[FNZ] Role Madness NieR: Automata Mafia Game Thread [Game State: Game End - Indie Victory]

[Flower]

We are playing an Ekko game, I don't make assumptions about the why

But it's obvious his own ability is responsible by the WU

Then how does him dying to his own ability make any sense?

Polar turned green (via his own ability).
Some other hostile killed him.

This is literally the easiest assumption here.

 

[Flower]

But sure, he was killed by his own faction to just never utilize his role at all.

Omegalul.

 

[Ultra]

Then how does him dying to his own ability make any sense?

Polar turned green (via his own ability).
Some other hostile killed him.

This is literally the easiest assumption here.

My brain is scrambling trying to process what is so confusing to you.

There is no reason to assume there's an "other hostile", based on what appears to have happened he is as eligible to be killed by Green. They would not be aware of Polar's alignment.

 

[Ultra]

But sure, he was killed by his own faction to just never utilize his role at all.

Omegalul.

Why are you presuming for a fact that a faction with seperated members knows who those seperated members are?

Kinda defeats the point doesn't it?

 

[Ultra]

especially if that seperated member is not in fact a member until he, you know, converts to one

 

[Flower]

My brain is scrambling trying to process what is so confusing to you.

There is no reason to assume there's an "other hostile", based on what appears to have happened he is as eligible to be killed by Green. They would not be aware of Polar's alignment.

It's stated he must obey their commands, so what tf are you talking about? The Red Girls know his alignment, he just doesn't know who they are.

 

[Flower]

Objective - The true objective of your faction is currently unknown except to The Red Girls (N2), however, you are instructed to obey and ensue chaos...

Like duh.

 

[Crying bc no Cryo]

oh boo hoo i hate all the times i've been converted to scum and killed by my newfound partners at the same time. i also hate when i rand mafia and get shot by my partners n1 boo hoo hoo

 

[York]

@York flavor?

Nobody even tried to guess smh

Strange Resistance Woman

 

[Ultra]

It's stated he must obey their commands, so what tf are you talking about? The Red Girls know his alignment, he just doesn't know who they are.

Ok, I'm going to hand hold you through this.

- Polar activates his ability and converts N1
- Mafia shoot Polar Night 1

These happen simultaneously.

Any and all assumptions about "Mafia knows who Polar is so blah blah" are therefore moot, unless specifically you assume the mafia was informed of Polar specifically before he even converted himself

Capice?

 

[Flower]

Killing / Lethal Actions
Conversive
Investigative

Conversive abilities are also after kills, so if they killed him and converted him he would have died as Town.

Which means the conversion must have happened either during the night or before the night.

 

[Flower]

Ok, I'm going to hand hold you through this.

- Polar activates his ability and converts N1
- Mafia shoot Polar Night 1

These happen simultaneously.

Any and all assumptions about "Mafia knows who Polar is so blah blah" are therefore moot, unless specifically you assume the mafia was informed of Polar specifically before he even converted himself

Capice?

Read the f***ing action Resolution.

 

[Ultra]

Read the f***ing action Resolution.

You seem very confused

For one, you're theorizing he was converted "in the middle of the night", which by default falls out of the purview of resolution order.

Secondly, killing being above conversion in resolution order doesn't mean conversions don't happen. I mean, clearly so, this is evidenced by the fact that he did

 

[Flower]

You seem very confused

For one, you're theorizing he was converted "in the middle of the night", which by default falls out of the purview of resolution order.

Secondly, killing being above conversion in resolution order doesn't mean conversions don't happen. I mean, clearly so, this is evidenced by the fact that he did

So.

Do you think it's likely we started the game with a single hostile flavour or not?

Because the Red Girls are a single flavour and only they know the wincon which means they aren't a Mafia.

For your theory to work this is the main implication.

 

[Ultra]

So.

Do you think it's likely we started the game with a single hostile flavour or not?

Because the Red Girls are a single flavour and only they know the wincon which means they aren't a Mafia.

For your theory to work this is the main implication.

This is all dross. You're knee deep in dross sauce.

 

[Flower]

This is all dross. You're knee deep in dross sauce.

It's literally stated in his role flip.

 

[Flower]

You are lost in the sauce fr.

 

[Ultra]

It's literally stated in his role flip.

No you're talking about a whole lot of shit that has no significance.

Strictly, from a logical standpoint, there is absolutely nothing proving that the green faction isn't mafia, nor that they couldn't kill him. You're speculating on what you think is likely, but you're needlessly confusing yourself and others.

 

[Ultra]

You are lost in the sauce fr.

You have pulled about 5 different assumptions out of your ass and stated them with full confidence in a game that doesn't even have a dedicated town faction lol

 

[KWEH]

You're smoking reefer. See York's post. You think Eva just happens to be some other chucklefuck?

I mean if Polars Mason partner isn't Eva they probably oughta just claim as much and take the free town clear

Otherwise if nobody comes forward ima just assume the Mason is in fact Eva and scum