Who will be the next SH?

  • Bonney

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Carrot

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kinemon

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Smoker

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tashigi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No one else. Crew's full

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    13
I think what we all can agree on are the below points:
  1. having a dream or goal
  2. Having a sad past (this is something that all of them have) this needs to be hinted before joining not necessarily explored
  3. Having a special talent(this can also be derived later) cook, sniper, swordsman, navigator, archaeologist, etc.
No. For a reason:
1. I agree on this one. Altough dream is not the right term, desire is more appropriate. Indeed some characters may have strong desire but never says the word "dream" or "goal". What they say is "I want"
2. This one we don't quite agree. For a simple reason: The past is just a tool to explain the story in the simplest way. Nothing tells us in the story that what the strawhat have experienced can't be done in the present of the story. That's why I used the system of Desire and need.

BUT

I can accept to add the pillar "Lived a Tragedy" this actually don't refer to the past and can be applied to the present of the story.

3. The special talent is to vague. The talent of the strawhats is always related to a post and a thematic in the story. That's why the term "post" for a pillar is more appropriated.

Luffy liking you 35%
dream 25%
sad past 20%
Like I said previously, you can't put "Luffy liking you (and the term is too vague)" at the top, too many character have this parameters, it would simply render the parameter meaningless. Its important, but not as much as a post.


talent 10% (I don’t put much importance on this because Oda can always make something up if he really want a character that he likes to join the strawhats)
No he can't. You can't just "invent" a post for a character. A post and a skill is something that is prepared YEARS in advance and is related to the nature, characterization and thematic of the character. This is why its absolutely necessary that it goes on top.

Your % system is not that bad, I actually like it.

Ok I'll change the Pillar in fonction and add those we talked about. Which are "The tragedy" and "the double link" (A link Character to Luffy and Luffy to character)

I will also get rid of the fighting skill pillars. After consideration, all the character with one exception (vegapunk) have a capacity for battle, render this parameter useless.
 
@Monkey D Al

Ok, i've rewritten the Pillar in fonction of our discussion and your advice and here is what we have now with pourcentage this time:

  • The Antagonistic introduction. 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. 8%
  • A Strong character arc. 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. 10%
  • The Rescue. 11%
  • A Tragedy. 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. 13%
  • The Post. 14%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. 15%

So, we can look at all the character:

SABO
  • The Antagonistic introduction. NONE 0%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. CHECK 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. ONLY HALF 5%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. CHECK 13%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. 0%
SABO reach a 52 %

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STUSSY
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. ONLY HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. UNKNOWN 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

STUSSY reach a 12 % - This could change real quick

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LILITH
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. ONLY HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. POTENTIALITY ONLY HALF 7%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
LILITH reach a 19 % - This could change real quick

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BONNEY


  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. ONLY HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. POTENTIALITY 5%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. CHECK 10%
  • The Rescue. POTENTIALITY 5%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

BONNEY reach a 44 % - This could change real quick

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SMOKER
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. NONE 0%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. CHECK 10%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

SMOKER reach a 18%

-----

KIZARU

  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. NONE 0%
  • The Symbolic reach. HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

KIZARU reach a 7%

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LUCCI
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. NONE 0%
  • The Symbolic reach. NONE 0%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

LUCCI reach a 3%

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YAMATO

  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. CHECK 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. CHECK 10%
  • The Rescue. ONLY HALF 5%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. CHECK 13%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
YAMATO reach a 65%

-----

And now

CARROT

  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. ONLY HALF 4%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. ONLY HALF 5%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. ONLY HALF 6%
  • The Post. CHECK 14%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. CHECK 15%

CARROT reach a 72%


HERE ARE THE RECAP OF THE RESULTS BY PROBABILITY OF JOINING:

LUCCI 3%
KIZARU 7%
STUSSY 12 % - This could change real quick
SMOKER 18%
LILITH 19 % - This could change real quick
BONNEY 44 % - This could change real quick
SABO 52 %
YAMATO 65%
CARROT 72%

This doesn't take into account that LUCCI, KIZARU, SMOKER and SABO don't pass the 5 golden rules. And doesn't take into account that the desire and needs of Yamato have already been resolved.

