General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[ShiShiShi]

We're on a public board full of speculating people. Some of the most noisy asshats who claimed to know the future like god shat a perfectly clear vision of the future into their dreams got their shit ass blasted, Where were you then? You play favorites and act like a loser when people say things you don't like. I don't give af if you're tired of it, you should have been tired but suddenly you got the enegry to tell me off. Cry about it hypocrite.

Bepo and green bull seem like prime canidates. The crew was support to have a botanist in the rough draft. Maybe we finally getting one.

You haven’t been around me often, I can tell.

I don’t play favorites, I go by how the story is written and make speculations off of that. I thought that’s how most people did it?

Take this theory, for example:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1582319760624463873

I haven’t talked to you often within the past month and yet you act like you can read me like a book? Don’t make assumptions about who I am when you haven’t gotten to know me first.

I’m telling you that those two characters logically don’t make sense. Bepo loves his captain and Greenbull is an Admiral. Don’t act like a pompous jerk over something so questionable. You “having your reasons” isn’t good enough if you can’t supply a freaking valid argument.

If this is a public board, then I should also have the ability to critique people’s speculations as well. You’re not entitled to having everyone agree with you without questioning. Expect people to ask “Why do you think this?” “How does this make sense?”

If you can’t deal with a few people disagreeing with you, then you should take a break from this forum. I seem to recall saying that same exact thing to someone about a month ago…

 

[Carrota Guco]

Translation

I think I'm right and I get mad because I think you're wrong.

See that your problem. You're like a yamato fan. Just thinking your views are all perfect and logical then being wrong. I'm so bored with you, later. I can disagree with people and move on, I even listen to them. Some people have interesting points but I'm not listening to you. Bye

 

[ShiShiShi]

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See that your problem. You're like a yamato fan. Just thinking your views are all perfect and logical then being wrong. I'm so bored with you, later. I can disagree with people and move on, I even listen to them. Some people have interesting points but I'm not listening to you. Bye

The fact that you give up so easily on people simply because they can’t understand what you’re saying is proof that you‘re incapable of having a civil conversation. Did you read the entire post, or did you only read the first line?

Do you always run away like this when someone doesn’t agree with you? Quit acting childish and grow up.

The way you act is enough to almost ruin anyone’s day.

 

[Warback]

Most Carrotards and some Yamatards can't seem to move on... They are Paulietards reincarnates of this generation...

Yeah as oposed to literally everyone on this list who have existed for YEARS and have literally never showned any inclination of being SHs candidates.


But Yamatard hasn't been around for 3 chapters MOVE ON.

 

[Peppercore]

daily reminder that i like carrot, she's very cute and her last words on panel being pedro is shit writing

 

[Kurozumi D. Trussop]

daily reminder that i like carrot, she's very cute and her last words on panel being pedro is shit writing

Shit writing for a shit character. JK

 

[Connor Kenway]

A question, do you think these points must be fulfilled in order for a candidate to join the crew?

1.- Role on the ship
2.- Request by the character or invitation by Luffy to join the Strawhat.
3.- Have a dream to fulfill.

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See that your problem. You're like a yamato fan. Just thinking your views are all perfect and logical then being wrong. I'm so bored with you, later. I can disagree with people and move on, I even listen to them. Some people have interesting points but I'm not listening to you. Bye

Here is an example of why Carrot's fans continue with their theories that his character is going to join, almost all their theories, Oda himself has trolled them (the one about the barrel, which is hidden) and to finish he puts a turbine with rabbit ears.

 

[Warback]

A question, do you think these points must be fulfilled in order for a candidate to join the crew?

1.- Role on the ship
2.- Request by the character or invitation by Luffy to join the Strawhat.
3.- Have a dream to fulfill.

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1.The role is definetly a must, they can have weird roles, but it's definetly a core characteristic of a SH even when they were anounced as a Yonko crew.
2. That one is kind part for course, like yes there must be an agreement between the crew and the candidate that they will join, not even just Luffy
3. That one has unironically to start to become redudant since every character in OP right now of any importance always has an ambition or goal and so anything can be viewed as a "dream"

Here is an example of why Carrot's fans continue with their theories that his character is going to join, almost all their theories, Oda himself has trolled them (the one about the barrel, which is hidden) and to finish he puts a turbine with rabbit ears.

He didn't even say any theories and it's seems like more of a crackpot theory to think Oda is trolling Carrot fans out of spite i guess, because of some projected hatred of the character.

