General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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Good job, she certainly has a lot of hints and narrative going for her. Like i said earlier, if she wasnt a kid i would love if she came along, but just the idea of Luffy taking a 8 year old to the seas of the NW sounds too outrageous to me. Oda has certainly invested time and attention on her character so lets see where the story goes
Understandable.
But theres been kids on pirate crews before, both in real history and in one piece.
this is 30 years ago, Toki died when she was 36, so that would make Shanks and Buggy 9 years old apprentinces in that panel.
Im happy to discuss the pros and cons about Tama joining, but from prior experiences in orojackson I know it can go toxic very fast, so that is why I havnt brought it up here yet.
Thanks a lot for feedback!
But theres been kids on pirate crews before, both in real history and in one piece.
this is 30 years ago, Toki died when she was 36, so that would make Shanks and Buggy 9 years old apprentinces in that panel.
Im happy to discuss the pros and cons about Tama joining, but from prior experiences in orojackson I know it can go toxic very fast, so that is why I havnt brought it up here yet.
Thanks a lot for feedback!
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There is a lot of pros, many crews have had kids on board and they have a named role on the ship (cabin boy, pirate apprentice). There is Doffy, Newgate, Roger, Linlin (though they probably barely sail outside their territories), Robin might have been on quite a few. But the beginning of the story makes this complicated with Shanks inspiring Luffy to rather sail out by himself. However, you can argue even that both ways, like Luffy proving to Shanks that its possible for a brat to come along a crew and make it (Shankses reasons go beyond just that, but Luffy doesent necessarily know the full picture like we do). Then there is her intro, her weird powers, her convictions, connection to Ace and their promise, the immediate bond with Luffy, which are things shown quickly after her appearance and before Luffy saves her. And ill say it once more, if she wasnt a brat, the moment Ace was brought up, id say shes the one, but like this there is room to argue heavily against her. One big con is probably Luffys promise of making Wano a land where she will be able to have a full stomach each day, so from that you can take that he doesent plan to take her with him. I think before the arc ends we will have a pretty good idea about her future
Yeah, no doubt he is not planning on taking her with him at the moment, but we have at least two plot threads that needs to be finished before that comes into play imo.
first one is, we need Tama to prove what he she is capable of, to herself, to Luffy and crew and to us, the readers.
Her devilfruit ability have been mentioned by several character to be very useful and powerful, by Luffy himself, Holdem and Inu I believe, but so far.. yeah it has been useful but nothing groundbreaking, she would need to do something more extraordinary imo.
secondly, Tama doesnt know Luffy is the brother of Ace, and Luffy doesnt know of Tamas promise to Ace, when all this aligns I think we will have a new crew member on the crew.
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first one is, we need Tama to prove what he she is capable of, to herself, to Luffy and crew and to us, the readers.
Her devilfruit ability have been mentioned by several character to be very useful and powerful, by Luffy himself, Holdem and Inu I believe, but so far.. yeah it has been useful but nothing groundbreaking, she would need to do something more extraordinary imo.
secondly, Tama doesnt know Luffy is the brother of Ace, and Luffy doesnt know of Tamas promise to Ace, when all this aligns I think we will have a new crew member on the crew.
Luffy is hardly capable of thinking that deeply, my friend 
Yes both are valid points, and if there is one thing certain about her its that Oda is not even close to being done with her character, there is still a lot to be revealed and dealt with. The great thing is, the little we have seen of her was quite intriguing and very telling of where Oda might go with her. When she appears again it will spark some more speculation
You know what...maybe Tama will go but she’ll have difficulties with Blackbeard Pirates and the Final War that will come. Perhaps Ulti is better than Tama and way good for the SHs than Tama. However, maybe Vivi will return to the SHs and rejoins than having Ulti and Tama to join. Or maybe Caribo or Caesar Clown.
Who do you guys think will join the SHs? Only choose one.
Who do you guys think will join the SHs? Only choose one.
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Blah blah blah blah blah Not exist nothing preventing Carrot of join Straw Hats bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
Yes,exist. She's a character without content,without development and worthy of nothing more than be secondary.
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot performed so many times her future role in crew bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
You guys are making up things about her based in she randomly using binoculars in Sunny. Chopper and Franky,during their developments to join Straw Hats, had many feats turning their respective specialities in fighting power,while she hadn't a single feat equal to Van Augur's that can make her worthy of be called a specialist lookout.
