Future Events Next island after Elbaf?

[King7]

I am hoping it will be laughtale. I have heard this somewhere maybe someone from here that laughtale maybe where ancient kingdom is located. Would be hype if that is the case.

I believe i also thought that Raftel was the Ancient Kingdom's ruins once

Because, if you compare the glimpses of Raftel from Inu's and Crocus' speech :

To this glimpse of Ancient Kingdom from Clover's speech :

I honestly got the impression that they could be the same building

Like, i don't know anything about architecture, but looking at those images, i just get the impressions that :
- they could be the same building ; the architecture/building style seems similar ;

- and that Raftel is meant to be Ancient Kingdom

Yeah..... i think i'm still gonna believe this, Raftel = Ancient Kingdom's ruins

I hope we go to Raftel right after Elbaf

 

[nik87]

Based on this, the boi is already focused more on the Burn Scar than on the Elbaf itself...
...which means, he already plans to pull another nothing happened. Why am I even surprised...
Even the Final Saga is turning into lame shit because he cannot commit to finishing anything.

He got more done in pre-TS and post-TS when you think about it.
Having 2 islands back to back, where there was no trouble, forcefully adding troublemakers and then not taking them out for good is a new low. I guess he means Lodestar with the island nobody reached aside Roger and now countless people will reach it...

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Lodestar... We haven't had any minor arc in years... A fitting one before the great arcs...

 

[D. Plant]

Lode Star -> Laugh Tale -> MarieJois

 

[Paperchampion23]

Lodestar... We haven't had any minor arc in years... A fitting one before the great arcs...

I highly doubt its minor. He just talked about how a bunch of characters are about to meet and the Burned Scar Man will appear. That has to happen before LT, which means Lodestar is very likely the location where all of this goes down

 

[thisnewtechnique]

Lode Star -> Laugh Tale -> MarieJois

How? Marie Geoise is already being raided

 

[Paperchampion23]

How? Marie Geoise is already being raided

I dont think this really means much. Marie Geoise is an exception to the rule given we know things need to happen to Fishman Island that revolve around Luffy. Chances are we do head back there post LT depending on what happens

Symbolically, destroying Red Line under it is probably going to happen at some point.

 

[Rej]

why aren't Birka or Vira options here? everyone who is versed with the story and community theories should include these in the options

Imho there are many routes and Oda might take all of these simultanously:

1. Second Impel Down breakout and all pirates who are not affiliated with Luffy or Teach will glitch their way to Lodestar where they will meet with the Cross Guild and join with them.

2. The Strawhats will continue their adventures, but this time we are going back to the sky/Birka (Urouge mini arc)

3. Teach will be either in Mary Geoise to dethrone Imu or he will glitch his way to Lough Tale.

4. Dragon/Sabo will be either in Mary Geoise to dethrone Imu or they will be present in the New World and attempt to flip it against the World Government. (Maybe they will make it to Elbaf, Wano or Vira)

Imho all of these can happen simultanously before Lough Tale and that way we can get a bit of every missing island on the table.

 

[D. Plant]

How? Marie Geoise is already being raided

It was theorized that the Elbaph warriors will invade MarieJois. Elbaph is Viking, long ago the vikings once invaded Paris by sailing up stream through Seine river. If you read Seine in reverse, it will be Enies and there is a place called Enies Lobby. Below Enies Lobby is a big hole, Elbaph warriors might use the hole to travel to MarieJois.

Loki is needed to destroy the Red Line that was stated as the blood-stained serpent and also encircling the world, this sounds just like Jormungandr. In the mytho, Thor defeated Jormungandr. And now Loki holds the Ragnir (Mjolnir) and on top with a Legendary DF rumored to be able to destroy the world, he is destined to lead the giants to MarieJois and destroy the Red Line.

Of course they are not going to act before Luffy finishes his journey to Lodestar/Laughtale.

 

[Paperchampion23]

why aren't Birka or Vira options here? everyone who is versed with the story and community theories should include these in the options

Imho there are many routes and Oda might take all of these simultanously:

1. Second Impel Down breakout and all pirates who are not affiliated with Luffy or Teach will glitch their way to Lodestar where they will meet with the Cross Guild and join with them.

2. The Strawhats will continue their adventures, but this time we are going back to the sky/Birka (Urouge mini arc)

3. Teach will be either in Mary Geoise to dethrone Imu or he will glitch his way to Lough Tale.

4. Dragon/Sabo will be either in Mary Geoise to dethrone Imu or they will be present in the New World and attempt to flip it against the World Government. (Maybe they will make it to Elbaf, Wano or Vira)

Imho all of these can happen simultanously before Lough Tale and that way we can get a bit of every missing island on the table.

