General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
No they are not, those are literally facts of the story mate.
And I only said that Bonney and her Dad could seek asylum there. I didn't say that she would necessaraly be safe. (Even if I think she would be tho)
You are telling me that the gov can attack Elbaf despite all the point mentionned above (that are again, literally facts in the manga) showing that it would be unwise strategically to attack Elbaf, its therefore your turn to show me why I'm wrong.
And I only said that Bonney and her Dad could seek asylum there. I didn't say that she would necessaraly be safe. (Even if I think she would be tho)
You are telling me that the gov can attack Elbaf despite all the point mentionned above (that are again, literally facts in the manga) showing that it would be unwise strategically to attack Elbaf, its therefore your turn to show me why I'm wrong.
The only ones of these "facts" that would deter an admiral are "Elbaf is the strongest nation" and "attacking Elbaf is attacking Shanks". Neither of these are true. You're just making stuff up to fit your point. If Akainu pulls up to Elbaf, no giant is stopping him. There's no evidence that a mother flame wouldn't work on Elbaf either, you just pulled that out of your ass. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim, but as always, you think the second you spout some headcannon nonsense, the burden of proof is permenantly on the other person.
You not caring about dictionary definitions is not conducive to your argument. Sentry is a synonym for Guard. Period.
You are making up a post in the story to fit your agenda rather than use what the story has given you.
There are no characters introduced as "Lookout" or "Sentry" in One Piece. These are the facts.
You claim Carrot to potentially be a Sentry in a ship but not be a Ship Guard. The reason being your own definition that a Ship Guard MUST stay on the ship 24/7 or they are a bad guardian while a Sentry has the freedom to leave. So by what I understand from you is a Sentry is a Ship Guard with freedom.
But if Oda does not restrict a Ship Guard solely to a ship at all times, then Sentry holds no weight as an introbox position Ship Guard covers the Sentry's responsibilities.
Inheriting a Will through a Devil Fruit is both physical and metaphorical. Sabo literally bit the Flame Flame Fruit to inherit Ace's powers and to step back into the big brother role to Luffy like Ace was before his death.
The Ship Guard covers the extended post.
A Lookout is a Ship Guard as they protect the ship from dangers outside of the ship.
A Sentry is a synonym for Lookout which also means a Sentry on a ship is a Ship Guard.
Even a Ship's Cat is a Ship Guard. They protect the ship from rodents.
Sentry is not pertinent as it does not exist in One Piece to this date. Only in your mind. Ship Guard however has relevance simply because it was written in One Piece by Oda.
You are making up a post in the story to fit your agenda rather than use what the story has given you.
There are no characters introduced as "Lookout" or "Sentry" in One Piece. These are the facts.
You claim Carrot to potentially be a Sentry in a ship but not be a Ship Guard. The reason being your own definition that a Ship Guard MUST stay on the ship 24/7 or they are a bad guardian while a Sentry has the freedom to leave. So by what I understand from you is a Sentry is a Ship Guard with freedom.
But if Oda does not restrict a Ship Guard solely to a ship at all times, then Sentry holds no weight as an introbox position Ship Guard covers the Sentry's responsibilities.
Inheriting a Will through a Devil Fruit is both physical and metaphorical. Sabo literally bit the Flame Flame Fruit to inherit Ace's powers and to step back into the big brother role to Luffy like Ace was before his death.
The Ship Guard covers the extended post.
guard
1 of 2noun
ˈgärd
Synonyms of guard
1: one assigned to protect or oversee another: such as
a: a person or a body of persons on sentinel duty
Guards were posted around the camp.
b
guards plural : troops attached to the person of the sovereign
c
British : CONDUCTOR sense b
2
a: a defensive state or attitude
asked him out when his guard was down
b: a defensive position (as in boxing)
3
a: the act or duty of protecting or defending
b: the state of being protected : PROTECTION
4
: a protective or safety device
specifically : a device for protecting a machine part or the operator of a machine
5
archaic : PRECAUTION
6
a: a position or player next to the center in a football line
b: a player stationed in the backcourt in basketball
1 of 2noun
ˈgärd
Synonyms of guard
1: one assigned to protect or oversee another: such as
a: a person or a body of persons on sentinel duty
Guards were posted around the camp.