Carrot is still ahead, but Stussy Bonney and Lilith could surprise us
 
@Monkey D Al

Ok, i've rewritten the Pillar in fonction of our discussion and your advice and here is what we have now with pourcentage this time:

  • The Antagonistic introduction. 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. 8%
  • A Strong character arc. 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. 10%
  • The Rescue. 11%
  • A Tragedy. 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. 13%
  • The Post. 14%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. 15%

So, we can look at all the character:

SABO
  • The Antagonistic introduction. NONE 0%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. CHECK 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. ONLY HALF 5%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. CHECK 13%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. 0%
SABO reach a 52 %

-----

STUSSY
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. ONLY HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. UNKNOWN 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

STUSSY reach a 12 % - This could change real quick

-----

LILITH
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. ONLY HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. POTENTIALITY ONLY HALF 7%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
LILITH reach a 19 % - This could change real quick

-----

BONNEY

  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. ONLY HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. POTENTIALITY 5%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. CHECK 10%
  • The Rescue. POTENTIALITY 5%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

BONNEY reach a 44 % - This could change real quick

-----

SMOKER
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. NONE 0%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. CHECK 10%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

SMOKER reach a 18%

-----

KIZARU

  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. NONE 0%
  • The Symbolic reach. HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

KIZARU reach a 7%

-----

LUCCI
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. NONE 0%
  • The Symbolic reach. NONE 0%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

LUCCI reach a 3%

-----

YAMATO

  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. CHECK 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. CHECK 10%
  • The Rescue. ONLY HALF 5%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. CHECK 13%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
YAMATO reach a 65%

-----

And now

CARROT

  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. ONLY HALF 4%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. ONLY HALF 5%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. ONLY HALF 6%
  • The Post. CHECK 14%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. CHECK 15%

CARROT reach a 72%


HERE ARE THE RECAP OF THE RESULTS BY PROBABILITY OF JOINING:

LUCCI 3%
KIZARU 7%
STUSSY 12 % - This could change real quick
SMOKER 18%
LILITH 19 % - This could change real quick
BONNEY 44 % - This could change real quick
SABO 52 %
YAMATO 65%
CARROT 72%

This doesn't take into account that LUCCI, KIZARU, SMOKER and SABO don't pass the 5 golden rules. And doesn't take into account that the desire and needs of Yamato have already been resolved.

Carrot is still ahead, but Stussy Bonney and Lilith could surprise us
Here is a fluffy surprise pillar
 
@Monkey D Al

Ok, i've rewritten the Pillar in fonction of our discussion and your advice and here is what we have now with pourcentage this time:

  • The Antagonistic introduction. 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. 8%
  • A Strong character arc. 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. 10%
  • The Rescue. 11%
  • A Tragedy. 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. 13%
  • The Post. 14%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. 15%

So, we can look at all the character:

SABO
  • The Antagonistic introduction. NONE 0%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. CHECK 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. ONLY HALF 5%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. CHECK 13%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. 0%
SABO reach a 52 %

-----

STUSSY
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. ONLY HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. UNKNOWN 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

STUSSY reach a 12 % - This could change real quick

-----

LILITH
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. ONLY HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. POTENTIALITY ONLY HALF 7%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
LILITH reach a 19 % - This could change real quick

-----

BONNEY

  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. ONLY HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. POTENTIALITY 5%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. CHECK 10%
  • The Rescue. POTENTIALITY 5%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

BONNEY reach a 44 % - This could change real quick

-----

SMOKER
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. NONE 0%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. CHECK 10%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

SMOKER reach a 18%

-----

KIZARU

  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. NONE 0%
  • The Symbolic reach. HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

KIZARU reach a 7%

-----

LUCCI
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. NONE 0%
  • The Symbolic reach. NONE 0%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%

LUCCI reach a 3%

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YAMATO

  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. CHECK 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. CHECK 10%
  • The Rescue. ONLY HALF 5%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. CHECK 13%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
YAMATO reach a 65%

-----

And now

CARROT

  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. ONLY HALF 4%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. ONLY HALF 5%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. ONLY HALF 6%
  • The Post. CHECK 14%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. CHECK 15%

CARROT reach a 72%


HERE ARE THE RECAP OF THE RESULTS BY PROBABILITY OF JOINING:

LUCCI 3%
KIZARU 7%
STUSSY 12 % - This could change real quick
SMOKER 18%
LILITH 19 % - This could change real quick
BONNEY 44 % - This could change real quick
SABO 52 %
YAMATO 65%
CARROT 72%

This doesn't take into account that LUCCI, KIZARU, SMOKER and SABO don't pass the 5 golden rules. And doesn't take into account that the desire and needs of Yamato have already been resolved.

Carrot is still ahead, but Stussy Bonney and Lilith could surprise us
The fact that Kizaru gets a score above zero should tell you this list is useless.
 
The fact that Kizaru gets a score above zero should tell you this list is useless.
He gets 7, that's nothing.


I'm still wondering how Carrot gets a 4 and Yamato an 8...
It's all just arbitrary numbering...
Simply because both had a form of character arc, but the one of Carrot was not as strong as the one of Yamato, much less tension were involve into the final choice.

