General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
@King4nakama where you at? 
Stussy needs to actually do something. I can't begin to get behind her as a potential strawhat when she's so passive a player in the arc.
The comparable Strawhat to her is Nico Robin. Mysterious member of a rival organization that we're introduced to earlier than the arc she joins who you can't be sure of their aligence until later.
Stussy's big problem however is that nothing she's done so far has made a major impact on the strawhats. She's not given us an igaram moment or substantial playful banter with the crew yet.
The comparable Strawhat to her is Nico Robin. Mysterious member of a rival organization that we're introduced to earlier than the arc she joins who you can't be sure of their aligence until later.
Stussy's big problem however is that nothing she's done so far has made a major impact on the strawhats. She's not given us an igaram moment or substantial playful banter with the crew yet.
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What did she do in Wano that tells you she's gonna join at all?
Lucci and Caribou are more believable candidates rn
Lucci and Caribou are more believable candidates rn
Really well said, if you really consider the grand scheme of things in Wano she's honestly comparable with the other straw hats in terms of depiction
On Onigashima she helped Nami with getting out of the homie situation
Saved Marco by attacking Perospero
Then fought Perospero and stalled him from going into Onigashima sooner than he would have otherwise
Take Carrot out and have no one save Marco or stall Perospero and it becomes a full on massacre
There's some stuff like how she was there with the crew listening to Oden's story as well that adds to things.
And honestly, the fact that we did not see her when the Strawhats left Wano is seriously understated
Was that not a perfect moment to throw Carrot fans a bone and say she's a crewmate like he did with Yamato, Tama, Kin, and Momo and let things rest there?
Would it not have been easy it simply add Carrot to the ending there in any capacity, even just a simple smiling panel to show that she is indeed staying behind to go to Zou?
Could Oda have not drawn a simple text bubble of Carrot saying "Yes I'll do it" in response during that scene in 1056? If he did it for Yamato he could've done it here as well.
Then he goes on to have those little rabbit hints as you said (That turbine was so blatant) and put her in the middle of the volume cover. Which was not related to the Zodiac year cause the 2005 one was in the year of the horse and during Oda's draft of 105 he put the goat in first but choose to put Carrot in instead.
Like why do all this if he's just gonna reveal something that could've been done so easily in the first place?
Why make it so weirdly open ended if he doesn't have anything planned for it?
On Onigashima she helped Nami with getting out of the homie situation
Saved Marco by attacking Perospero
Then fought Perospero and stalled him from going into Onigashima sooner than he would have otherwise
Take Carrot out and have no one save Marco or stall Perospero and it becomes a full on massacre
There's some stuff like how she was there with the crew listening to Oden's story as well that adds to things.
And honestly, the fact that we did not see her when the Strawhats left Wano is seriously understated
Was that not a perfect moment to throw Carrot fans a bone and say she's a crewmate like he did with Yamato, Tama, Kin, and Momo and let things rest there?
Would it not have been easy it simply add Carrot to the ending there in any capacity, even just a simple smiling panel to show that she is indeed staying behind to go to Zou?
Could Oda have not drawn a simple text bubble of Carrot saying "Yes I'll do it" in response during that scene in 1056? If he did it for Yamato he could've done it here as well.
Then he goes on to have those little rabbit hints as you said (That turbine was so blatant) and put her in the middle of the volume cover. Which was not related to the Zodiac year cause the 2005 one was in the year of the horse and during Oda's draft of 105 he put the goat in first but choose to put Carrot in instead.
Like why do all this if he's just gonna reveal something that could've been done so easily in the first place?
Why make it so weirdly open ended if he doesn't have anything planned for it?
Firstly what focus? That fight got off screened only in the anime did you see anything from it, secondly that wasn't even her fight that was Neko's. Man did what she couldn't in a 2v1.
Pedro's will didn't amount to dick, we don't even know what that is.
Because of a creepy ass editor that wanted to have children with her
And what happened after he stepped down again? She goes into irrelevancy her only meaningful cotribute to the raid is getting offscreened and rescued.
She replaced Sengoku's goat in 105 to keep a gag going, and a huge reach there claiming all the rabbit references were for her. Also bold of you to assume that isn't anything other than Oda trolling her fans.
This I agree with and I've been very open about this. What happened to Carrot at the end was a tragedy, clearly Oda had no actual plans for her but he saw the worldwide popularity poll and knew he couldn't silently get rid of her.
No build up to her being queen
Didn't lead shit during the raid
Was denied revenge for Pedro
The minks all agree she's not qualified for several parts of the role but gaslight her into anyway.