b
guards plural : troops attached to the person of the sovereign
c
British : CONDUCTOR sense b
2
a: a defensive state or attitude
asked him out when his guard was down
b: a defensive position (as in boxing)
3
a: the act or duty of protecting or defending
b: the state of being protected : PROTECTION
4
: a protective or safety device
specifically : a device for protecting a machine part or the operator of a machine
5
archaic : PRECAUTION
6
a: a position or player next to the center in a football line
b: a player stationed in the backcourt in basketball
lookout
/loo͝k′out″/
noun
1. The act of observing or keeping watch.
2. A high place or structure commanding a wide view, used for observation.
3. One who keeps watch.
4. Outlook; view.
5. An object of concern or worry.
6. A careful looking or watching for any object or event.
7. The place from which such observation is made.
8. A person engaged in watching; a sentinel; a sentry.
Similar: sentinelsentry
9. Object or duty of forethought and care; responsibility.
Similar: responsibility
/loo͝k′out″/
noun
1. The act of observing or keeping watch.
2. A high place or structure commanding a wide view, used for observation.
3. One who keeps watch.
4. Outlook; view.
5. An object of concern or worry.
6. A careful looking or watching for any object or event.
7. The place from which such observation is made.
8. A person engaged in watching; a sentinel; a sentry.
Similar: sentinelsentry
9. Object or duty of forethought and care; responsibility.
Similar: responsibility
The ship's cat has been a common feature on many trading, exploration, and naval ships dating to ancient times. Cats have been brought on ships for many reasons, most importantly to control rodents. Vermin aboard a ship can cause damage to ropes, woodwork, and more recently, electrical wiring. In addition, rodents threaten ships' stores, devour crews' foodstuff, and can cause economic damage to ships' cargo, such as grain.
Cats naturally attack and kill rodents[3] and adapt to new surroundings, which makes them suitable for service on a ship. In addition, they offer companionship and a sense of home, security and camaraderie to sailors away from home.
Cats naturally attack and kill rodents[3] and adapt to new surroundings, which makes them suitable for service on a ship. In addition, they offer companionship and a sense of home, security and camaraderie to sailors away from home.
A Sentry is a synonym for Lookout which also means a Sentry on a ship is a Ship Guard.
Even a Ship's Cat is a Ship Guard. They protect the ship from rodents.
Sentry is not pertinent as it does not exist in One Piece to this date. Only in your mind. Ship Guard however has relevance simply because it was written in One Piece by Oda.
Again, I never invent things when it comes to One Piece. I always base my reasonning on narrative facts.
Yup, and as I explained, I gave you the point proving my point.
The only question mark is the motherflame:
It could work, but looking at the facts of the story, the weapon not working is not an impossibility. Simple narrative logic.
You are right on the fact that I extend the post of Carrot, in reality, I should only call this post "lookout" as 888 is focused on the post.
But looking at the end of the chapter, this extention is needed. And its coherent with the job of Carrot on Zou.
Not officially no. But there is no need for a role to be officialy stated in the story for a strawhat to get the post.
Indeed, to be a ship guard, Carrot would need to be able to split in two entity. One staying on the ship, one going on the adventure.
A sentry is simply a Sentinelle + a Lookout. Its the closest things you have of the job of Carrot. It has specificities of a guard but its not a shipguard. Its a lookout that can be mobile and go in ennemy territory if a danger approach.
No. Again Sentry =/= ship guard.
Metaphorical yes, physical, no.
lol no
No only. Its more than that.
Again, its not because a post hasn't been officially stated that its not pertinent.
Yup, and as I explained, I gave you the point proving my point.
The only question mark is the motherflame:
It could work, but looking at the facts of the story, the weapon not working is not an impossibility. Simple narrative logic.
