Current Events Oda having the Flying Six not use Haki on the Straw Hats makes their wins not feel earned

[Lion of Olympus]

Since every Flying Six member apparently had Haki, having them not use it against the Straw Hats is one of the dumbest decisions ever. Having them apparently hold back and not use Haki makes the Straw Hats’ wins feel disappointing and not earned.

I have no idea why Oda did this, it’s like he’s afraid of the Straw Hats bar Luffy having to actually push themselves for an extreme diff fight lol. It feels like he’s been holding their hand throughout the New World and it doesn’t feel satisfying at all...

What do you guys think of this?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

That what happens when Oda only wants to give extrem diff fights to Luffy Like he could push them to awake/improve their haki

 

[sanjikun]

Some of them clearly didn't have hardening. Just basic invisible CoA. Same thing as Trebol and Diamante.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Or they did use Haki but they just don’t have strong haki.

 

[BornInAbyss]

Since every Flying Six member apparently had Haki, having them not use it against the Straw Hats is one of the dumbest decisions ever. Having them apparently hold back and not use Haki makes the Straw Hats’ wins feel disappointing and not earned.

I have no idea why Oda did this, it’s like he’s afraid of the Straw Hats bar Luffy having to actually push themselves for an extreme diff fight lol. It feels like he’s been holding their hand throughout the New World and it doesn’t feel satisfying at all...

What do you guys think of this?

I agree on that. They should've used Haki so the strawhats haki could also bloom and develop..

 

[sanjikun]

The Black Haki is a High Mid Tier marker. That's what separated Vergo/Pica from Trebol/Diamante, and it's what separates WW from BM/Sasaki.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

The Black Haki is a High Mid Tier marker. That's what separated Vergo/Pica from Trebol/Diamante, and it's what separates WW from BM/Sasaki.

So Ulti is the second strongest roppo?

 

[BornInAbyss]

So Ulti is the second strongest roppo?

She had for sure better feats than the other ones. She almost pushed luffy into G4

 

[sanjikun]

So Ulti is the second strongest roppo?

Either her or X-Drake.

 

[Seth]

Since every Flying Six member apparently had Haki, having them not use it against the Straw Hats is one of the dumbest decisions ever. Having them apparently hold back and not use Haki makes the Straw Hats’ wins feel disappointing and not earned.

I have no idea why Oda did this, it’s like he’s afraid of the Straw Hats bar Luffy having to actually push themselves for an extreme diff fight lol. It feels like he’s been holding their hand throughout the New World and it doesn’t feel satisfying at all...

What do you guys think of this?

Agree.

But imagine the clownery level on Tobi Roppo's asses if Oda writes one of the Tobi Roppo say: "Muh Haki wasn't enough".

 

[Uncle Van]

Some believe the Toppi Robbo don't have Hardening when WsW easily showed it? Even Bellamy has it.

 

[sanjikun]

If you want to compare it to G5, when we got proper intro to it, you have something like

Tashigi = Basic CoA -> Used by BM/Sasaki
Smoker = Regular Hardening -> Used by Ulti?
Vergo = Super Hardening -> Used by High/Top Tiers

We saw Vergo's Haki > Smoker's Haki > Tashigi's Haki

Some believe the Toppi Robbo don't have Hardening when WsW easily showed it? Even Bellamy has it.

Man, you're annoying. The argument is only SOME of them have it.

Even Bellamy has it.

Yes, Bellamy > Robin/Franky. (At least for now)

 

[Lhulu]

If you want to compare it to G5, when we got proper intro to it, you have something like

Tashigi = Basic CoA -> Used by BM/Sasaki
Smoker = Regular Hardening -> Used by Ulti?
Vergo = Super Hardening -> Used by High/Top Tiers

We saw Vergo's Haki > Smoker's Haki > Tashigi's Haki

Man, you're annoying. The argument is only SOME of them have it.



Yes, Bellamy > Robin/Franky. (At least for now)

I don't think "Super hardening" exists.

One hardening can be stronger than other one, just that
The technique still the same.

 

[sanjikun]

I don't think "Super hardening" exists.

One hardening can be stronger than other one, just that
The technique still the same.

Nah. Vivre cards called Vergo "Super Hardening". "Cho Koka".

 

[Mackiss]

I think oda trying to make haki be something basic that everyone have and not something great to show off (exceptv Adv. Versions)

 

[Lhulu]

Nah. Vivre cards called Vergo "Super Hardening". "Cho Koka".

This term was used for other character?

If not I think this is just saying that Vergo's CoA was above the other(and in PH he was a real beast). If yes, well,maybe you're right.

 

[humanbeing]

Tashigi can use haki but never saw her use it. it doesn't have to be black hardening.
the Samaurai fought Kaido and were able to hurt him , stab him , and draw blood but we never saw them use black hardening against him with only one exception as they 4 of them attacked together and used Oden's sword style.
no it doesn't make any difference.

 

[draganax]

I don't expect quality plotting from oda anymore, the 3 hours of sleep effected his writing capabilities in a negative way, it will continue untill one piece becomes unreadable.

Just the fact that most of the straw hats not having haki is a clear proof of bad writing.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I don't expect quality plotting from oda anymore, the 3 hours of sleep effected his writing capabilities in a negative way, it will continue untill one piece becomes unreadable.

Just the fact that most of the straw hats not having haki is a clear proof of bad writing.

When you realize we're nearing the end yet a simple logia would be enough to put like half the straw hats into big trouble

 

[Uncle Van]

If you want to compare it to G5, when we got proper intro to it, you have



Man, you're annoying. The argument is only SOME of them have it.



Yes, Bellamy > Robin/Franky. (At least for now)

They all have hardening