General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
As small as our train still is, maybe we can grow in number one day... .
Strategist???
Too many crewmates already that are capable strategists already in the crew. Strategist has not been in an intro box as a position and I doubt Lucci is one of the best strategist in the One Piece world. By the way Jinbe was referring to himself not a new crewmate calmly observing though an additional crewmate who can observe calmly is welcomed.
Lucci was a carpenter for 5 years and is a trained spy assassin. That leaves Lucci qualified as Franky's assistant or...?
The "foreshadowing" you bring up for Lucci is all post-timeskip after his character was already established. Dressrosa, Reverie, and Wano shown his presence in the New World but that didn't hint anything beyond us the audience knowing he will have some relevance. Punk Hazard I would say is the best example of foreshadowing with the mistaken Jaguar called a Leopard (Lucci) and Giraffe (Kaku) centaurs presence BEFORE we knew they were in CP0.
Luffy stating he accept Sanji's wife as a crewmate opened up a crewmate after Jinbe. Yamato AND Tama wanted to join Luffy's crew. You can't state it is specific foreshadowing for Lucci joining but rather a likely open spot is available in the crew.
State whatever "foreshadowing" or "proof" for Lucci you want.
You are just mad that you know deep down Stussy is not joining the Strawhats as a crewmate. Gin is not a more reasonable pick for crewmate than Pedro or most candidates.
Too many crewmates already that are capable strategists already in the crew. Strategist has not been in an intro box as a position and I doubt Lucci is one of the best strategist in the One Piece world. By the way Jinbe was referring to himself not a new crewmate calmly observing though an additional crewmate who can observe calmly is welcomed.
Lucci was a carpenter for 5 years and is a trained spy assassin. That leaves Lucci qualified as Franky's assistant or...?
The "foreshadowing" you bring up for Lucci is all post-timeskip after his character was already established. Dressrosa, Reverie, and Wano shown his presence in the New World but that didn't hint anything beyond us the audience knowing he will have some relevance. Punk Hazard I would say is the best example of foreshadowing with the mistaken Jaguar called a Leopard (Lucci) and Giraffe (Kaku) centaurs presence BEFORE we knew they were in CP0.
Luffy stating he accept Sanji's wife as a crewmate opened up a crewmate after Jinbe. Yamato AND Tama wanted to join Luffy's crew. You can't state it is specific foreshadowing for Lucci joining but rather a likely open spot is available in the crew.
State whatever "foreshadowing" or "proof" for Lucci you want.
Unironically a much more reasonable train than Pedro for nakama 
Strategist???
Too many crewmates already that are capable strategists already in the crew. Strategist has not been in an intro box as a position and I doubt Lucci is one of the best strategist in the One Piece world. By the way Jinbe was referring to himself not a new crewmate calmly observing though an additional crewmate who can observe calmly is welcomed.
Lucci was a carpenter for 5 years and is a trained spy assassin. That leaves Lucci qualified as Franky's assistant or...?
The "foreshadowing" you bring up for Lucci is all post-timeskip after his character was already established. Dressrosa, Reverie, and Wano shown his presence in the New World but that didn't hint anything beyond us the audience knowing he will have some relevance. Punk Hazard I would say is the best example of foreshadowing with the mistaken Jaguar called a Leopard (Lucci) and Giraffe (Kaku) centaurs presence BEFORE we knew they were in CP0.
Luffy stating he accept Sanji's wife as a crewmate opened up a crewmate after Jinbe. Yamato AND Tama wanted to join Luffy's crew. You can't state it is specific foreshadowing for Lucci joining but rather a likely open spot is available in the crew.
State whatever "foreshadowing" or "proof" for Lucci you want.
You are just mad that you know deep down Stussy is not joining the Strawhats as a crewmate. Gin is not a more reasonable pick for crewmate than Pedro or most candidates.
Too many crewmates already that are capable strategists already in the crew. Strategist has not been in an intro box as a position and I doubt Lucci is one of the best strategist in the One Piece world. By the way Jinbe was referring to himself not a new crewmate calmly observing though an additional crewmate who can observe calmly is welcomed.
Lucci was a carpenter for 5 years and is a trained spy assassin. That leaves Lucci qualified as Franky's assistant or...?
The "foreshadowing" you bring up for Lucci is all post-timeskip after his character was already established. Dressrosa, Reverie, and Wano shown his presence in the New World but that didn't hint anything beyond us the audience knowing he will have some relevance. Punk Hazard I would say is the best example of foreshadowing with the mistaken Jaguar called a Leopard (Lucci) and Giraffe (Kaku) centaurs presence BEFORE we knew they were in CP0.
Luffy stating he accept Sanji's wife as a crewmate opened up a crewmate after Jinbe. Yamato AND Tama wanted to join Luffy's crew. You can't state it is specific foreshadowing for Lucci joining but rather a likely open spot is available in the crew.
State whatever "foreshadowing" or "proof" for Lucci you want.
You are just mad that you know deep down Stussy is not joining the Strawhats as a crewmate. Gin is not a more reasonable pick for crewmate than Pedro or most candidates.
Strategist???
Too many crewmates already that are capable strategists already in the crew. Strategist has not been in an intro box as a position and I doubt Lucci is one of the best strategist in the One Piece world. By the way Jinbe was referring to himself not a new crewmate calmly observing though an additional crewmate who can observe calmly is welcomed.
Lucci was a carpenter for 5 years and is a trained spy assassin. That leaves Lucci qualified as Franky's assistant or...?
