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Who would win this year (2024/25) ?

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Delusional fool. Among the generational players, Lebum is probably the least respected.
I mean this is just objectively false

They do polls in the NBA every year on who they think the greatest player of all time is and Lebron is the only other player that even comes close to Jordan (they’re nearly tied in the latest one iirc)

In the media amongst players of every generation Lebron is acknowledged as the only other player that comes close to Jordan

He definitely has the most haters of any player I can think of though
 
With Respect for mj he is partily a product of media
In all fairness so is Lebron lol

I really don’t think it’s crazy to say either player is the GOAT but if you say that to a Lebron or MJ stan they act like you committed a war crime

It’s the main reason I don’t care about the discussion. It’s all stupid anyway

Ronaldo vs Messi makes more sense because they played in the same era and competed against each other. Lebron and MJ never played against each other

It’s like people claiming Wilt or Bill should be in the GOAT conversation for all the insane things they did when they played before most people discussing it were even born
 
In all fairness so is Lebron lol

I really don’t think it’s crazy to say either player is the GOAT but if you say that to a Lebron or MJ stan they act like you committed a war crime

It’s the main reason I don’t care about the discussion. It’s all stupid anyway

Ronaldo vs Messi makes more sense because they played in the same era and competed against each other. Lebron and MJ never played against each other

It’s like people claiming Wilt or Bill should be in the GOAT conversation for all the insane things they did when they played before most people discussing it were even born
Ikr better would be lbj vs kobe or lbj vs durant
 
"Lebron don't deserve blame for anything who cares if he have lapses on defense In a few possessions he 40!"
You’re fighting a ghost man. Cause I never said any of this lol

Did I say Lebron is blameless? No, I said he’s the least of our worries

He played to his standards and anchored the defense while averaging 25/9/6 with 2 blocks and 2 steals per game. At 40 years old in the playoffs you really couldn’t ask for more

The only thing he needs to do is take a lesser contract to give the Lakers more room to build a team around Luka

Luka needs to learn how to play defense and AR needs to wake up for the postseason

Vando provides much needed defense but until he learns how to score at a decent level it’ll be hard to give him minutes
 
Lebum after winning his 4th ring, "I want my damn respect"
Cause he doesn’t get the respect he deserves from everyone

But if you genuinely think he’s the least respected generational player then you’re letting your hate do the talking

People barely talk about Tim Duncan even though he won multiple chips in the same era as greats like Shaq, Kobe, KG, Dirk, etc

Gotta be realistic man
 
Cause he doesn’t get the respect he deserves from everyone

But if you genuinely think he’s the least respected generational player then you’re letting your hate do the talking

People barely talk about Tim Duncan even though he won multiple chips in the same era as greats like Shaq, Kobe, KG, Dirk, etc

Gotta be realistic man
Duncan doesnt get so much attention bc he is Calm Not cotroversial guy
 
Duncan doesnt get so much attention bc he is Calm Not cotroversial guy
He’s probably one of the more relatable NBA legends tbh

He won a bunch of championships beating legends on his way, won multiple MVPs, had insane longevity and then faded to the background like he was never there

It’s kinda sad that no one talks about him. When people talk about players all you hear is Jordan, Lebron, Kobe, Shaq, Curry, Iverson, etc

But he had more playoff success than MOST people he’s compared to and is never brought up
 
Yea that the point you went straight "praise him for what he doing" and "least of our worries" is "fuck the whole team except him" obvious pro agenda
I’m the one with an agenda when you brought up Jordan out of nowhere?