But Oda did it anyway because how else can he excuse bringing her back for the final war.
The weird ass ending hers isn't alluding to her joining the crew I can't for the life of me see why people still believe this. Everyone was so convinced she ran away from her duties and hid in a barrel, and that straight up never happened.
Pedro's will didn't amount to dick, we don't even know what that is.
Because of a creepy ass editor that wanted to have children with her
And what happened after he stepped down again? She goes into irrelevancy her only meaningful cotribute to the raid is getting offscreened and rescued.
She replaced Sengoku's goat in 105 to keep a gag going, and a huge reach there claiming all the rabbit references were for her. Also bold of you to assume that isn't anything other than Oda trolling her fans.
This I agree with and I've been very open about this. What happened to Carrot at the end was a tragedy, clearly Oda had no actual plans for her but he saw the worldwide popularity poll and knew he couldn't silently get rid of her.
No build up to her being queen
Didn't lead shit during the raid
Was denied revenge for Pedro
The minks all agree she's not qualified for several parts of the role but gaslight her into anyway.
But Oda did it anyway because how else can he excuse bringing her back for the final war.
The weird ass ending hers isn't alluding to her joining the crew I can't for the life of me see why people still believe this. Everyone was so convinced she ran away from her duties and hid in a barrel, and that straight up never happened.
Really well said, if you really consider the grand scheme of things in Wano she's honestly comparable with the other straw hats in terms of depiction
On Onigashima she helped Nami with getting out of the homie situation
Saved Marco by attacking Perospero
Then fought Perospero and stalled him from going into Onigashima sooner than he would have otherwise
Take Carrot out and have no one save Marco or stall Perospero and it becomes a full on massacre
There's some stuff like how she was there with the crew listening to Oden's story as well that adds to things.
And honestly, the fact that we did not see her when the Strawhats left Wano is seriously understated
Was that not a perfect moment to throw Carrot fans a bone and say she's a crewmate like he did with Yamato, Tama, Kin, and Momo and let things rest there?
Would it not have been easy it simply add Carrot to the ending there in any capacity, even just a simple smiling panel to show that she is indeed staying behind to go to Zou?
Could Oda have not drawn a simple text bubble of Carrot saying "Yes I'll do it" in response during that scene in 1056? If he did it for Yamato he could've done it here as well.
Then he goes on to have those little rabbit hints as you said (That turbine was so blatant) and put her in the middle of the volume cover. Which was not related to the Zodiac year cause the 2005 one was in the year of the horse and during Oda's draft of 105 he put the goat in first but choose to put Carrot in instead.
Like why do all this if he's just gonna reveal something that could've been done so easily in the first place?
Why make it so weirdly open ended if he doesn't have anything planned for it?
On Onigashima she helped Nami with getting out of the homie situation
Saved Marco by attacking Perospero
Then fought Perospero and stalled him from going into Onigashima sooner than he would have otherwise
Take Carrot out and have no one save Marco or stall Perospero and it becomes a full on massacre
There's some stuff like how she was there with the crew listening to Oden's story as well that adds to things.
And honestly, the fact that we did not see her when the Strawhats left Wano is seriously understated
Was that not a perfect moment to throw Carrot fans a bone and say she's a crewmate like he did with Yamato, Tama, Kin, and Momo and let things rest there?
Would it not have been easy it simply add Carrot to the ending there in any capacity, even just a simple smiling panel to show that she is indeed staying behind to go to Zou?
Could Oda have not drawn a simple text bubble of Carrot saying "Yes I'll do it" in response during that scene in 1056? If he did it for Yamato he could've done it here as well.
Then he goes on to have those little rabbit hints as you said (That turbine was so blatant) and put her in the middle of the volume cover. Which was not related to the Zodiac year cause the 2005 one was in the year of the horse and during Oda's draft of 105 he put the goat in first but choose to put Carrot in instead.
Like why do all this if he's just gonna reveal something that could've been done so easily in the first place?
Why make it so weirdly open ended if he doesn't have anything planned for it?
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Every time one piece had a boom, it was always substained. So much for having those new fans because wano engagment dropped like a rock. This shit didn't happen after water 7, people wanted more. I keep saying this, after the arc the people will decide rather it worth continuing and the new people that jumped on for the 1000+ chapter celeberation don't give af about one piece. Considering oda being blind by 60, not being able to enjoy a trip with his kids/wife, who are likely enstranged from him I'm not going to be too harsh.
If he is trolling, he going to get very good at it and people around him are going to get just as good at being a dick to him too.