So Carrot gets half the point compared to Yamato for the character arc.

As for the driving forces. Yamato had both (even tho they have been resolved now) and Carrot don't have a strong desire, just a need. SO she gets half the points as well.
Same for the Nakama link. Where Yamato gets all the points because Luffy actually aknowledge her and invited her if she wanted to come, he didn't do that for Carrot, so Carrot gets half the points too here..


And Lucci gets 3. :josad:
SOrry bro.. the fact are talking. And Lucci doesn't even pass the 5 golden rules so he is really screwed.
 
He gets 7, that's nothing.



Simply because both had a form of character arc, but the one of Carrot was not as strong as the one of Yamato, much less tension were involve into the final choice.

So Carrot gets half the point compared to Yamato for the character arc.

As for the driving forces. Yamato had both (even tho they have been resolved now) and Carrot don't have a strong desire, just a need. SO she gets half the points as well.
Same for the Nakama link. Where Yamato gets all the points because Luffy actually aknowledge her and invited her if she wanted to come, he didn't do that for Carrot, so Carrot gets half the points too here..



SOrry bro.. the fact are talking. And Lucci doesn't even pass the 5 golden rules so he is really screwed.
7 is not nothing. Kizaru is one of the Admirals.:sus:

He isn’t joining. There’s no way.
 
The fact that Kizaru gets a score above zero should tell you this list is useless.
As long as the antagonistic introduction pillar is there almost everyone will get at least some points. Thats why a check list system is not gonna work. Actually no system will work. For me theorizing here who will join is mostly for fun. After Yamato the chances that someone will joined dropped to below 5%
 
BONCLAY
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. CHECK 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. CHECK 11%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. CHECK 13%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
Okay you lost me here. Bonclay is a Nakama at heart. The only thing he needs is escape from impel down.
BTW. Bonclay does not need “the rescue” he is the rescuer
 
Let's have fun with other characters:

Let's start with a very special case (you'll be surprised)

BOA
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. ONLY HALF 4%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. ONLY HALF 5%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. CHECK 13%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
BOA reaches a very good 50% (mainly because she is in love with Luffy)

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AKAINU (He doesn't pass at all the 5 golden rules but just to test a little bit the marines)
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. NONE 0%
  • The Symbolic reach. ONLY HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. ONLY HALF 5%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. NONE 0%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
AKAINU reaches a 12% - Its impossible of course, this is for the experiment.

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LAW
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. CHECK 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. ONLY HALF 5%
  • The Rescue. ONLY HALF 5%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. ONLY HALF 13%
  • The Post. POTENTIALITY ONLY HALF 7%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
Surprisingly LAW reaches a very good 67%. He is therefore currently superior to Yamato BUT doesn't pass the 5 golden rules. Law is still a captain. Without that, he is very well placed.

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MARCO
  • The Antagonistic introduction. NONE 0%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. NONE 0%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. ONLY HALF 5%
  • The Rescue. NONE 0%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. ONLY HALF 6%
  • The Post. TAKEN 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
MARCO reaches a 36%

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BONCLAY
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. CHECK 8%
  • A Strong character arc. CHECK 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. NONE 0%
  • The Rescue. CHECK 11%
  • A Tragedy. NONE 0%
  • The Double Nakama link. CHECK 13%
  • The Post. NONE 0%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
BONCLAY reaches a 49%

-----

AND NOW.... VIVI
  • The Antagonistic introduction. CHECK 3%
  • The Multi layered characterization. CHECK 5%
  • The Symbolic reach. ONLY HALF 4%
  • A Strong character arc. CHECK 9%
  • Hint of the 2 driving forces. CHECK 10%
  • The Rescue. CHECK 11%
  • A Tragedy. CHECK 12%
  • The Double Nakama link. CHECK 13%
  • The Post. POTENTIALLY ONLY HALF 7%
  • The Shining Nakama Action. NONE 0%
VIVI reaches 74%, YUP, she is 2% OVER Carrot right now. But.. does she pass the 5 golden rules ?


Wouldn’t it make more sense if Lucci was above Kizaru? He’s more likely (but not enough to join) IMO.
Not really. When you analyse a bit the characters. Akainu is a little more interesting narratively than Lucci. The difference is in the desire. While Lucci is only following his mission, Akainu is lead by a sence of his own (twisted) justice. This can create interesting inner conflict for him in the story (something we have already witnessed in fact, when he gets angry). He is also better in term of symbolic reach.

Okay you lost me here. Bonclay is a Nakama at heart. The only thing he needs is escape from impel down.
BTW. Bonclay does not need “the rescue” he is the rescuer
Hehe. Sadly, he lacks a lot of things to become a real crewmate.
 
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