Powers & Abilities Oda dropping the ball with Haki...again

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
#66
Zoro is being careful with his haki usage so that Enma doesn't siphon away all his haki. He hasn't fully mastered it yet.

Alternatively, Zoro is temporarily holding the idiot ball and would later on randomly start using hardening again.

@Doggo.
It's not unusual in Shounen for character to "not go all out" at the beginning of the fight.
It COULD be the case.
Doesn't make it less bad, but at least would make sense. I guess?
 
#67
I like this chapter but the supernovas attacks appear to be a case of plot induced stupidity (PIS).

Law dropped rocks on Kaido. Yes, rocks. Did he really think that was going to do anything? He should at least try to cut him in half with his DF power. I don't believe it's going to be easy to cut a Yonko with his DF power. Even if it wouldn't have hurt him it could have slowed him down and been used to create a opening for someone else's attack.

Kidd thought that he was going to crush Kaido like he was a bug. Really? You were just surprised that a blunt attack worked against Kaido yet you thought you was going to crush him. Did you forget about the part where Kaido jumped off skypiea, landed right in front of your base, created a huge crater, and still didn't sustain any injuries.

Luffy decides to use a non internal barrier haki attack knowing it won't hurt Kaido. That was the same power that failed to damage Kaido during their first encounter. That was directly after he's an attack that could hurt him. Why didn't you just use that same attack again?

Zoro used blackened haki against Pica and Killer but against Kaido he doesn't even use invisible haki. Seriously? Did he think his physical strength was so powerful he could hurt Kaido without haki?

Killer believes they have a chance to defeat Kaido because Luffy can hurt him with a blunt attack thanks to his unique haki yet he attacked him nonetheless with a none haki attack. I thought he was smart.
 
#68
I like this chapter but the supernovas attacks appear to be a case of plot induced stupidity (PIS).

Law dropped rocks on Kaido. Yes, rocks. Did he really think that was going to do anything? He should at least try to cut him in half with his DF power. I don't believe it's going to be easy to cut a Yonko with his DF power. Even if it wouldn't have hurt him it could have slowed him down and been used to create a opening for someone else's attack.

Kidd thought that he was going to crush Kaido like he was a bug. Really? You were just surprised that a blunt attack worked against Kaido yet you thought you was going to crush him. Did you forget about the part where Kaido jumped off skypiea, landed right in front of your base, created a huge crater, and still didn't sustain any injuries.

Luffy decides to use a non internal barrier haki attack knowing it won't hurt Kaido. That was the same power that failed to damage Kaido during their first encounter. That was directly after he's an attack that could hurt him. Why didn't you just use that same attack again?

Zoro used blackened haki against Pica and Killer but against Kaido he doesn't even use invisible haki. Seriously? Did he think his physical strength was so powerful he could hurt Kaido without haki?

Killer believes they have a chance to defeat Kaido because Luffy can hurt him with a blunt attack thanks to his unique haki yet he attacked him nonetheless with a none haki attack. I thought he was smart.
Zoro tells Enma to release more of it i.e haki so it seems like he hasn't fully tamed/controlled Enma yet which is stopping him from using his full haki power.
 
#69
Zoro tells Enma to release more of it i.e haki so it seems like he hasn't fully tamed/controlled Enma yet which is stopping him from using his full haki power.
And I do get that but it still makes me question why did try his other two swords only. We did see him using blackened haki earlier. But at the end of the day plot is plot.

I'm sure this fight is going to get better and it's going to be awesome once everybody stops messing around.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#70
I like this chapter but the supernovas attacks appear to be a case of plot induced stupidity (PIS).

Law dropped rocks on Kaido. Yes, rocks. Did he really think that was going to do anything? He should at least try to cut him in half with his DF power. I don't believe it's going to be easy to cut a Yonko with his DF power. Even if it wouldn't have hurt him it could have slowed him down and been used to create a opening for someone else's attack.

Kidd thought that he was going to crush Kaido like he was a bug. Really? You were just surprised that a blunt attack worked against Kaido yet you thought you was going to crush him. Did you forget about the part where Kaido jumped off skypiea, landed right in front of your base, created a huge crater, and still didn't sustain any injuries.