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Firstly what focus? That fight got off screened only in the anime did you see anything from it, secondly that wasn't even her fight that was Neko's. Man did what she couldn't in a 2v1.
Pedro's will didn't amount to dick, we don't even know what that is.
Because of a creepy ass editor that wanted to have children with her
And what happened after he stepped down again? She goes into irrelevancy her only meaningful cotribute to the raid is getting offscreened and rescued.
She replaced Sengoku's goat in 105 to keep a gag going, and a huge reach there claiming all the rabbit references were for her. Also bold of you to assume that isn't anything other than Oda trolling her fans.
This I agree with and I've been very open about this. What happened to Carrot at the end was a tragedy, clearly Oda had no actual plans for her but he saw the worldwide popularity poll and knew he couldn't silently get rid of her.
No build up to her being queen
Didn't lead shit during the raid
Was denied revenge for Pedro
The minks all agree she's not qualified for several parts of the role but gaslight her into anyway.
But Oda did it anyway because how else can he excuse bringing her back for the final war.
The weird ass ending hers isn't alluding to her joining the crew I can't for the life of me see why people still believe this. Everyone was so convinced she ran away from her duties and hid in a barrel, and that straight up never happened.
Pedro's will didn't amount to dick, we don't even know what that is.
Because of a creepy ass editor that wanted to have children with her
And what happened after he stepped down again? She goes into irrelevancy her only meaningful cotribute to the raid is getting offscreened and rescued.
She replaced Sengoku's goat in 105 to keep a gag going, and a huge reach there claiming all the rabbit references were for her. Also bold of you to assume that isn't anything other than Oda trolling her fans.
This I agree with and I've been very open about this. What happened to Carrot at the end was a tragedy, clearly Oda had no actual plans for her but he saw the worldwide popularity poll and knew he couldn't silently get rid of her.
No build up to her being queen
Didn't lead shit during the raid
Was denied revenge for Pedro
The minks all agree she's not qualified for several parts of the role but gaslight her into anyway.
But Oda did it anyway because how else can he excuse bringing her back for the final war.
The weird ass ending hers isn't alluding to her joining the crew I can't for the life of me see why people still believe this. Everyone was so convinced she ran away from her duties and hid in a barrel, and that straight up never happened.
I see it and I don't believe it, a carrot fan saying that and acpeting the true history of his character.
P.S. It's not April Fool's Day, is it?
Firstly what focus? That fight got off screened only in the anime did you see anything from it, secondly that wasn't even her fight that was Neko's. Man did what she couldn't in a 2v1.
Pedro's will didn't amount to dick, we don't even know what that is.
Because of a creepy ass editor that wanted to have children with her
And what happened after he stepped down again? She goes into irrelevancy her only meaningful cotribute to the raid is getting offscreened and rescued.
She replaced Sengoku's goat in 105 to keep a gag going, and a huge reach there claiming all the rabbit references were for her. Also bold of you to assume that isn't anything other than Oda trolling her fans.
This I agree with and I've been very open about this. What happened to Carrot at the end was a tragedy, clearly Oda had no actual plans for her but he saw the worldwide popularity poll and knew he couldn't silently get rid of her.
No build up to her being queen
Didn't lead shit during the raid
Was denied revenge for Pedro
The minks all agree she's not qualified for several parts of the role but gaslight her into anyway.
But Oda did it anyway because how else can he excuse bringing her back for the final war.
The weird ass ending hers isn't alluding to her joining the crew I can't for the life of me see why people still believe this. Everyone was so convinced she ran away from her duties and hid in a barrel, and that straight up never happened.
Pedro's will didn't amount to dick, we don't even know what that is.
Because of a creepy ass editor that wanted to have children with her
And what happened after he stepped down again? She goes into irrelevancy her only meaningful cotribute to the raid is getting offscreened and rescued.
She replaced Sengoku's goat in 105 to keep a gag going, and a huge reach there claiming all the rabbit references were for her. Also bold of you to assume that isn't anything other than Oda trolling her fans.
This I agree with and I've been very open about this. What happened to Carrot at the end was a tragedy, clearly Oda had no actual plans for her but he saw the worldwide popularity poll and knew he couldn't silently get rid of her.
No build up to her being queen
Didn't lead shit during the raid
Was denied revenge for Pedro
The minks all agree she's not qualified for several parts of the role but gaslight her into anyway.
But Oda did it anyway because how else can he excuse bringing her back for the final war.
The weird ass ending hers isn't alluding to her joining the crew I can't for the life of me see why people still believe this. Everyone was so convinced she ran away from her duties and hid in a barrel, and that straight up never happened.
