweep doesnt impact Kyrie's legacy much but it will surely be a big dent in KD's legacy. KD started to believe the nonsense from media such as he is unstoppable, he was the best in GSW by a mile, GSW needed KD more than he needed them blah blah.

I'm saying this as someone that was born and raised in Brooklyn,...

FUCK BROOKLYN (NETS)!!!!!!!!
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lol, this reminds me of when Brooklyn fans chanted MVP for Steph in KD's own building =>
 
Nah. This one's mostly on KD he set this whole thing up including Kyrie.

Nets would have gotten rid of Kyrie if not for KD. KD failed not only with his on court performance but he completely failed leading this team in any way off the court and with the front office.


Never have I seen a first option escape scrutinee the way KD does. And he seems to be doing it again, atleast compared to what someone who people argue is the best in the game should get.
They refer to that shortly, and i don´t disagree with that.
I am not saying KD is not at fault (insecurity that led to leave GSW, chose wrong team and players, thought he just needs a "partner" to win with iso ball and so forth) but this all would not be an issue if Kyrie was reliable and the partner KD thought he would be.

Of course you can say KD wanted to be another Lebron with all the responsibilities attached and now gotta live with it, and considering he failed the team, he is the main perpetrator, but i think that´s simplifying it too much, especially since if KD had dropped Kyrie quickly, some would also argue he is disloyal and whatnot, something Lebron is often called as well, it´s a difficult issue.

But all that are general problems with the Nets that imo led to the sweep, but not KD getting exposed as a player himself.
Dude had to carry the team all year and is the main reason why they got to the playoffs in the first place, so for me exhaustion in his case at least is not an excuse.
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Whats wrong with what Barkley said? I think he was spot on. KD was not the driver of the Golden State bus, it was Steph. He might have won MVPs, but Iguodala also won MVP without being the driver as Chuck rightly pointed out.
Because he simplifies it way too much, and literally claims that the main guy is the driver and everyone else is a passenger, and not only in regards to off-court stuff, but literally on the court, and not only in regards to winning individual games, but championships.
Basketball is a team sport, some players are more important than others, but not absolutely important that you can say they control the direction everything is going towards.

GSW is great because they don´t rely on "bus drivers", nor can you win championships with individual bus drivers, to take up his metaphor.

Barkley, as always with the inside crew, makes a point that stems from his ego because many people hold their championships over his head, so he is trying to make a point that championships are only relevant if you are the main guy, which is nonsense.

What KD has to fault himself with are his insecurities and his desire to be the next Lebron (or even overcome him) and be regarded as the main guy that brought Nets the championship (like Lebron did in Cleveland), while in GSW he did not get the accolades he thought he deserved (despite getting two FMVPs).

So if anything, KD´s fault is the same as Chuck´s in this analogy, thinking that a player deciding the direction of everything would definitely lead to success.
 
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Conference Quarterfinals | 1st Round
EASTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Miami Heat [53-29] VS (8) Atlanta Hawks [43-39]*
Game 1 | Heat 115 Hawks 91 - F

Game 2 | Heat 115 Hawks 105 - F
Game 3 | Heat 110 Hawks 111 - F
Game 4 | Heat 110 Hawks 86 - F
Game 5 |
(2)
Boston Celtics [51-31] VS (7) Brooklyn Nets [44-38]
Game 1 | Celtics 115 Nets 114 - F

Game 2 | Celtics 114 Nets 107 - F
Game 3 | Celtics 109 Nets 103 - F
Game 4 | Celtics 116 Nets 112 - F
Celtics wins series 4 - 0
(3) Milwaukee Bucks [51-31] VS (6) Chicago Bulls [46-36]
Game 1 | Bucks 93 Bulls 86 - F

Game 2 | Bucks 110 Bulls 114 - F
Game 3 | Bucks 111 Bulls 81 - F
Game 4 | Bucks 119 Bulls 95 - F
Game 5 |
(4)
Philadelphia 76ers [51-31] VS (5) Toronto Raptors [48-34]
Game 1 | 76ers 131 Raptors 111 - F

Game 2 | 76ers 112 Raptors 97 - F
Game 3 | 76ers 104 Raptors 101 - F/OT
Game 4 | 76ers 102 Raptors 110 - F
Game 5 | 76ers 88 Raptors 103 - F
Game 6 |

* RIP Cleveland Cavaliers

WESTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Phoenix Suns [64-18] VS (8) New Orleans Pelicans [36-46]
Game 1 | Suns 110 Pelicans 99 - F

Game 2 | Suns 114 Pelicans 125 - F
Game 3 | Suns 114 Pelicans 111 - F

Game 4 | Suns 103 Pelicans 118 - F
Game 5 |
(2)
Memphis Grizzlies [56-26] VS (7) Minnesota Timberwolves [46-36]
Game 1 | Grizzlies 117 Timberwolves
130 - F
Game 2 | Grizzlies 124 Timberwolves 96 - F

Game 3 | Grizzlies 104 Timberwolves 95 - F
Game 4 | Grizzlies 116 Timberwolves 119 - F
Game 5 |
Game 6 |
(3)
Golden State Warriors [53-29] VS (6) Denver Nuggets [48-34]
Game 1 | Warriors 123 Nuggets 107 - F

Game 2 | Warriors 126 Nuggets 106 - F
Game 3 | Warriors 118 Nuggets 113 - F
Game 4 | Warriors 121 Nuggets 126 - F
Game 5 |
(4)
Dallas Mavericks [52-30] VS (5) Utah Jazz [49-33]
Game 1 | Mavericks 93 Jazz
99 - F
Game 2 | Mavericks 110 Jazz 106 - F

Game 3 | Mavericks 126 Jazz 118 - F
Game 4 | Mavericks 93 Jazz 100 - F
Game 5 | Mavericks 102 Jazz 77 - F

Game 6 |



Conference Semifinals | 2nd Round
EASTERN CONFERENCE
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WESTERN CONFERENCE
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Conference Finals
EASTERN CONFERENCE
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WESTERN CONFERENCE
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NBA FINALS



AWARDS
MVP -
DPOY - G Marcus Smart (Boston Celtics)
6MOY -
ROTY - F Scottie Barnes (Toronto Raptors)
MIP - G Ja Morant (Memphis Grizzlies)
COTY -


 
I can't help but be shameless in light of that stupid loss :josad:


Harden legit looking like a shell of his former self. Actually kind of crazy how fast his decline happened
I'm sad, man. I wish he was in his prime with Embiid. I wish he, Embiid, and CP3 were a super team and MDA was the coach. Scott Foster would've been the most beloved ref of all-time :josad:
 
Basketball is a team sport, some players are more important than others, but not absolutely important that you can say they control the direction everything is going towards.
GSW is great because they don´t rely on "bus drivers", nor can you win championships with individual bus drivers, to take up his metaphor.
You are also oversimplifying like Barkley. There are players who control the direction everything is going towards. Steph is himself a system. Take him out of GSW and you will see how they perform.

So if anything, KD´s fault is the same as Chuck´s in this analogy, thinking that a player deciding the direction of everything would definitely lead to success.
This is not true always. As I said, there are players who can decide the direction of everything and lead the team to success. Lebron did it. KD lacks something very basic to be such a player. He is a shitty playmaker and average passer. He cant run an entire offense by himself as Lebron or Steph can.
 
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