Because Birka is destroyed per Enel and Vira is a random country that was only meant to be a reference to Dragon and his RA liberating it, thats it.

 

[Rej]

Because Birka is destroyed per Enel and Vira is a random no name country that was only meant to be a reference to Dragon and his RA, thats it.

Birka could still be kicking. Either just as ruins or with a couple of survivors. Either way it is important for the lore and I hope to learn more about what happened to it, through Urouge's or Enel's flashbacks.

I also saw guys speculating about it falling down into the top of the Adam Tree. That would ideally be the easiest solution here lol.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Birka could still be kicking. Either just as ruins or with a couple of survivors. Either way it is important for the lore and I hope to learn more about what happened to it, through Urouge's or Enel's flashbacks.

I also saw guys speculating about it falling down into the top of the Adam Tree. That would ideally be the easiest solution here lol.

I think if we are getting anything Heaven realm related its just the nature of High West and its connection to sky islands but sure maybe

 

[Rej]

I think if we are getting anything Heaven realm related its just the nature of High West and its connection to sky islands but sure maybe

I just hope it is not like end of Wano, the underwater Wano, where it's justa few panels and we are done.

I hope it is more like Shandora where we spent a few chapters of the Sky Island arc exploring that ancient city ruins.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I just hope it is not like end of Wano, the underwater Wano, where it's justa few panels and we are done.

I hope it is more like Shandora where we spent a few chapters of the Sky Island arc exploring that ancient city ruins.

So one thought i had was maybe it doesnt happen in Elbaf's arc directly but if Luffy becomes PK and has to head back to Mariejoa, he needs to ascend to Heaven's Realm in order to get to Mariejoa reliably, because you can take High West (which heads back west) over the Holy Land and then drop down to fight the Government.

Basically its the only time I expect to see us visiting an island a second time, because Luffy needs to face the WG anyway after finding One Piece.

Obviously this assumes High West is real and stems from Elbaf's tree

 

[Rej]

So one thought i had was maybe it doesnt happen in Elbaf's arc directly but if Luffy becomes PK and has to head back to Mariejoa, he needs to ascend to Heaven's Realm in order to get to Mariejoa reliably, because you can take High West (which heads back west) over the Holy Land and then drop down to fight the Government.

Basically its the only time I expect to see us visiting an island a second time, because Luffy needs to face the WG anyway after finding One Piece.

Obviously this assumes High West is real and stems from Elbaf's tree

that's also an interesting idea for sure!

 

[OykotsTreasure]

"The Island that the Pirate King only ever reached" definitely makes it sound like we're headed to either Lodestar or Laugh Tale next. I feel like Lodestar is more likely, because...if we don't visit it now, at least shortly, we never will. I guess I THOUGHT that other people managed to find Lodestar too, but I guess no one ever actually said that. Inuarashi somehow knew about it, enough to tell the Strawhats about it, but I guess Roger could have told the Minks on Zou about it. (Chapter 820, 966). So, yeah, probably Lodestar!

As for Elbaph getting over soon...yeah, it actually kind of sounds like that from the Jump Festa message. Either Oda's going to pull another "missing night" on us like how he skipped the Strawhats fighting York on Egghead...or Lilith's going to press a button in that Ancient Lab she's investigating, creating a force field around the island or something that drives away Imu and the God's Knights conveniently to wrap things up super fast. That would be another "Haki Knot" like moment that would end Elbaph with a "Bang" of a sort.

I will admit though, it does seem like we have at least a few more chapters of this flashback yet. Loki has to eat his Fruit...AND he has go rampaging outside of Elbaph for a few years...AND he has to meet up with Lola and propose to her...AND he has to get chained up again. Oda COULD wrap that up in one or two chapters, but he hasn't really seemed too rushed to do that so far. It does feel like with the current pacing we'd be more likely to get 3 or 4 more flashback chapters. But, who knows?

I still want clarification on what "Do not linger here" was supposed to mean, though. And we still haven't seen the Heaven/Astral Realm of Elbaph. And at this point, I'm not sure we ever will. But...oh well?

The hints about the next One Piece Movie is kind of fun. One IS in development, at least. And given we're getting ever closer to the end, I'm interested to see what it's actually about. Personally, I'm kind of hoping for a "Bad End Universe" movie, where we see the "Bad Timeline" Oda's been teasing in SBS's, but that's kind of a crazy out there prediction.