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot is a amazing fighter bleh bleh bleh ble bleh
Based in everything she showed in base power so far,i can say with safety that she's far away from Dellinger's level,and based in her "performance" with Su Long Form,i can say with safety that Su Long Carrot vs Kyros would be just like Kyros vs Buffalo.
The only Straw Hat she can defeat is the puny girl Nami,because all she have fighting power related is the weather toy,which is useless in close range. Even Usopp can dispose her. He survived to things endlessly more dangerous than her in past,and now that he was trained in Boin Archipelago by a CP9 level character,those things would be far easier for his current self.
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot wanna adventures bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
That's all? That's a extremely weak motive for One Piece's standarts. One Piece stands out of any other fiction work,due to have every aspect anyone could ever want in a fiction work and every aspect be used of the most extensive way possible,so that none content is never meager across the history. Linlin is a incarnated demon with a love for fantasy with the motive of remake the world to her own image,but there is much more behind her and her motives than may appear. Doflamingo has the typical motive of destroy the whole world,but there is much more behind him and his motives than may appear. If Carrot’s motives can be wrote in two words, she not even can be called of a One Piece’s character.
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot was helpful and developed during Totto Land Arc bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
Helpful? She had a participation in Chopper’s takeover of Mirrors World that isn’t even worthy of praise,because was Chopper who crafted the whole plan and defeated the most dangerous enemy from that moment. And the way as she saved Straw Hats of need face a fleet of fodders was extremely lame compared with the way as Kyros and Calgara can defeat whole ships in open sea. She did it through cheap tricks,just like Nami stealing Zeus of Linlin.
Developed? Someone important in her life died in front of her,and so was showed that her backstory is the weakest of all One Piece. What more?
Is the biggest idiocy in world compare all this with Franky’s content from Water 7 to Ennies Lobby.
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot created bonds with Straw Hats bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
Nami only have admiration by how Carrot is a better fighter than her.
Sanji’s treatment to her isn’t different of how he treats any cute girl.
Her “relationship” with Chopper is nothing more than Chopper guiding her due she being too dumbass for take care of herself outside Zou.
Interactions between Carrot and Luffy are nonexistent so far. Why would them start to bond from now on,when Luffy already saw Pekoms,someone far superior to her,in action and was totally nonchalant with that?
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot is sailing for Onigashima onboard Sunny bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
That is see nonexistent meanings behind panels of mangá.
It already happened before,with the only panel that Scopper Gaban ever got in a Roger’s flahsback.
Sanji’s fans always saw Scopper Gaban as Sanji’s parallel in Roger Pirates,and believed he was the third strongest just like Sanji in Straw Hats. But,just like never was made clear in mangá that Sanji is the third strongest in Straw Hats,never was made clear in Roger’s flashbacks that Scopper Gaban was the third strongest in Roger Pirates.
Of the only panel that Scopper Gaban got in Roger’s flahsbacks,can’t came any other meaning beyond the confirmation that he fights with one small sized axe in each hand. Nobody can assume he was the third strongest only because he decided face Oden next to Rayleigh. If Roger Pirates had a third strongest,we should assume was Crocus,he was the most proeminent member inside and outside the flahsbacks: He participated of a arc in current storyline and had big feats during that time,and during the flashbacks was showed how he is someone for even Roger take seriously in feuds and bickering.
With this same logic,is idiocy say “Oda is portraying Carrot as already a Straw Hat”. The reason for her and Wanda be going to Onigashima onboard the Sunny is a behind the scenes information,which must be revealed in some One Piece’s media in future.
Blah blah blah blah blah Onigashima War is perfect for Carrot be fully developed bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
What more there is to be done with her? More random moments using binnoculars? More “usefulness” by cheap tricks? Onigashima War will be one of the greatest and most important battle arcs of One Piece. If there is something that can’t have over there, is waste of panels.
Let's use logic here!!
Yes,exist. She's a character without content,without development and worthy of nothing more than be secondary.
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot performed so many times her future role in crew bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
You guys are making up things about her based in she randomly using binoculars in Sunny. Chopper and Franky,during their developments to join Straw Hats, had many feats turning their respective specialities in fighting power,while she hadn't a single feat equal to Van Augur's that can make her worthy of be called a specialist lookout.
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot is a amazing fighter bleh bleh bleh ble bleh
Based in everything she showed in base power so far,i can say with safety that she's far away from Dellinger's level,and based in her "performance" with Su Long Form,i can say with safety that Su Long Carrot vs Kyros would be just like Kyros vs Buffalo.
