General & Others Nobody in Egghead was taken down

#21
If you start thinking about it, this arc becomes a real disappointment in terms of consequences (or lack thereof) once again.

We got something even bigger than the buster call with God knows how many marines and vice admirals, a literal admiral himself, five freakin Gorosei, CP0 and seraphim vs the Vegapunks, seabeasts, Pacifista, Kuma and the SHs.

Yet there are no casualties - not a single one on either side (and no, Vegapunk doesn't count since he planned it and is technically still alive, like Lillith confirmed).

This lack of consequences even in such a situation is just mindboggling and the reason why any tension has been gone in the OP manga for a long time now.

It's ridiculous when you think about it, really.

Just imagine sth like the Chimera Ant Palace Invasion in HxH and every single one of the characters (Meruem, Komogi, Netero, Pitou, Pouf, Youpi, Gon etc.) makes it out alive and without any major consequences.

People would rightfully shittalk the hell out of it, but somehow everyone has accepted it when it comes to One Piece.
Stannis was one of the best commander in game of throne.
Show did him dirty lol
 
#23
Luffy was on the ground paralyzed longer than kizaru was the first time he ran out of g5. Kizaru was pretending he couldn’t have moved until Luffy and the crew left

You can say they got overwhelmed but you can’t say any of them were taken out
This is copium

Kizaru is the one who got hit ,luffy wasn't down because of Kizaru's attack

Lucci got beaten by Luffy as
and so was Kizaru
Also the fact he didn't get up again after being made into a pizza until SHs escaped.

That's a loss
Katakuri lost despite willingly following down and he was awake shortly after luffy left mirrorworld yet Oda called it a loss

If you can't fight anymore, you lose
That's how the fight goes. Doesn't matter if you willingly stay down or not
 
#24
Also just to clarify again luffy and zoro are stronger than kizaru and Lucci. Hell kaido and king are also stronger than them

Still didn’t defeat them tho and there’s obviously more context to how and why they were fighting than trying to win
  1. Luffy vs kizaru
    • Luffy was trying to escape and save vegapunk as fast as possible. That being the reason he entered his time limit forms off the bat in g4/5. If it wasn’t for Saturn they’d would’ve been able to successfully escape way faster
    • Kizaru didn’t want to fight Luffy. He was constantly trying to get away from him more so focusing on his mission to try and kill vegapunk. Him deciding to not get up after he did so and had an excuse
  2. Zoro vs Lucci
    • Zoro himself wanted to actually defeat Lucci as quickly as possible knowing how much of a rush they were in. Him basically starting the fight using overflowing armament. The problem being he couldn’t get any hits in until sanji insult which is why the fight was taking so long
    • Lucci was also try to defeat zoro but like zoro he couldn’t get any hits in which ended up dragging the fight way longer. When he eventually did get hit with a big attack he still refused to fall and was still willing to fight. It only really ending because Jinbe dragged zoro out

It is telling that up until now, no one was taken down. But Egghead is still not over... .

Kizaru will be taken down for sure.
Eh idk about that but I don’t mind the theory of Saturn being tasked to try and kill everyone on left on egghead
 
#26
If you start thinking about it, this arc becomes a real disappointment in terms of consequences (or lack thereof) once again.

We got something even bigger than the buster call with God knows how many marines and vice admirals, a literal admiral himself, five freakin Gorosei, CP0 and seraphim vs the Vegapunks, seabeasts, Pacifista, Kuma and the SHs.

Yet there are no casualties - not a single one on either side (and no, Vegapunk doesn't count since he planned it and is technically still alive, like Lillith confirmed).

This lack of consequences even in such a situation is just mindboggling and the reason why any tension has been gone in the OP manga for a long time now.

It's ridiculous when you think about it, really.

Just imagine sth like the Chimera Ant Palace Invasion in HxH and every single one of the characters (Meruem, Komogi, Netero, Pitou, Pouf, Youpi, Gon etc.) makes it out alive and without any major consequences.

People would rightfully shittalk the hell out of it, but somehow everyone has accepted it when it comes to One Piece.
The tension washed away with the Charlotte Tsunami
 
#29
Also just to clarify again luffy and zoro are stronger than kizaru and Lucci. Hell kaido and king are also stronger than them

Still didn’t defeat them tho and there’s obviously more context to how and why they were fighting than trying to win
  1. Luffy vs kizaru
    • Luffy was trying to escape and save vegapunk as fast as possible. That being the reason he entered his time limit forms off the bat in g4/5. If it wasn’t for Saturn they’d would’ve been able to successfully escape way faster
    • Kizaru didn’t want to fight Luffy. He was constantly trying to get away from him more so focusing on his mission to try and kill vegapunk. Him deciding to not get up after he did so and had an excuse
  2. Zoro vs Lucci
    • Zoro himself wanted to actually defeat Lucci as quickly as possible knowing how much of a rush they were in. Him basically starting the fight using overflowing armament. The problem being he couldn’t get any hits in until sanji insult which is why the fight was taking so long
    • Lucci was also try to defeat zoro but like zoro he couldn’t get any hits in which ended up dragging the fight way longer. When he eventually did get hit with a big attack he still refused to fall and was still willing to fight. It only really ending because Jinbe dragged zoro out


Eh idk about that but I don’t mind the theory of Saturn being tasked to try and kill everyone on left on egghead
Kizaru is able to follow the SHPs using his DF ability. If Akainu just gives him the order to do so, he will do it. And this is, what will initiate that little twist, Oda's editor talked about. Trust me - Egghead is not over and the power scaler will have much to talk about during the next chapters. :ihaha:
 
#30
If you start thinking about it, this arc becomes a real disappointment in terms of consequences (or lack thereof) once again.