"Two people who never crossed paths before"? Um...I'll go with Dragon meeting Garling or Imu. That'd be kind of exciting.

"Those two run into each other?" Hmm...I'll go with Law and Bartolomeo. We still need to follow up on those two. He does specifically say "two" though. So...that would leave out Kid.

It definitely sounds like Oda's decided to run headlong into the final arcs. But, it's sounded like that before, too. So, who knows how much longer we have left?

 

[Paperchampion23]

"The Island that the Pirate King only ever reached" definitely makes it sound like we're headed to either Lodestar or Laugh Tale next. I feel like Lodestar is more likely, because...if we don't visit it now, at least shortly, we never will. I guess I THOUGHT that other people managed to find Lodestar too, but I guess no one ever actually said that. Inuarashi somehow knew about it, enough to tell the Strawhats about it, but I guess Roger could have told the Minks on Zou about it. (Chapter 820, 966). So, yeah, probably Lodestar!

As for Elbaph getting over soon...yeah, it actually kind of sounds like that from the Jump Festa message. Either Oda's going to pull another "missing night" on us like how he skipped the Strawhats fighting York on Egghead...or Lilith's going to press a button in that Ancient Lab she's investigating, creating a force field around the island or something that drives away Imu and the God's Knights conveniently to wrap things up super fast. That would be another "Haki Knot" like moment that would end Elbaph with a "Bang" of a sort.

I will admit though, it does seem like we have at least a few more chapters of this flashback yet. Loki has to eat his Fruit...AND he has go rampaging outside of Elbaph for a few years...AND he has to meet up with Lola and propose to her...AND he has to get chained up again. Oda COULD wrap that up in one or two chapters, but he hasn't really seemed too rushed to do that so far. It does feel like with the current pacing we'd be more likely to get 3 or 4 more flashback chapters. But, who knows?

I still want clarification on what "Do not linger here" was supposed to mean, though. And we still haven't seen the Heaven/Astral Realm of Elbaph. And at this point, I'm not sure we ever will. But...oh well?

The hints about the next One Piece Movie is kind of fun. One IS in development, at least. And given we're getting ever closer to the end, I'm interested to see what it's actually about. Personally, I'm kind of hoping for a "Bad End Universe" movie, where we see the "Bad Timeline" Oda's been teasing in SBS's, but that's kind of a crazy out there prediction.

"Two people who never crossed paths before"? Um...I'll go with Dragon meeting Garling or Imu. That'd be kind of exciting.

"Those two run into each other?" Hmm...I'll go with Law and Bartolomeo. We still need to follow up on those two. He does specifically say "two" though. So...that would leave out Kid.

It definitely sounds like Oda's decided to run headlong into the final arcs. But, it's sounded like that before, too. So, who knows how much longer we have left?

Never use Oda's jump festa comments as an estimation for anything lol. He teased Wano 2 separate years and even Wano's own ending twice. So theres like a 50/50 chance Elbaf doesnt end next year at all lol

That said, I think what he's talking about is Laugh Tale, but its just the concept of actually having the crew talk about getting there and getting us on that page.

That alone will take time. By virtue of not showing the 4th RP and the Burned Scar Man, and implying many characters will meet (and probably fight) it means there is an island or two before it.

We will absolutely go to Lodestar. Its the symbolic end before LT and it might be where the 4th RP is fought over for all we know. Not to mention, Oda only hides island designs if it means we go there.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Lode star all in

 

[chacharealsmooth]

Because Birka is destroyed per Enel and Vira is a random country that was only meant to be a reference to Dragon and his RA liberating it, thats it.

Vira is a serious candidate imho. All hints point out to Vira being close to Elbaph. Also, I do not think Heaven Realm was mentioned to just be left without exploration. I agree with the theory of the Heaven Realm = Summit of the High West. Maybe not to Birka, but a visit to another sky island is not out of possibility.

A mini Vira arc is going to create a major conflict between Vivi and the common folk. That island seems to be invested in the idea of a blood revolution (kill all kings and royal families) and that is far off from what Dragon and the RA actually want. If we do not want to see heads of Vivi, Rebecca, Riku, Elizabello etc. on spikes after the WG falls, we have to tackle the issue of “the true purpose of the RA and what they represent” sooner or later.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Vira is a serious candidate imho. All hints point out to Vira being close to Elbaph.

Theres only one "hint" and its from supplemental break material that jump provided about the 4th RP, thats it. Theres no indication Oda even approved that statement or if it actually means anything.

Vira was mentioned literally once in this story and it was prior to Grand Line lol.