Powers & Abilities New Goalpost for Zoro?
- Thread starter Blazing Lion
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Unless you're taking Mink timelimit until account, there is no way rooftop Zoro is losing.
Once fired, Katakuri has no counter to dragon twister. His only shot is to somehow prevent Zoro from making the move. Either dragon twister ends it, or we have a slugfest where zoro has to stall till FS runs low.
Zoro only needed KoH cause he was facing someone more durable than Kaido. He wouldn't need to use it against Katakuri. The timelimit question doesn't even come into picture.
Awakening could be troublesome for a grounded fighter, he would have to resort to propulsion from sword I guess. Tying up with mochi wouldn't work, cause advanced armament (barrier) can deal with it.
Katakuri is a bad matchup for Zoro yes, but the gap is big enough to just give it to Zoro.
Cause whatever argument you can use against Zoro, you can just for any top tier swordsman without confirmed FS and/or flight (like Shanks)
Once fired, Katakuri has no counter to dragon twister. His only shot is to somehow prevent Zoro from making the move. Either dragon twister ends it, or we have a slugfest where zoro has to stall till FS runs low.
Zoro only needed KoH cause he was facing someone more durable than Kaido. He wouldn't need to use it against Katakuri. The timelimit question doesn't even come into picture.
Awakening could be troublesome for a grounded fighter, he would have to resort to propulsion from sword I guess. Tying up with mochi wouldn't work, cause advanced armament (barrier) can deal with it.
Katakuri is a bad matchup for Zoro yes, but the gap is big enough to just give it to Zoro.
Cause whatever argument you can use against Zoro, you can just for any top tier swordsman without confirmed FS and/or flight (like Shanks)
Zoro only Used his Upgraded Techniques (Results of Mihawk Training) 17 Times,
2 of them were Defensively (UI Tora Gari Twice),
5 of them were against Flame On Lunarians (Shi Shishi Sonson Twice + Rengoku Oni Giri Twice + Kokujo Tatsu Maki Once),
2 of them were to Hunt Beasts (Shi Shishi Sonson Once + Kokujo Tatsu Maki Once),
1 of them was against Fodder Squad (Kokujo Tatsu Maki),
1 of them was clearly stated to be Nerfed but still got Praised (Rengoku Oni Giri),
This only leaves us with Six Times where Zoro's Post-TS Level was Tested (Again, this is in almost 600 Chapters lol)
So, let's check such Feats:
1. Rengoku Oni Giri vs Hyouzou
2. Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai vs Pica Golem
3. Rengoku Oni Giri vs Kamazo
4. Kokujo Tatsu Maki vs Kaidou
5. Kokoba Madara Gari vs Lucci
6. Gokuraku Anyo Rashomon vs Nusjuro
2 of them were Defensively (UI Tora Gari Twice),
5 of them were against Flame On Lunarians (Shi Shishi Sonson Twice + Rengoku Oni Giri Twice + Kokujo Tatsu Maki Once),
2 of them were to Hunt Beasts (Shi Shishi Sonson Once + Kokujo Tatsu Maki Once),
1 of them was against Fodder Squad (Kokujo Tatsu Maki),
1 of them was clearly stated to be Nerfed but still got Praised (Rengoku Oni Giri),
This only leaves us with Six Times where Zoro's Post-TS Level was Tested (Again, this is in almost 600 Chapters lol)
So, let's check such Feats:
1. Rengoku Oni Giri vs Hyouzou
2. Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai vs Pica Golem
3. Rengoku Oni Giri vs Kamazo
4. Kokujo Tatsu Maki vs Kaidou
5. Kokoba Madara Gari vs Lucci
6. Gokuraku Anyo Rashomon vs Nusjuro
The problem isn't just how Impressive these Feats are (I'm not even Including Non-Upgraded Techniques Feats or Non-Techniques Feats),
The problem is that these Feats don't even Showcase Limit of Zoro's Power, it doesn't Reveal to us Limit of his Post-Mihawk Training Techniques,
Feats 1, 2, 3 & 4 Overwhelmingly Destroyed & Dominated their Targets, and all Four of them Portrayed Zoro as Someone who Only decided to Perform them cuz He got Annoyed of Fighting, showing Extreme Superiority, while Feats 4 & 6 were against Kaidou & Nusjuro, where He Matched them Both in their Own Game, and his Goal was to simply get them away from Luffy/SHs,
Many Readers would be Convinced that Zoro is a Top Tier just from such Feats (Especially since They aren't Capped yet, They might as well be way beyond what They were Used for), but even if Most don't Agree, They can't deny that it's Debatable, how many Non-Top Tiers can you Name who can Comfortably Perform all of these Feats together?
These People aren't just Refusing to Put that Zoro on Top Tier, which We can still consider Understandable that They wanna see more for the sake of argument, but They also believe that even when including King of Hell, Asura & Adv. CoC, He still isn't a Top Tier lmao
Apparently, the Gap between Cutting Kaidou & Overwhelmingly One-Shotting likes of Lucci & Killer & Pica Golem & Equally Clashing with Nusjuro (His Stats are Top Tier), and reaching Top Tier is so Huge that even Tripling your Stats & Sword-Style (Asura) + Unleashing your Full Haki (King of Hell) + Adv. CoC Coating doesn't cover lol
Current zoro is stronger than Luffy imo. I don't really see them as equals since from fish Island arc. Like I said before when Luffy encountered his first yonko which was big mom she literally one shotted him, this same Luffy was more or less equal to katakuri. And he met with Kaidou and got clapped the first time neg diff and the second time he got bullied and needed law Zoro and kidd to be a even fight Kaidou. Meanwhile Zoro dominated Kaidou and overpowered him in his hybrid form and both big mom and Kaidou couldn't even knock him out with their combined attack.
Imagine still glazing Katakuri in 2026 
I wonder why that is? Maybe Zoro tards should wake up and smell the roses. This forum is a safety bubble for people still living in a different reality.
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None of the Gorosei are top tier. Luffy was toying with Saturn and Kizaru at the same time. Someone like Kaido would absolutely dominate them. We saw how badly he kept beating Luffy even in Gear 5. To call Nusjuro top tier is an insult. Even Sanji landed a better shot against him.
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