Luffy decides to use a non internal barrier haki attack knowing it won't hurt Kaido. That was the same power that failed to damage Kaido during their first encounter. That was directly after he's an attack that could hurt him. Why didn't you just use that same attack again?

Zoro used blackened haki against Pica and Killer but against Kaido he doesn't even use invisible haki. Seriously? Did he think his physical strength was so powerful he could hurt Kaido without haki?

Killer believes they have a chance to defeat Kaido because Luffy can hurt him with a blunt attack thanks to his unique haki yet he attacked him nonetheless with a none haki attack. I thought he was smart.
I thinks it's the usual start of the battle, would be odd if all 5 opened up with their very best...
They seem to be just testing how deep the water is. But yeah, I facepalmed at Law's rocks...
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
#72
Basica Nen that you can use to intimidate people and make they retreat is Conqueror's Haki.
How the fuck do people deny the similarity? The Nen system is great, and Oda have wet dreams thinking he could come up with something as good as that for One Piece.
His haki system sucks ass. That should be consensus at this point.

Togashi have these HUGE exposition moments, where you feel you are reading a book, and not a manga, but AT LEAST he plays by the rules he creates. He doesn't treat his audience as a bunch of idiots who glady accepts whatever he pulls up from his ass.
 
#73
The Kong gun obviously didnt use any. No barrier, let alone internal destruction. If it did, it will perform better than the Red Roc used barrier imo. Also, if Luffy used any new PU, usually it will be obvious by the name change, as Luffy tend to fuse the rubber fruit and the new PUs to form new attack names.

That Kong Gun is Luffy playing underdog as usual.
 
#74
I prefer the Haki system ( I must say that I am not a fan of Hunter x Hunter )

The thing justifying Haki is Logia, and there is lot of characters with Logia.

Crocodile losing because of water ? That wasn't very convincing .
Ace fire losing to Akainu magma ? Not great either.

So we got Haki.

But sometimes Haki isn't great. Honestly "future vision" haki should have not existed. Because at top level, everybody will have to possess it to be relevant in battles.

And Haki is black, then why we didn't see black haki at Marineford ?
Then High level Haki is not black anymore, it's translucide.

One Pièce is a very long manga. Mistakes has been made.

Actual system could have been far worse.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
#75
There are 0 reaons why Oda can't get help to make scripts, people to make sure everything is tied up nicely.
One Piece being long as it is, is more of a reason to get this kind of help. If Oda wants to write everything on his own, than his mistakes are his own. If he chose it, than so be it. And if he has this kind of help, and still come up with these trash ass confusing things, than it only makes the case worse.
But i'm not gonna accept whatever crap he throws at me just because "One Piece is too long and he is tired".
Same thing happened with those shitty ass Game of Thrones seasons after they didn't have any book to copy. It was a shit show since season 5. But people only opened their eyes after the abomination that was the last season.
All because the showrunner clowns decided "they wanted to have total control over the script" and didnt hire any help.
 
#76
i like hxh like the other guy, but to stand shoulder to shoulder to op that shit needs to be releasing new stuff consistently

togashi, just please took an L and hire some assistant. that gal who draw act age is good and unocupied

for reader who caught up before hxh 2011 anime, it feels like eternity. everytime i see hxh i see big fucking wasted potential
 
#77
The HxH and One Piece ''rivalry'' has always been dumb and people comparing haki to nen make no sense, they were never meant to be similar or have the same appeal. Haki is just a basic martial arts booster while Nen is THE main combat system and driving appeal of the narrative, Devil fruits are thematically closer to nen than haki.
one piece is full garbage compared to hxh...
 
#80
Oda did not drop the ball with this.

He made it clear that when Luffy is using the new haki, the name of the attack changes. For Example: Elephant Gun turns into Red Roc.

He did not use the new haki against Pageone or in that Kong Gun against Kaido. He only used it once until now.

Now, why is he not using all the time? You can explain it with the fact that haki runs over with the progress of the fight, so he can't be using all the time, since he must preserve it for crucial moments.
 
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