General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Reborn]

Double ruleship over Elbaf: the accursed prince + the loved prince, together on the throne.

Basically Imu and Harald show us his fate:
- Loki and Hajrudin will became Kings together.

Harald wished both to work together as brothers. Became together kings.

Imu said, Dorry and Brogy are now the new Kings of Elbaph. This lead into the future where both Loki and Hajrudin gonna rule together over Elbaph.

Pretty much set in stone if you ask me.

So two kings?


In Norse mythology, there was always one authority to rule.

Considering how much value giants give to their traditions, I really don't see Elbaph having two kings.

There has to be one.

Takes the throne as the true King or joins the new giant warrior Pirates as Captain, while his brother rules the country.

Regardless he will be a crucial asset to the endgame

And, what about Loki's dream?

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

rambles alt

Dude never did in fact comeback.
He also had a bet with @Mr. Reloaded and lost it, left this side forever after...

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Dude never did in fact comeback.

Not even on a second account ?really??
Wow.....

@Naomi don't follow in his footsteps ok😭

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Not even on a second account ?really??
Wow.....

@Naomi don't follow in his footsteps ok😭

At least I can't see a alt acc.
Either he use something to cover it or he legit left lol.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I think Loki's character is quite misunderstood

From the day he was born

He was called a curse/shame of Elbaf by his own people -----> Blamed for dishonor (Lola incident) -----> blamed for miseries on Elbaph -----> Mistreated and isolated by his own people ------> perhaps lost even those few people who liked him -----> Internalized guilt, confusion, and rage in loneliness and no freedom ------> World Government kills the king ------> Feels betrayed by both his people and the world ---------> Falls into despair.

Then, he learns about Nika of Past - The Sun God who frees the oppressed ....The liberator

Twists Nika’s story in his mind as a symbol of rebellion and developed God's complex

Sees himself as the next Nika meant to bring freedom by fire


Vows to destroy the world that cursed him



Until this happened....

Finally someone saw good in him. Someone was there to give him freedom and protect him.

This simple sentence which you people are taking as "meh it means nothing" means a lot for someone like Loki.

You people need to come out of M3 dynamic and see what narrative context is unfolding

Luffy has sharp sense or instincts when it comes to such matters.

Loki will get respect from Elbaph. Loki will realize it's Luffy who is next Nika and will follow him because Luffy is the only one who willingly wants to give freedom to Loki even when Loki didn't ask and saw good in him when whole world wants to banish him.

I’d agree with you if not for the Harald scene. Loki was the one who chose to not accept his fathers love not vice versa

 

[moreha9685]

Loki will get respect from Elbaph. Loki will realize it's Luffy who is next Nika and will follow him because Luffy is the only one who willingly wants to give freedom to Loki even when Loki didn't ask and saw good in him when whole world wants to banish him.

Yes, Loki will become a diehard Nika glazer and follow Luffy... in the Final War, as an ally, living weapon, and ruler of giants, not as a Strawhat himself.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Loki was the one who chose to not accept his fathers love not vice versa

Wow...do you understand how abuse victims' brains function?
The text box literally says ''he has given up on love''

 

[kekaro]

Crew is full

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Crew is full

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I’d agree with you if not for the Harald scene. Loki was the one who chose to not accept his fathers love not vice versa

Harald saw his bruises and didn't do anything, leaving him at the hand of his abusive uncle because he was too "busy". It's not surprise Loki gave up on love with such a lousy dad.

 

[Naomi]

Not even on a second account ?really??
Wow.....

@Naomi don't follow in his footsteps ok😭

i'll wear the agreed avy if i loose the one your wearing atm.

also 1 week for avy wear deal, i'll find you a silly avy to.

 

[AL sama]

What will be the fate of Loki?

We already have Haju the prince in line as part of Grand fleet and Dorry and Broggy as allies which means Elbaph is already an ally.

So, what will happen to Loki to according to you?

Question to you @Mr. Reloaded @AL sama and @Uncle Van as well.

Loki??

logically I only see 3 routes for him

become King of Elbaph

lead the New Giant pirates

die

this

one brother ruling Elbaph and the other leading the New Giant pirates is the most likely scenario

 

[Master OF Haki]

Lol I remember the days 🤣 of theories about monet Rebecca , Cavendish and barto
And many others before and after.