:risicheck:

Anyway, I said he was the least of our worries as a response to the guy singling him out. He played to his role as the second option

I’d say the same thing if people critiqued Rui when he did exactly what he was supposed to do as the 4th option

The only players that clearly need to improve given their roles are Luka and AR with Vando as a distant 3rd (more of a personal issue with Vando, his offense is nonexistent)
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Ikr better would be lbj vs kobe or lbj vs durant
Durant doesn’t belong to the convo at all

Curry is a challenge and part of the main players in Lebron years not Durant
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Durant vs Wade or Kawhi is a better debate than against LBJ
 
Curry or Warriors‘ prime years were definitely one of the most dominant era. Peeps didn’t know what to do against him for 2-3 years, the NBA suspending Draymond was still so much BS. Curry was the point guard version of Shaq in terms of dominance.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Curry or Warriors‘ prime years were definitely one of the most dominant era. Peeps didn’t know what to do against him for 2-3 years, the NBA suspending Draymond was still so much BS.
Cavs beat them down from 3-1 lead

and they asked for Durant help to compete

I would have liked to see multiple finales without Durant against Lebron cavs
 
Cavs beat them down from 3-1 lead

and they asked for Durant help to compete

I would have liked to see multiple finales without Durant against Lebron cavs
They shouldn’t have asked for Durant, I believe the Warriors would have gotten revenge the very next year without him. 3-1 lead, and the refs had to be BS for the momentum to swing. Sure, the pressure and the lights got too bright but the Warriors were still provenly nigh-unbeatable without Durant.
 
They shouldn’t have asked for Durant, I believe the Warriors would have gotten revenge the very next year without him. 3-1 lead, and the refs had to be BS for the momentum to swing. Sure, the pressure and the lights got too bright but the Warriors were still provenly nigh-unbeatable without Durant.
The League would’ve been far more competitive if KD stayed with OKC or went to a different team

Like you say the Warriors would’ve gotten revenge but who’s to say they even would’ve made it back to the Finals

That isn’t downplaying Curry I think people really forget how much of a bloodbath the West was at the time

KD’s Thunder and Harden’s Rockets were legitimate championship contenders every season

Hell, KD and Russ choked away a 3-1 lead to the Warriors in the conference finals

Nobody could really say what would’ve happened next. Thats why the KD trade is imo probably the event that affected the NBA the most in the last 20 ish years. Literally everything changed because of it

KD is either ringless or gets 1 with Russ if he’s lucky, Harden and CP3 could have a ring (assuming the trade for CP3 still happens), the Brooklyn Big 3 probably never happens, Lebron could have more or less rings, etc
 
But if you genuinely think he’s the least respected generational player then you’re letting your hate do the talking
He is. Show me comments from analysts saying "Duncan lacked killer instinct, not a closer" blah blah. And most of these analysts are paid by Lebum (Clutch sports). People respect Duncan just like they respect Curry - there is a reason why Lebum wants his damn respect lmao.
 
The League would’ve been far more competitive if KD stayed with OKC or went to a different team

Like you say the Warriors would’ve gotten revenge but who’s to say they even would’ve made it back to the Finals

That isn’t downplaying Curry I think people really forget how much of a bloodbath the West was at the time

KD’s Thunder and Harden’s Rockets were legitimate championship contenders every season

Hell, KD and Russ choked away a 3-1 lead to the Warriors in the conference finals

Nobody could really say what would’ve happened next. Thats why the KD trade is imo probably the event that affected the NBA the most in the last 20 ish years. Literally everything changed because of it

KD is either ringless or gets 1 with Russ if he’s lucky, Harden and CP3 could have a ring (assuming the trade for CP3 still happens), the Brooklyn Big 3 probably never happens, Lebron could have more or less rings, etc
Yeah, the west has always been a bloodbath, up until now really. There’s a level of uncertainty and it would have been way more entertaining. But, I’d still pick the Warriors as the favorites for the next 2-3 years at the time. Prime trio of Steph, Klay and Draymond were demons. They also had a deep lineup, prime Warriors could and should have honestly gotten a 3-peat. It’s incredible to think about that given their competition in the west and ofc prime Lebron in the finals. What could have been, ffs.
 
Durant doesn’t belong to the convo at all

Curry is a challenge and part of the main players in Lebron years not Durant
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Durant vs Wade or Kawhi is a better debate than against LBJ
Isnt durant vs James a discussion because okc and Heat Met in the Finals 2012 and they have similar Positions?
 
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