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Who would win this year (2024/25) ?

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  • Total voters
    27

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
@Nidai_Kitetsu Warriors need to get rid of Draymond asap. He's been a complete blackhole on offense for years now, I'm so tired of pretending he's not hurting the team when he's on the floor, it's constant 5v4, the only reason he's even able to hog up mins is because Steph makes him look viable, but he's simply not a starter caliber player and hasn't been for over 5 years now. It's time to stop protecting him acting like he adds value to the team. I deadass think this exact team minus Draymond would already jump to top 5 in the West atleast.

Only reason he's still here is because Curry and Kerr are afraid of him, they've been protecting him for too long, enough is enough you can't let a player of Draymond's caliber sink the ship. There are real people out there who have been fooled into thinking Draymond Green is a good playmaker 😂, all he does is run 4 vs 3 with no defender on him when Curry is doubled. There's like 150 players in the league who can do the same.
 
@Nidai_Kitetsu Warriors need to get rid of Draymond asap. He's been a complete blackhole on offense for years now, I'm so tired of pretending he's not hurting the team when he's on the floor, it's constant 5v4, the only reason he's even able to hog up mins is because Steph makes him look viable, but he's simply not a starter caliber player and hasn't been for over 5 years now. It's time to stop protecting him acting like he adds value to the team. I deadass think this exact team minus Draymond would already jump to top 5 in the West atleast.

Only reason he's still here is because Curry and Kerr are afraid of him, they've been protecting him for too long, enough is enough you can't let a player of Draymond's caliber sink the ship. There are real people out there who have been fooled into thinking Draymond Green is a good playmaker 😂, all he does is run 4 vs 3 with no defender on him when Curry is doubled. There's like 150 players in the league who can do the same.
He should have been gone 4 seasons before. They made a mistake of choosing him over Klay.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
@Nidai_Kitetsu @GalaxyLevelShanks @park_min young
Y'all seeing Curry play on ball when Draymond is out? People need this reminder every now and then, Steve Kerr has robbed us of on-ball Steph. He's arguably better on-ball than off-ball, which is crazy to say given he's the best off ball player ever, the constant off ball shit is just a justification for Draymond to be on the floor...I'm so over it. Curry is a tier 1 passer but they want to have the ball in Draymond's hand so that he can be relevant.
 
@Nidai_Kitetsu @GalaxyLevelShanks @park_min young
Y'all seeing Curry play on ball when Draymond is out? People need this reminder every now and then, Steve Kerr has robbed us of on-ball Steph. He's arguably better on-ball than off-ball, which is crazy to say given he's the best off ball player ever, the constant off ball shit is just a justification for Draymond to be on the floor...I'm so over it. Curry is a tier 1 passer but they want to have the ball in Draymond's hand so that he can be relevant.
Being on the ball helps a player's rhythm. Thats why LeBron has the ball so much. Steph is probably the only megastar who is comfortable deferring ball-handling duties to someone like Draybum.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Being on the ball helps a player's rhythm. Thats why LeBron has the ball so much. Steph is probably the only megastar who is comfortable deferring ball-handling duties to someone like Draybum.
Curry is such an elite passer it's such a waste. Though in the playoffs during 4th quarters, Curry becomes completely on ball because even Steve Kerr knows they can't play around. That just shows you when shit really hits the fan they resort to Curry completely spamming pick and roll, it is completely unguardable when he brings the ball up.
 
@Nidai_Kitetsu @GalaxyLevelShanks @park_min young
Y'all seeing Curry play on ball when Draymond is out? People need this reminder every now and then, Steve Kerr has robbed us of on-ball Steph. He's arguably better on-ball than off-ball, which is crazy to say given he's the best off ball player ever, the constant off ball shit is just a justification for Draymond to be on the floor...I'm so over it. Curry is a tier 1 passer but they want to have the ball in Draymond's hand so that he can be relevant.
Steph is an all time ball handler and passer. He's still an ATG playmaker without his off ball movement and GOAT tier when you factor in his GOAT level off ball movement/gravity. Thankfully, the narrative that Dray is the true PG of the Warriors dynasty has died down in recent years after Steph has proven himself with higher usage and more on ball stuff. We never got to see Curry at his peak potential because of the off-ball role and having to sacrifice himself for KD... he'd have MJ level numbers if he was the on-ball focus (as we saw in '21). At least we have advanced stats that showcase his true impact.

His assist stats should also be a lot higher when you look at the looks he creates. Especially these past few seasons and this one. Sadly his teammates are bums that miss open shots.

@Nidai_Kitetsu @ZenZu @park_min young now all Curry glaze aside, did y'all see that Jimmy injury :josad:our season is over if it's an ACL. Owari da :frodohug:
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Steph is an all time ball handler and passer. He's still an ATG playmaker without his off ball movement and GOAT tier when you factor in his GOAT level off ball movement/gravity. Thankfully, the narrative that Dray is the true PG of the Warriors dynasty has died down in recent years after Steph has proven himself with higher usage and more on ball stuff. We never got to see Curry at his peak potential because of the off-ball role and having to sacrifice himself for KD... he'd have MJ level numbers if he was the on-ball focus (as we saw in '21). At least we have advanced stats that showcase his true impact.

His assist stats should also be a lot higher when you look at the looks he creates. Especially these past few seasons and this one. Sadly his teammates are bums that miss open shots.

@Nidai_Kitetsu @ZenZu @park_min young now all Curry glaze aside, did y'all see that Jimmy injury :josad:our season is over if it's an ACL. Owari da :frodohug:
Yup it's over. Even MPJ can't save this team if Jimmy is out for the year.
 
Thankfully, the narrative that Dray is the true PG of the Warriors dynasty has died down in recent years after Steph has proven himself with higher usage and more on ball stuff.
Its just propaganda to minimize Steph's greatness. I have been telling Zenzu that Dray is a liability like forever. He was so bad in their last ring that Dray's mom tweeted I dont know this guy. Letting Poole go instead of Dray was a mistake. Idk why people rate that organization so highly. Without Steph, GSW would have remained a trash team.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Hope I'm wrong but that Jimmy injury might be the end of Steph Curry's championship window. I think it's finally over.

Butler is 37, he's not returning from an ACL injury as the same player and Warriors don't have enough assets to do much without him. It's a shame because I genuinely think they were an MPJ trade away from a ring. I don't see anyone stopping Curry and Butler in the playoffs with MPJ as a third option.

I would be looking to play elsewhere right about now if I were Steph. He's still in his prime but it might not last more than 1 or 2 years more. No point wasting it.
 
Hope I'm wrong but that Jimmy injury might be the end of Steph Curry's championship window. I think it's finally over.

Butler is 37, he's not returning from an ACL injury as the same player and Warriors don't have enough assets to do much without him. It's a shame because I genuinely think they were an MPJ trade away from a ring. I don't see anyone stopping Curry and Butler in the playoffs with MPJ as a third option.

I would be looking to play elsewhere right about now if I were Steph. He's still in his prime but it might not last more than 1 or 2 years more. No point wasting it.
Hopefully it’s just a knee hyper extension so he’s only out for a few weeks

But if it’s an ACL then yeah it’s over it was a good run
 
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