You are right on the fact that I extend the post of Carrot, in reality, I should only call this post "lookout" as 888 is focused on the post.
But looking at the end of the chapter, this extention is needed. And its coherent with the job of Carrot on Zou.
Not officially no. But there is no need for a role to be officialy stated in the story for a strawhat to get the post.
Indeed, to be a ship guard, Carrot would need to be able to split in two entity. One staying on the ship, one going on the adventure.
A sentry is simply a Sentinelle + a Lookout. Its the closest things you have of the job of Carrot. It has specificities of a guard but its not a shipguard. Its a lookout that can be mobile and go in ennemy territory if a danger approach.
No. Again Sentry =/= ship guard.
Metaphorical yes, physical, no.
lol no
No only. Its more than that.
Again, its not because a post hasn't been officially stated that its not pertinent.
Again, I never invent things when it comes to One Piece. I always base my reasonning on narrative facts.
Yup, and as I explained, I gave you the point proving my point.
The only question mark is the motherflame:
It could work, but looking at the facts of the story, the weapon not working is not an impossibility. Simple narrative logic.
You are right on the fact that I extend the post of Carrot, in reality, I should only call this post "lookout" as 888 is focused on the post.
But looking at the end of the chapter, this extention is needed. And its coherent with the job of Carrot on Zou.
Not officially no. But there is no need for a role to be officialy stated in the story for a strawhat to get the post.
Indeed, to be a ship guard, Carrot would need to be able to split in two entity. One staying on the ship, one going on the adventure.
A sentry is simply a Sentinelle + a Lookout. Its the closest things you have of the job of Carrot. It has specificities of a guard but its not a shipguard. Its a lookout that can be mobile and go in ennemy territory if a danger approach.
No. Again Sentry =/= ship guard.
Metaphorical yes, physical, no.
lol no
No only. Its more than that.
Again, its not because a post hasn't been officially stated that its not pertinent.
Yup, and as I explained, I gave you the point proving my point.
The only question mark is the motherflame:
It could work, but looking at the facts of the story, the weapon not working is not an impossibility. Simple narrative logic.
You are right on the fact that I extend the post of Carrot, in reality, I should only call this post "lookout" as 888 is focused on the post.
But looking at the end of the chapter, this extention is needed. And its coherent with the job of Carrot on Zou.
Not officially no. But there is no need for a role to be officialy stated in the story for a strawhat to get the post.
Indeed, to be a ship guard, Carrot would need to be able to split in two entity. One staying on the ship, one going on the adventure.
A sentry is simply a Sentinelle + a Lookout. Its the closest things you have of the job of Carrot. It has specificities of a guard but its not a shipguard. Its a lookout that can be mobile and go in ennemy territory if a danger approach.
No. Again Sentry =/= ship guard.
Metaphorical yes, physical, no.
lol no
No only. Its more than that.
Again, its not because a post hasn't been officially stated that its not pertinent.
Yes, that's precisely what this line implies. Shanks literally lost an arm to save Luffy, there is no reason to think that he wouldn't come to save the giant even if there is a greater force at play (which is debatable btw)
Which is non relevant to begin with. Bonney and her Dad wouldn't be safer on the Sunny than on Elbaf. The motherflame seems to be mobile and can annihilate an enormous zone at once. If Imu wishes to annihilate the Island where the strawhats are standing on, they can do it no matter.
What I say is that Vegapunk is used to make failsafe in his inventions, so its not impossible at all that he installed one on the motherflame.
Which is non relevant to begin with. Bonney and her Dad wouldn't be safer on the Sunny than on Elbaf. The motherflame seems to be mobile and can annihilate an enormous zone at once. If Imu wishes to annihilate the Island where the strawhats are standing on, they can do it no matter.
What I say is that Vegapunk is used to make failsafe in his inventions, so its not impossible at all that he installed one on the motherflame.
Well in the bright side, now we know the fruit not related to bear motif, so the chance that its indeed connected to lili and the reason why seacat is sacred become more plausible~
Lili and the Paw Paw
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