The "foreshadowing" you bring up for Lucci is all post-timeskip after his character was already established. Dressrosa, Reverie, and Wano shown his presence in the New World but that didn't hint anything beyond us the audience knowing he will have some relevance. Punk Hazard I would say is the best example of foreshadowing with the mistaken Jaguar called a Leopard (Lucci) and Giraffe (Kaku) centaurs presence BEFORE we knew they were in CP0.
Luffy stating he accept Sanji's wife as a crewmate opened up a crewmate after Jinbe. Yamato AND Tama wanted to join Luffy's crew. You can't state it is specific foreshadowing for Lucci joining but rather a likely open spot is available in the crew.
State whatever "foreshadowing" or "proof" for Lucci you want.
You are just mad that you know deep down Stussy is not joining the Strawhats as a crewmate. Gin is not a more reasonable pick for crewmate than Pedro or most candidates.
Too many crewmates already that are capable strategists already in the crew. Strategist has not been in an intro box as a position and I doubt Lucci is one of the best strategist in the One Piece world. By the way Jinbe was referring to himself not a new crewmate calmly observing though an additional crewmate who can observe calmly is welcomed.
Lucci was a carpenter for 5 years and is a trained spy assassin. That leaves Lucci qualified as Franky's assistant or...?
The "foreshadowing" you bring up for Lucci is all post-timeskip after his character was already established. Dressrosa, Reverie, and Wano shown his presence in the New World but that didn't hint anything beyond us the audience knowing he will have some relevance. Punk Hazard I would say is the best example of foreshadowing with the mistaken Jaguar called a Leopard (Lucci) and Giraffe (Kaku) centaurs presence BEFORE we knew they were in CP0.
Luffy stating he accept Sanji's wife as a crewmate opened up a crewmate after Jinbe. Yamato AND Tama wanted to join Luffy's crew. You can't state it is specific foreshadowing for Lucci joining but rather a likely open spot is available in the crew.
State whatever "foreshadowing" or "proof" for Lucci you want.
You are just mad that you know deep down Stussy is not joining the Strawhats as a crewmate. Gin is not a more reasonable pick for crewmate than Pedro or most candidates.
Strategist???
Too many crewmates already that are capable strategists already in the crew.
Too many crewmates already that are capable strategists already in the crew.
The position doesn’t have to be introduced to us in an intro box to be relevant and it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist as you can see with the allys mentioned above. As for Lucci not being a good strategist: Just look at how he figured out that Franky must have the blueprints when CP9 ran into an inpasse in Icebergs bedroom. Their plan altogether was very good and well thought through. He also figured out that, if he flooded the passage, through which Luffy's friends were running towards them, he could take them out at once.
Then look at how he already is laying open just why exactly S-Hawk had left the control room. And right after it, he is the one, who is yelling at Luffy to stop hitting S-Bear and try to think for a moment. I bet he will also be the one, who is going to now come up with a plan to defeat the Seraphim or at least enable them to bind him or something. Lucci is very intelligent and one of the best tacticians Luffy can find.
If he was referring to himself, then he is not doing a good job in observing and strategizing. I haven’t seen Oda clearly highlighting him in that position or at least making an effort to fill out that empty place. This is the reason I think he is not referring to himself at all.
Oda has always highlighted the specific strength of each Straw hat before they joined Luffy. With Franky you just knew he was a good Shipwright and good with tech. Nami was good in drawing maps, etc.. Now, if you look at Lucci, the first thing that comes to mind is how dangerous he is. And what makes him that dangerous? Not only his bodily strength – but also because of his cunning nature. He is always cooking and doing that really good even in the battle with Luffy in Enies Lobby.
If he was to join the SHP, his intellect would by far overshadow his knowledge as a carpenter.
Of course it is after timeskip. Because now this is the time when Oda needs to bring him up again. What purpose would it have done if he did it before ts? He was also on the run then. And it makes me very curious as to why he rejoined the WG. Because we know that Who's Who was imprisoned for failing a mission - Lucci not. He got even promoted.
Oda did something very important with all of Lucci’s short appearances: He did give us an overall view of the characters main aspects. We know how Lucci thinks and where Lucci stands in the story. This is very important if you want to take the character and develop it. Because you cannot develop a character, whose mindset is not knows to the audience.
By the way – have you noticed something? Oda is already developing the character. Oda is bringing Lucci down from his position as an unapproachable boss-antagonist to a more relatable version of himself. The reader is slowly getting more varied characteristic traits of him as we slowly can see his character coming along as more reachable and funny (Him making that funny face in chapter 1077 and getting angry; Him flying through the wall and leaving that funny imprint of himself). Something he was totally lacking in Water 7 and Enies Lobby.
I already have commented on the specific foreshadowing of Lucci. You can read it here:An overview
And this is exactly why the two of us can argue about strong and weak foreshadowing for the next couple of weeks. Because it is entirely subjective, how much we are weighting certain “foreshadowing”. I feel a little agitation/denfensiveness there implied in your last sentence. Note, that I still try to entirely be objective about our debate – or as much as a breathing, feeling human can. And I try to convey that throughout my entire comments with you - I hope you notice this.
I could maybe Lucci becoming some kind of frenemy to the crew, but the idea of him joining would be such a crazy 180 with his character that I don't see it happening.
Honestly I think the biggest point in favor of Bonney joining the crew is that, according to the Vivre cards, her crew is currently trapped in Impel Down. She's wanted by the World Government so I feel like she'll be sticking with the Strawhats in the foreseeable future
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Honestly I think the biggest point in favor of Bonney joining the crew is that, according to the Vivre cards, her crew is currently trapped in Impel Down. She's wanted by the World Government so I feel like she'll be sticking with the Strawhats in the foreseeable future
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