The weirdest conspiracy theory that Carrot haters have, is that Oda shares their view and hates her, because of barrels or not giving goodbyes or whatever else. It's pure projection that sounds demented when you aplly it to any other character.

Like if i said Oda hates Coby because he got kidnapped by BB or Oda hated Pedro that's why he killed him. It sounds idiotic but with Carrot people like you just repeat that meme

 

[Connor Kenway]

1.The role is definetly a must, they can have weird roles, but it's definetly a core characteristic of a SH even when they were anounced as a Yonko crew.
2. That one is kind part for course, like yes there must be an agreement between the crew and the candidate that they will join, not even just Luffy
3. That one has unironically to start to become redudant since every character in OP right now of any importance always has an ambition or goal and so anything can be viewed as a "dream"






He didn't even say any theories and it's seems like more of a crackpot theory to think Oda is trolling Carrot fans out of spite i guess, because of some projected hatred of the character.

The weirdest conspiracy theory that Carrot haters have, is that Oda shares their view and hates her, because of barrels or not giving goodbyes or whatever else. It's pure projection that sounds demented when you aplly it to any other character.

Like if i said Oda hates Coby because he got kidnapped by BB or Oda hated Pedro that's why he killed him. It sounds idiotic but with Carrot people like you just repeat that meme

And according to what you commented, who of all the candidates meet 100% of the three points and have been shown in the story in the manga, only that they meet all three.

 

[Warback]

And according to what you commented, who of all the candidates meet 100% of the three points and have been shown in the story in the manga, only that they meet all three.

Noone of them have perfectly met the criterias, the closest ones in the last 10 years have been Yamato and vegetable.

Hence why people still talk about them, why noone raves about say Smoker/sabo/Boa either for them or agaisnt them.

If the forbiden 2 we're like 60-70% into being a SH candidate everyone else on the list is at like a 2% to 40% at max

 

[Uncle Van]

A question, do you think these points must be fulfilled in order for a candidate to join the crew?

1.- Role on the ship
2.- Request by the character or invitation by Luffy to join the Strawhat.
3.- Have a dream to fulfill.

Not quite since there is something more important that makes those 3 irrelevant if the candidate lacks it, and that's being the/one of the main characters and driving forces of the arc.

The arc, even thematically, is about the candidate and the main villain, with Luffy getting caught in-between to connect the themes together. They have a problem that Luffy fixes for them by beating the main villain.

Zoro-Axe Hand Morgan
Nami-Arlong
Usopp-Kuro
Sanji-Krieg
Chopper-Wapol
Brooke-Moriah
When he have dual villains, we usually get dual driving forces:
Robin and Franky-Lucci and Spandam
Jinbe and Shirahoshi-Hody and Vander Decken
Momo and Yamato- Kaido and Orochi

Carrot example was never a strong candidate since she's never been a main character and was unimportant thematically in Wano. No villain that Luffy has to beat for her in sight. However, if a candidate has a dream etc. that doesnt require them to leave their home or flat out has to stay, it can end them entirely aka Momo's dream to become the Shogun, and Vivi having no goals outside her kingdom.

 

[Warback]

Not quite since there is something more important that makes those 3 irrelevant if the candidate lacks it, and that's being the/one of the main characters and driving forces of the arc.

The arc, even thematically, is about the candidate and the main villain, with Luffy getting caught in-between to connect the themes together. They have a problem that Luffy fixes for them by beating the main villain.

Zoro-Axe Hand Morgan
Nami-Arlong
Usopp-Kuro
Sanji-Krieg
Chopper-Wapol
Brooke-Moriah
When he have dual villains, we usually get dual driving forces:
Robin and Franky-Lucci and Spandam
Jinbe and Shirahoshi-Hody and Vander Decken
Momo and Yamato- Kaido and Orochi

Carrot example was never a strong candidate since she's never been a main character and was unimportant thematically in Wano. No villain that Luffy has to beat for her in sight. However, if a candidate has a dream etc. that doesnt require them to leave their home or flat out has to stay, it can end them entirely aka Momo's dream to become the Shogun, and Vivi having no goals outside her kingdom.

Or that's just how every standard OP arc goes? Might aswell go:

Vivi- Crocodile
Conis- Enel
Rebeca- Don Flamingo

The SHs in standard arcs always meet someone they associate with and they're connected to the big baddy

 

[Uncle Van]

Or that's just how every standard OP arc goes? Might aswell go:

Vivi- Crocodile
Conis- Enel
Rebeca- Don Flamingo

The SHs in standard arcs always meet someone they associate with and they're connected to the big baddy

And they needs at least that to be a good candidate, just like how literally every SH is a main character and was treated as such. Supporting characters and below aren't on the radar.