We got something even bigger than the buster call with God knows how many marines and vice admirals, a literal admiral himself, five freakin Gorosei, CP0 and seraphim vs the Vegapunks, seabeasts, Pacifista, Kuma and the SHs.

Yet there are no casualties - not a single one on either side (and no, Vegapunk doesn't count since he planned it and is technically still alive, like Lillith confirmed).

This lack of consequences even in such a situation is just mindboggling and the reason why any tension has been gone in the OP manga for a long time now.

It's ridiculous when you think about it, really.

Just imagine sth like the Chimera Ant Palace Invasion in HxH and every single one of the characters (Meruem, Komogi, Netero, Pitou, Pouf, Youpi, Gon etc.) makes it out alive and without any major consequences.

People would rightfully shittalk the hell out of it, but somehow everyone has accepted it when it comes to One Piece.
Yea....i enjoy Egghead to a degree but the pure fact that the island looks better off having 3x the ships, 2x the VAs, 50 Mach 3 Pacifista, an Admiral and all 5 Gorosei vs anything matched in Enies Lobby or Ohara is ridiculous

Everyone lived in Enies Lobby, but the devastation was absolutely felt. Oda really should have given the crew fights against the VAs and Kizaru. Saturn and the Gorosei should have shown up after everything else happened, while everyone was struggling to escape.


The irony that all of this felt rushed and yet took 62 chapters to complete is insane.
 
#31
If you start thinking about it, this arc becomes a real disappointment in terms of consequences (or lack thereof) once again.

We got something even bigger than the buster call with God knows how many marines and vice admirals, a literal admiral himself, five freakin Gorosei, CP0 and seraphim vs the Vegapunks, seabeasts, Pacifista, Kuma and the SHs.

Yet there are no casualties - not a single one on either side (and no, Vegapunk doesn't count since he planned it and is technically still alive, like Lillith confirmed).

This lack of consequences even in such a situation is just mindboggling and the reason why any tension has been gone in the OP manga for a long time now.

It's ridiculous when you think about it, really.

Just imagine sth like the Chimera Ant Palace Invasion in HxH and every single one of the characters (Meruem, Komogi, Netero, Pitou, Pouf, Youpi, Gon etc.) makes it out alive and without any major consequences.

People would rightfully shittalk the hell out of it, but somehow everyone has accepted it when it comes to One Piece.
People don't talk much about it because it's been established from day 1 in One Piece.
 
#32
If you start thinking about it, this arc becomes a real disappointment in terms of consequences (or lack thereof) once again.

We got something even bigger than the buster call with God knows how many marines and vice admirals, a literal admiral himself, five freakin Gorosei, CP0 and seraphim vs the Vegapunks, seabeasts, Pacifista, Kuma and the SHs.

Yet there are no casualties - not a single one on either side (and no, Vegapunk doesn't count since he planned it and is technically still alive, like Lillith confirmed).

This lack of consequences even in such a situation is just mindboggling and the reason why any tension has been gone in the OP manga for a long time now.

It's ridiculous when you think about it, really.

Just imagine sth like the Chimera Ant Palace Invasion in HxH and every single one of the characters (Meruem, Komogi, Netero, Pitou, Pouf, Youpi, Gon etc.) makes it out alive and without any major consequences.

People would rightfully shittalk the hell out of it, but somehow everyone has accepted it when it comes to One Piece.
Problem is that it has always happened in One Piece, Luffy and the Straw Hats never have to face the harships and consequences they should have faced during each arc and their allies such as Hancock or Rayleigh don't really face the dangers and consequences for their actions they should have faced long ago. Even antagonists such as Crocodile, Baroque Works, even Robin herself, Wapol, Enel, the warlords, the Vinsmokes, Caribou or Caesar never face the consequences for their crimes and generally get away scott free in the end.
 
#33
People don't talk much about it because it's been established from day 1 in One Piece.
Actually One Piece these days has far more death than Pre-TS ever did (Vergo/Monet, Asura, Izo, VP, etc), yet ironically the earlier story was far more tense because Luffy and crew actually struggled to surpass their foes and getting out of nigh impossible situations just felt more satisfying.

Honestly Gear 5 has put a massive dampener on tension, Luffy laughs at everything and can do anything. My only hope is that its not a longstanding trend with future enemies and they know how to combat it. Or maybe Gear 5 is just Luffy's hybrid and Gear 6 is some awakened full zoan version of Nika thats actually more menacing.
 
#35
And if Kizaru had used someting more than 90% no named finger lasers, almost no named moves, barely used the sword and wasn't even super conflicted, I would have agreed too.

So, overall, that's Is what happened: they barely used their full power and still there was a double KO in the end. And Kizaru even got up before Luffy.
this still does not justify the 1 acoc medium hit ko for 10 mins which put a very very big difference betwee kizaru and the yonko level
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You not fucking caring doesn’t make it any less relevant

Knocking someone out for 10 minutes but you yourself getting gassed out for even longer matters lol
luffy did not gas the second time, he took care of him witout playing and it took him an instant
 
#38
this still does not justify the 1 acoc medium hit ko for 10 mins which put a very very big difference betwee kizaru and the yonko level
The only Emperor we saw was Kaido, so we really don't know how a "human" top tier would have reacted. Anyway, Kizaru was down for a really short time. He was up the chapter after that in fact, we saw him getting up and sitting behind a rock.
 
#40
I said it from the start that we wouldn’t be getting any conclusive fights. Despite Oda dragging out the arc needlessly, there just wasn’t any point of that for what should just be a way stop before Elbaf.
We just had full fights and bounty updates after Wano, so it was simply too soon to have the same right away.
 
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