General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Sir Yasheen]

Yeah i labeled her a energy scientist, when he said she would be a scientist that focused on energy because that was the role he declared for her.

How is that a strawman

Because that’s connected to a dream Vegapunk spoke about. Discovering free energy for all.

We’ve seen that scientists have a wide array of skills. Judge is a geneticist; however, doesn’t stop him from having a high understanding of weaponry and machinations.

Queen is an Epidemiologist but also works on cybernetics

You’re strawmanning by specifying that “energy scientist” would only focus on energy, when all I mentioned was an area that would be directly connected to a dream. Shed still have a high amount of knowledge in other aspects like any other Scientist in verse.

 

[Warback]

Because that’s connected to a dream Vegapunk spoke about. Discovering free energy for all.

We’ve seen that scientists have a wide array of skills. Judge is a geneticist; however, doesn’t stop him from having a high understanding of weaponry and machinations.

Queen is an Epidemiologist but also works on cybernetics

You’re strawmanning by specifying that “energy scientist” would only focus on energy, when all I mentioned was an area that would be directly connected to a dream. Shed still have a high amount of knowledge in other aspects like any other Scientist in verse.

Can you not be dishonest? You're apropriating an erroneus call of a strawman, you categorically called her a scientist that focuses on energy and i argued on those grounds of energy, that's it.

It's irrelevant if she can do other things besides energy because my first comment was that we don't need a scientist, period, specially not an energy scientist, so the strawman you're claiming is literally impossible


Scientist is a role that's not needed in the crew in my opinion, and even less so an energy scientist, at no point did i strawman anything

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Can you not be dishonest? You're apropriating an erroneus call of a strawman, you categorically called her a scientist that focuses on energy and i argued on those grounds of energy, that's it.

It's irrelevant if she can do other things besides energy because my first comment was that we don't need a scientist, period, specially not an energy scientist, so the strawman you're claiming is literally impossible


Scientist is a role that's not needed in the crew in my opinion, and even less so an energy scientist, at no point did i strawman anything

Scientist is a role that’s been helpful before on the ship. And you asked me what energy problems have ever occurred on the ship and I answered.

Scientist would be her role, a knowledge of energy is just how it would retain to the world. Similar to how Robins an archaeologist, there are many different kinds of them but her focus on the Poneglyphs is how it retains to the world.

 

[Warback]

Yeah that's fine i heard you say that already, i wasn't relitegating this convo i just was explained how i didn't strawman

Spoiler: Also

Also she's 100% the traitor so

 

[Rambles]

Well, Oda is doing something that is out of Carrot's character, this is not something that I predicted.



No.

I mean that no matter the theory you should never expect something out of hints and potential theorizing work. You can theorize but never expect without setup. This is why people are often dissapointed, illigitimately.

That is why my texts/comments often times consists of analysing and not of theorizing. Only when you have an analytical base, then you can theorize a little ahead of the story and make assumptions. Look for example at the number-analysis/numerical-approach for the SHP DFs.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yeah that's fine i heard you say that already, i wasn't relitegating this convo i just was explained how i didn't strawman

Spoiler: Also

Also she's 100% the traitor so

You think she defeated jinbe?

 

[Rambles]

Stussy just solved the Sunny's energy problem:

 

[Warback]

You think she defeated jinbe?

I dunno what that means, but i'd low key bet she's the one that shot shaka

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I dunno what that means, but i'd low key bet she's the one that shot shaka

Well last time we saw her she was with Jinbe and Sanji. Sanji left to save Nami, but we have no reason to think jinbe separated from her.

And why would she use a gun? She knows flying finger pistol.

 

[Warback]

I think you're a bit too late in the story to ask "why would this character use a gun", that works with every character

 

[Rambles]

Well last time we saw her she was with Jinbe and Sanji. Sanji left to save Nami, but we have no reason to think jinbe separated from her.

And why would she use a gun? She knows flying finger pistol.

I think there are more than two sides involved, whose actions intermingle and are causing the resulting, complicated situation we are seeing now.

 

[Warback]

It's gunna be the BB pirates. Stussy either or.

 

[Sigran101]

What would be the point of having Stussy being revealed as a double agent, only to be revealed as a triple agent 4 chapters later after having almost zero connection with any of the main characters?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

What would be the point of having Stussy being revealed as a double agent, only to be revealed as a triple agent 4 chapters later after having almost zero connection with any of the main characters?

Not to mention she was literally with the straw hats when Stella was nabbed

 

[Sigran101]

Not to mention she was literally with the straw hats when Stella was nabbed

Yeah, clearly this is an agenda, not a theory.

 

[Logiko]

Look for example at the number-analysis/numerical-approach for the SHP DFs.

This isn't even good theorizing. The number in devil fruit relies on nothing.

Yeah, clearly this is an agenda, not a theory.

Yup, the best theory right now, is a potential seraphim being behind the curtain. Someone like S doffy or S Croco.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Just saying guys. Hattori is gone and Shaka's head was shot.

Lucci commanded him to take out the Vegapunks whilst he pretends to be friends with Luffy.

I propose HattoriForNakama agenda

 

[Sigran101]

This isn't even good theorizing. The number in devil fruit relies on nothing.

Yup, the best theory right now, is a potential seraphim being behind the curtain. Someone like S doffy or S Croco.

I haven't heard that before, that would be awesome! Imagine S doffy developing free will and leading the seraphim to rise up against vegapunk and the WG. That would be way better than another traitor plot. Plus Doffy uses a gun, so the pistol fits.

 

[Logiko]

I haven't heard that before, that would be awesome! Imagine S doffy developing free will and leading the seraphim to rise up against vegapunk and the WG. That would be way better than another traitor plot. Plus Doffy uses a gun, so the pistol fits.

I've talked about that two weeks ago in the 1076 chapter section:

Been wondering.. Have people been talking about the seraphim being the "traitors" ?

Doesn't feel odd that we haven't seen the Seraphim of Doffy ?

What if the Doffy kid has actual memories and is just puppeting the seraphim from his room ?

It didn't get too much attention. But I think other people came to the same conclusion so it seems like a good potentiality for me.

It would be really cool as it would developped the conflict around the seraphim's personnalities.

 

[Rambles]

I propose HattoriForNakama agenda

What is her position on the Sunny? She also needs a talent.

And don't forget the sad backstory!