Never thought any of those characters would join, I'm surprised that people were expecting that.

The only characters I thought would join the crew were Law and Yamato, and now I think Loki has a big chance of joining too.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

i'll wear the agreed avy if i loose the one your wearing atm.

also 1 week for avy wear deal, i'll find you a silly avy to.

bet he joins, this will either be resolved by elbaf or after i don't think be that long,

The bet is never resolved if you include OR AFTER

 

[Naomi]

The bet is never resolved if you include OR AFTER

i said the bet is if he joins, if your gonna back out due to wanting to time gate it. then i will cancel the bet

 

[Devilbat]

Never thought any of those characters would join, I'm surprised that people were expecting that.

The only characters I thought would join the crew were Law and Yamato, and now I think Loki has a big chance of joining too.

Neither Law nor Yamato are sailing with the crew though....

I did stan Yamato, that was probably my only biggest investment in nakamatalk since post-TS (which is when I started to read weekly).

Now I am in "crew's full camp", but I gotta thank Oda for the Yamato disaster as I ended up joining this forum because I wanted to talk to like-minded individuals and sadly none of my irl friends are fans of OP.

 

[Master OF Haki]

one brother ruling Elbaph and the other leading the New Giant pirates is the most likely scenario

The only problem with this, is that Loki is too strong for the grand fleet. Like seriously, an advanced CoC user, with a weapon that shoots lightning, possibly an OP DF on top, and he becomes merely another fodder for Luffy's fleet!? That's a waste of a character if you ask me. Loki is the only giant so far that isn't an absolute fodder, wasting his design (which Oda clearly put a lot thought into it) would be crazy. Would be such a bummer if it happened. BUT THE BIGGEST REASON I THINK IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN, IS BECAUSE IT WOULD DIMINISH HAJERUDIN'S DRINKING OF SAKE AND BECOMING LUFFY'S "BROTHER" IT'S A YAKUDZA THING, ODA LOVES TO DO IT A LOT.

Neither Law nor Yamato are sailing with the crew though....

Sure, but Yamato still has a chance of joining, remember that at some point people thought Jinbe would never join, yet here we are.

I ended up joining this forum because I wanted to talk to like-minded individuals and sadly none of my irl friends are fans of OP.

Btw, welcome, glad you are here. Nowadays I rarely visit the forum (because life is hard for these last 3+ years), but I usally come back for interesting chapters.

 

[Devilbat]

The only problem with this, is that Loki is too strong for the grand fleet. Like seriously, an advanced CoC user, with a weapon that shoots lightning, possibly an OP DF on top, and he becomes merely another fodder for Luffy's fleet!? That's a waste of a character if you ask me. Loki is the only giant so far that isn't an absolute fodder, wasting his design (which Oda clearly put a lot thought into it) would be crazy. Would be such a bummer if it happened. BUT THE BIGGEST REASON I THINK IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN, IS BECAUSE IT WOULD DIMINISH HAJERUDIN'S DRINKING OF SAKE AND BECOMING LUFFY'S "BROTHER" IT'S A YAKUDZA THING, ODA LOVES TO DO IT A LOT.



Sure, but Yamato still has a chance of joining, remember that at some point people thought Jinbe would never join, yet here we are.

I never doubted Jinbe (although I am not his fan either, he's a bit boring to me as a character).
I really wanted to see Yamato in the crew, and I even used the same argument as "but Jinbe joined later", but while Jinbe was bonding with Luffy, Yamato spent too much time bonding with Momo, and Luffy was basically "ah ok, you, Momo and Kinemon are welcome to my crew" but it's more like a Vivi situation when she stayed back in Alabasta.
So I expect both Vivi and Yamato to have prominent roles in the final saga/big war/whatever Oda is cooking, but I don't expect a lot of quality time with SHP like the rest of them.

Loki is also gonna be a prominent character impacting the plot, but I am still not sold on him joining

 

[Peroroncino]

The wings being the strongest nakama under the pirate king was just reinforced this very arc

 

[Devilbat]

Btw, welcome, glad you are here. Nowadays I rarely visit the forum (because life is hard for these last 3+ years), but I usally come back for interesting chapters.

Thank you! Same, I'm not very active right now, but 2022 was wild!
Hope your life is going to get better, it is indeed very hard lately.