General & Others Nobody cares about clashes. Kizaru needs to go down

[U c 4 up da idly]

If Kizaru falls here it'd dehype remaining Admirals imo, no?
So part of me hope it's rather hype them here. Plus feel there's less time for an all out fight here.

Only if Luffy easily defeats Kizaru which I do not see happening, Luffy always struggles in his fights

 

[BlackLegFring]

I don’t think so. If this was meant to be a long drawn out bout then sure, but right from the start the goal has just been to escape with Vegapunk.

I don’t see Vegapunk with all his knowledge leaving with the Strawhats, and the Seraphim & Mother Flame will likely stay in WG hands.
I don’t see all that happening if Kizaru goes down. I think everything is just leading up to an interruption, and there’s a lot of options for that: the giant robot, BB pirates, S-Bear..

 

[Apollo]

Nobody cares about clashes.

Unfortunately for you, Oda does care about clashes. He was doing that in Egghead with the Seraphim.

I hope we get a full unrestricted Kizaru vs Luffy here, but I am keeping my expectations low with Oda.

 

[Kotone]

Well i think Sanji vs Kizaru would be a amazing fight 〜⁠(⁠꒪⁠꒳⁠꒪⁠)⁠〜

But if all I can get is a clash
I'll take it .⁠·⁠´⁠¯⁠`⁠(⁠>⁠▂⁠<⁠)⁠´⁠¯⁠`⁠·⁠.

 

[Reborn]

Unfortunately for you, Oda does care about clashes. He was doing that in Egghead with the Seraphim.

I hope we get a full unrestricted Kizaru vs Luffy here, but I am keeping my expectations low with Oda.

Don't think so


This is more like an escape arc. All luffy fights with major characters are lengthy, takes time to build and are extreme diff.


Don't think this arc is meant for this

 

[Kotone]

Don't think so


This is more like an escape arc. All luffy fights with major characters are lengthy, takes time to build and are extreme diff.


Don't think this arc is meant for this

Female Kizaru >>>>> Akainu ⊙⁠﹏⁠⊙

 

[Apollo]

This is more like an escape arc.

We could say the same about WCI and we still got the Katakuri fight. So its not absolute that Luffy wont have an extended fight.

I think Oda will cut the SHs vs Marines fight short when Blackbeard intervenes, possibly kidnapping Saturn in the process.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

This arc should be a Clash arc to cement SHs as a Yonko crew

Crew vs Marine Force

I don't think Kizaru goes down. I think bounties will raise based off clashes this arc.
But if Kizaru goes down, its to Luffy.

Saturn will definitely not lose this arc. If he does, then classic Gorosei fraudulence

 

[Reborn]

We could say the same about WCI and we still got the Katakuri fight. So its not absolute that Luffy wont have an extended fight.

I think Oda will cut the SHs vs Marines fight short when Blackbeard intervenes, possibly kidnapping Saturn in the process.

Luffy vs kata had build up. It was 2 years long arc and gradually it became clear we might see luffy vs kata there..

This arc hasn't seen anything like that.

And, then you have third party involved as well - BBP


Add another issue - power plant. Neither SH nor Navy would prefer to go all out which can lead to destruction of it.

 

[JoNdule]

Agree, but then the final war looks weird. Akainu and Ryokugyu only ? assuming Fuji doesn't fight for them at EoS.

If Fuji stays it's OK though

Final war is bout taking down Imu and his forces
Marines won't be the main threats
Their arc was marineford, Mairjois arc is about Imu forces.

Only Akainu & maybe Fuji & GB will be there at final war as marines to beat
I only see Akainu since I believe now that Oda might take our Fuji and GB before the final war too
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I don’t think so. If this was meant to be a long drawn out bout then sure, but right from the start the goal has just been to escape with Vegapunk.

I don’t see Vegapunk with all his knowledge leaving with the Strawhats, and the Seraphim & Mother Flame will likely stay in WG hands.
I don’t see all that happening if Kizaru goes down. I think everything is just leading up to an interruption, and there’s a lot of options for that: the giant robot, BB pirates, S-Bear..

Did you read WCI?
The goal was to resue sanji and escape , guess what happened...Luffy decided to have 1v1 against Katakuri so that he grows stronger and saves his crew from being blocked by katakuri and Bm at the same time

 

[MarineHQ]

Final war is bout taking down Imu ahs his forces
Marines won't be the main threats
Their arc was marineford, Mairjois arc is about Imu forces.

Only Akainu & maybe Fuji & GB will be there at final war as marines to beat
I only see Akainu since I believe now that Oda might take our Fuji and GB before the final war too

You don't write a series like that. When Luffy confronts the WG all of their forces will be on the strongest they've ever been and removing an Admiral isn't the way.

 

[Apollo]

Luffy vs kata had build up. It was 2 years long arc and gradually it became clear we might see luffy vs kata there..

This arc hasn't seen anything like that.

And, then you have third party involved as well - BBP


Add another issue - power plant. Neither SH nor Navy would prefer to go all out which can lead to destruction of it.

We haven't spent as much time in Egghead proper yet, so we might still get build up for it.

The point about the plant is true, so I'll give you that. Egghead has areas outside of the Lab though where they can fight.

At the end we can only wait and see what happens.

 

[Reborn]

You don't write a series like that. When Luffy confronts the WG all of their forces will be on the strongest they've ever been and removing an Admiral isn't the way.

Make up your mind - you think kizaru going down or not? Lol

 

[Ryuarashi]

You don't write a series like that. When Luffy confronts the WG all of their forces will be on the strongest they've ever been and removing an Admiral isn't the way.

It's only a single Admiral.

Just before an Admiral is defeated we happen to get a flashback revealing that the Gorosei are fighters? Dont believe it's a coincidence.

Either way Kizaru might not go down due to time restriction of wanting to escape however he sure as hell won't be cruising like he did at Sabaody

 

[GUI VI]

Marines are the end game.

No, they aren't lol.

 

[Reborn]

No, they aren't lol.

WG is and by default navy as well

 

[NAMELESS]

No, they aren't lol.

Finding the one piece is like Eren and his gang finding his dad's basement.It will trigger the final war.Whitebeard himself said so.

 

[JoNdule]

You don't write a series like that. When Luffy confronts the WG all of their forces will be on the strongest they've ever been and removing an Admiral isn't the way.

Except WG main forces during Marijois final war will be Imu + Gorosei + Knights + Seraphims + Kong & Akainu

WG main forces at Marineford was : Sengoku + Admirals + VAs + Warlords + Pacifistats + Admirals + VAs
Akainu was the main villain of Marineford

Admirals aren't really playing big toles against Joyboy like Imu and Gorosei
Oda can ake them out before final war

 

[Zaretball]

The chance is high. He's not that important and his most important connections are in this arc. He can fall in the next arc as well if he tries to follow the Sh

 

[Sentinel]

Imo a battle conclusion needs to happen this arc. If an admiral gets "spared", when will an admiral go down? After Laugh Tale? Together with all the other admirals? I think this is the perfect opportunity for Luffy to show that he can even beat an admiral now, that he has become THAT strong. It perfectly serves the narrative purpose.