The focus of having a flashback of Pedro's last words? The focus of her going off on her own to fight the man who's responsible for Pedro's death? I don't think y'all understand that Oda highlighted those words for a reason, and it wasn't to Lead Zou Lmao.
We don't know entirely what Pedro's will can do to Carrot and her story. But we know that his will had everything to do with protecting the strawhats and that he wanted to achieve the dawn. That was also the will of the Nox Pirates, which is why Carrot taking Pedro's will is a lot like Jinbei taking Fishertigers will. The will of the Sun Pirates was the same as Fishertiger, and the Will of the Nox Pirates was the same as Pedro.
Ohh yea her only reason for being here is because an editor wanted them to be....? She didn't go back to being Irrelevant lol. Carrot has never been irrelevant, and she stays relevant even today. Oda makes multiple Bunny References throughout the story, and puts her on the cover of 105. You can say it's just a funny way to replace the Goat, but it still highlights her. The best part is that during 1056, she's the only one who didn't get their ending complete lmao. So why would Oda put her there? Why not Yamato in Dog form? Or Momo in Dragon form? It wasn't the Goat Year when the Goat was put there, so why is Carrot the one put there?
"Clearly Oda had no actual plans for her" shocking how many times y'all wanna speak for Oda. Stop doing this. You aren't him. Everything I believe is from what Oda has already shown us, not from your random nonsense trying to get justified with "Oda just doesn't care!" Like girl give it a break.
People believe she's joining because she has to? There's no other way for her character to go lmao. In the end, Carrot will become an official strawhat and will be there when Luffy becomes the Pirate King. Pedro's will set this up, and Oda actually did that and wrote that down. I'm not taking that from nowhere. He put it into his story for a reason, and it's not so she can do the job Wanda and Shishillian clearly got set up for (both were leaders during Zou and Wano). So please, read the story boo. It ain't rocket science.
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Really well said, if you really consider the grand scheme of things in Wano she's honestly comparable with the other straw hats in terms of depiction
On Onigashima she helped Nami with getting out of the homie situation
Saved Marco by attacking Perospero
Then fought Perospero and stalled him from going into Onigashima sooner than he would have otherwise
Take Carrot out and have no one save Marco or stall Perospero and it becomes a full on massacre
There's some stuff like how she was there with the crew listening to Oden's story as well that adds to things.
And honestly, the fact that we did not see her when the Strawhats left Wano is seriously understated
Was that not a perfect moment to throw Carrot fans a bone and say she's a crewmate like he did with Yamato, Tama, Kin, and Momo and let things rest there?
Would it not have been easy it simply add Carrot to the ending there in any capacity, even just a simple smiling panel to show that she is indeed staying behind to go to Zou?
Could Oda have not drawn a simple text bubble of Carrot saying "Yes I'll do it" in response during that scene in 1056? If he did it for Yamato he could've done it here as well.
Then he goes on to have those little rabbit hints as you said (That turbine was so blatant) and put her in the middle of the volume cover. Which was not related to the Zodiac year cause the 2005 one was in the year of the horse and during Oda's draft of 105 he put the goat in first but choose to put Carrot in instead.
Like why do all this if he's just gonna reveal something that could've been done so easily in the first place?
Why make it so weirdly open ended if he doesn't have anything planned for it?
On Onigashima she helped Nami with getting out of the homie situation
Saved Marco by attacking Perospero
Then fought Perospero and stalled him from going into Onigashima sooner than he would have otherwise
Take Carrot out and have no one save Marco or stall Perospero and it becomes a full on massacre
There's some stuff like how she was there with the crew listening to Oden's story as well that adds to things.
And honestly, the fact that we did not see her when the Strawhats left Wano is seriously understated
Was that not a perfect moment to throw Carrot fans a bone and say she's a crewmate like he did with Yamato, Tama, Kin, and Momo and let things rest there?
Would it not have been easy it simply add Carrot to the ending there in any capacity, even just a simple smiling panel to show that she is indeed staying behind to go to Zou?
Could Oda have not drawn a simple text bubble of Carrot saying "Yes I'll do it" in response during that scene in 1056? If he did it for Yamato he could've done it here as well.
Then he goes on to have those little rabbit hints as you said (That turbine was so blatant) and put her in the middle of the volume cover. Which was not related to the Zodiac year cause the 2005 one was in the year of the horse and during Oda's draft of 105 he put the goat in first but choose to put Carrot in instead.
Like why do all this if he's just gonna reveal something that could've been done so easily in the first place?
Why make it so weirdly open ended if he doesn't have anything planned for it?