 

[Warback]

And they needs at least that to be a good candidate, just like how literally every SH is a main character and was treated as such. Supporting characters and below aren't on the radar.

That's just your own personal opinion, i can just say every SH candidate needs to have a role and to have at least hints at it or they don't even break good candidate territory.

Furthermore by your own logic Connis is a better candidate than Yamato was, because she was much more the focus of the SHs while sharing the same big baddy opressing all of the island routine.

Every character in Wano suffered under Kaido, they all equally get liberated by Luffy defeating him, Tama and Kiku and Yamato are in the same boat by that logic because usually the big baddie opresses every primary/secondary/terciary supporting character in an given island.

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Also forgot to add even when you go down the line of each SH, it's not really as rigid

- Zoro was circustancially on that island
- Sanji was completly arbirtarly at the crossfire of some random pirates and had to fight them off
- Nami i agree, she was the culmination of the saga and the start of the sort female princess-esque rescue trope
- Ussop is true to a certain extent
- Chopper is the same
- Robin's enemy is the WG, Luci was jsut the avatar, Robin's enemy wasn't techinically stopped by the end of her arc
- Franky is the same, Spandam was an enemy purely in name, it's CP9 and the WG who were the real villains
- Brook same as Ussop/chopper
- Jinbei is the worst because Hody Jones wasn't Jinbei's existencial issue, if anything BM was, he was more of a political issue

If you look at Vivi, Rebeca and Nami they fit your mold much better then say Sanji who only incidentally had to fight pirates. Don Krieg has no narrative importance in the life of Sanji, not compared to Vivi /Crocodile, Nami/arlong, Rebbeca/don flamingo.


That's why Nami, Robin, Vivi, Rebecca and Yamato all fit perfectly in a princess of the arc character not necessarily a SH candidate.

Specially Rebbeca and Yamato which only interacted during the entirety of their arcs with Luffy almost exclusively and no other SHs.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Luffy doesn't care about roles... What would be Gaimon's role should he accepted the invitation? Or the zombie tree? Or Yamato?

Gaimon would be the world's greatest treasure chest, not a single gold coin would be pried from his prized green afro.

Trust Gaimon Security: we know chests. We know chest way too well.

 

[Carrota Guco]

A question, do you think these points must be fulfilled in order for a candidate to join the crew?

1.- Role on the ship
2.- Request by the character or invitation by Luffy to join the Strawhat.
3.- Have a dream to fulfill.

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Here is an example of why Carrot's fans continue with their theories that his character is going to join, almost all their theories, Oda himself has trolled them (the one about the barrel, which is hidden) and to finish he puts a turbine with rabbit ears.

I don't know if you're talking to me or the context as it relates to me. Please clarify yourself.

 

[Peppercore]

the era of wano is slowly coming to an end and yet...will 1066 being the chapter. it will bookend 1056 as the 10th chapter since she appeared...

 

[Connor Kenway]

I don't know if you're talking to me or the context as it relates to me. Please clarify yourself.

The first was for the entire forum that wants to respond on the three points and the second if it was for you.

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the era of wano is slowly coming to an end and yet...will 1066 being the chapter. it will bookend 1056 as the 10th chapter since she appeared...

Definitely the mental health, obsession and crazy theories of carrot fans are clearly visible.
I think that until One Piece is over they will continue with each passing chapter of the manga their ideas that she will join will continue.

 

[Carrota Guco]

The first was for the entire forum that wants to respond on the three points and the second if it was for you.

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Definitely the mental health, obsession and crazy theories of carrot fans are clearly visible.
I think that until One Piece is over they will continue with each passing chapter of the manga their ideas that she will join will continue.

I'm not talking about carrot. Why did you bring me up? This the issue I have with this thread and why I justify being cruel. I'm minding my own business and suddenly some dofus comes at me with carrot regardless of the context. This applies to you directly. I was talking about Bepo and Green Bull.

 

[Seatonnes]

I'm not talking about carrot. Why did you bring me up? This the issue I have with this thread and why I justify being cruel. I'm minding my own business and suddenly some dofus comes at me with carrot regardless of the context. This applies to you directly. I was talking about Bepo and Green Bull.

touch grass