The only Straw Hat she can defeat is the puny girl Nami,because all she have fighting power related is the weather toy,which is useless in close range. Even Usopp can dispose her. He survived to things endlessly more dangerous than her in past,and now that he was trained in Boin Archipelago by a CP9 level character,those things would be far easier for his current self.
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot wanna adventures bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
That's all? That's a extremely weak motive for One Piece's standarts. One Piece stands out of any other fiction work,due to have every aspect anyone could ever want in a fiction work and every aspect be used of the most extensive way possible,so that none content is never meager across the history. Linlin is a incarnated demon with a love for fantasy with the motive of remake the world to her own image,but there is much more behind her and her motives than may appear. Doflamingo has the typical motive of destroy the whole world,but there is much more behind him and his motives than may appear. If Carrot’s motives can be wrote in two words, she not even can be called of a One Piece’s character.
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot was helpful and developed during Totto Land Arc bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
Helpful? She had a participation in Chopper’s takeover of Mirrors World that isn’t even worthy of praise,because was Chopper who crafted the whole plan and defeated the most dangerous enemy from that moment. And the way as she saved Straw Hats of need face a fleet of fodders was extremely lame compared with the way as Kyros and Calgara can defeat whole ships in open sea. She did it through cheap tricks,just like Nami stealing Zeus of Linlin.
Developed? Someone important in her life died in front of her,and so was showed that her backstory is the weakest of all One Piece. What more?
Is the biggest idiocy in world compare all this with Franky’s content from Water 7 to Ennies Lobby.
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot created bonds with Straw Hats bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
Nami only have admiration by how Carrot is a better fighter than her.
Sanji’s treatment to her isn’t different of how he treats any cute girl.
Her “relationship” with Chopper is nothing more than Chopper guiding her due she being too dumbass for take care of herself outside Zou.
Interactions between Carrot and Luffy are nonexistent so far. Why would them start to bond from now on,when Luffy already saw Pekoms,someone far superior to her,in action and was totally nonchalant with that?
Blah blah blah blah blah Carrot is sailing for Onigashima onboard Sunny bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
That is see nonexistent meanings behind panels of mangá.
It already happened before,with the only panel that Scopper Gaban ever got in a Roger’s flahsback.
Sanji’s fans always saw Scopper Gaban as Sanji’s parallel in Roger Pirates,and believed he was the third strongest just like Sanji in Straw Hats. But,just like never was made clear in mangá that Sanji is the third strongest in Straw Hats,never was made clear in Roger’s flashbacks that Scopper Gaban was the third strongest in Roger Pirates.
Of the only panel that Scopper Gaban got in Roger’s flahsbacks,can’t came any other meaning beyond the confirmation that he fights with one small sized axe in each hand. Nobody can assume he was the third strongest only because he decided face Oden next to Rayleigh. If Roger Pirates had a third strongest,we should assume was Crocus,he was the most proeminent member inside and outside the flahsbacks: He participated of a arc in current storyline and had big feats during that time,and during the flashbacks was showed how he is someone for even Roger take seriously in feuds and bickering.
With this same logic,is idiocy say “Oda is portraying Carrot as already a Straw Hat”. The reason for her and Wanda be going to Onigashima onboard the Sunny is a behind the scenes information,which must be revealed in some One Piece’s media in future.
Blah blah blah blah blah Onigashima War is perfect for Carrot be fully developed bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
What more there is to be done with her? More random moments using binnoculars? More “usefulness” by cheap tricks? Onigashima War will be one of the greatest and most important battle arcs of One Piece. If there is something that can’t have over there, is waste of panels.
Let's use logic here!!
Yeah, lots of build up! Did I write that her devil fruit isnt named yet? It could easily fit the numbers pattern and cover 2 and 9 as well.
Yeah, and that's why I'm expecting her to show up and do something big soon, the hints with some characters saying how powerful and useful her ability is will be the build up for that.
Many crews do not rely on every crewmember to pull their own weight and be dependable.
Roger Pirates had 30 members that we know of, and probably more that we do not know of.
For the Strawhats, each of them need to be there when it´s required.
Plus we literally have the answer in chapter 1.
Roger Pirates had 30 members that we know of, and probably more that we do not know of.
For the Strawhats, each of them need to be there when it´s required.
Plus we literally have the answer in chapter 1.
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