Powers & Abilities Oda just retconed Hawkins's straw man.

[draganax]

Just because it has a downside doesn't mean it isn't good luck since out of all cards the one he pulled was suited for chasing after them, the idea would be that an active reversed card transfers damage to Hawkins and an upright doesn't, in the chase scene even a reversed card wouldn't matter since he had plenty of extra lives so pulling a ''pursuit'' would be fortuitous.

i believe the cards only controls the straw man and the minions behaviour or predicts the future. and the damage transfer thing is a passive effect of the devil fruit and has nothing to do with the cards.

behaviour controlling cards:
-fool reversed: in fighting
-hierophant reversed: pursuit
-death upright: annihilation

future prediction cards:
-hierophant upright: reinforcement
-the tower upright: opening of a new path

nothing suggests that the cards have an effect on the damage transferring.

 

[nik87]

Taking about his cards. What about his Limit braking card? Will he use it in Wano.or in the future

It is the giant Strawman that he used vs Zoro and now vs Killer...
That card is surpassing the limits of his body.
The Strawman had enough power for Zoro to be bothered by it.
No way that the regular body of Hawkins has that much power.

 

[draganax]

Taking about his cards. What about his Limit braking card? Will he use it in Wano.or in the future

that's interesting! maybe he still has some role to play in the future.

wait, i just noticed that when zoro killed straw man, hawkins didn't drop a damaged doll like he always does, he lost a fodder instead.
maybe straw man is in itself a doll, and hawkins didn't link it to himself this time, but to some unknown person.

damage=>hawkins=>fodder=>doll /// if the damage isn't lethal then: damage=>hawkins=>fodder
damage=>fodder=>doll ::: when the fodder was killed directly the damage transferred to the doll but not hawkins
damage=>doll=>fodder ::: when the doll was killed directly the damage transferred to the fodder but not hawkins

maybe that why hawkins said he can resurrect straw man, he still got fodder to spare.

 

[Raughtale]

i believe the cards only controls the straw man and the minions behaviour or predicts the future. and the damage transfer thing is a passive effect of the devil fruit and has nothing to do with the cards.

behaviour controlling cards:
-fool reversed: in fighting
-hierophant reversed: pursuit
-death upright: annihilation

future prediction cards:
-hierophant upright: reinforcement
-the tower upright: opening of a new path

nothing suggests that the cards have an effect on the damage transferring.

Yeah the cards are just from a theory perspective assuming it isn't a retcon, I also like the other headcanon idea of Hawkins having extra lives having the downside of his Strawman also transferring damage to him (if no extra lives then the ''Strawman lives by the cards'' rule apply)

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Can't retcon something that wasn't fully explained!

the ultimate oda trick. i respect him for this lol

 

[draganax]

Yeah the cards are just from a theory perspective assuming it isn't a retcon, I also like the other headcanon idea of Hawkins having extra lives having the downside of his Strawman also transferring damage to him (if no extra lives then the ''Strawman lives by the cards'' rule apply)

i have a new headcanon theory that the straw man is also a doll.
so basically all the dolls are called straw man, and they're a stand-in for hawkins's followers' lives.
if you lose the doll you lose the fodder and vice versa, same logic could be applied on the big straw man, maybe it was linked to some unknown fodder.

 

[Finalbeta]

You guys feel Hawkins will ever get his arm back?

 

[CartoonHeroes]

Time to summon exodia

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

that's factually not how it works , when Zoro killed the straw man the damage FIRST transferred to Hawkins AND THEN it transferred to Fodder , so using this information this chapter seemed inconsistent unless there is Info about Hawkins powers that we are not aware of WICH IS BASICALLY GUARANTEED

If Hawkins can use his devil fruit to link to other people, then obviously he can link his own body to his own devil fruit ability when he draws the right card. There is nothing that indicates or limits him to ALWAYS being linked to his Strawman, which forms from his Sword. If he has ran out of Voodoo dolls linking him to someone else, then why would he attack with his Strawman, linked to himself? That'd be dumb as hell, as it gives his opponent multiple options for a target. Not to mention, Hawkins literally said the Strawman's fate is linked to the cards.

 

[Owl Ki]

You know, it would be pretty funny if Oda deliberately left Hawkins's powers vague so that he could have a meta joke regarding the fandom arguing over a literal straw man.

 

[Krusher1357]

Time to summon exodia

I got his left leg

 

[Ricassian]

that strawman was the result of a different card (the hierophant if I'm not wrong), while this is the result of another card (Death) so maybe they work differently

Probably this, the Strawman that fought Zoro was also armed with a different weapon so it's possible that every card has a different personification of the Strawman and with it changes the way Hawkins is bonded with it.
In some cases (like the Hierophant) the Strawman is a big monstrous personification of Hawkins body (so the damage inflicted to the Strawman is directly transfered to his real body) while in other cases (like the Death) the Strawman acts as a completely detached entity.

If you notice, in the skirmish with Zoro, Hawkins had to perform the attacks himself so that they were replicated in a more overwhelming fashion by the Strawman (a puppeteer-puppet connection)

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But in the fight with Killer the Strawman was performing the attack by himself.

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a decent explanation could be that it's the result of the card either being "upright" or "reversed" , with 1 transfering damage and not the other , still if you think about it Hawkins powers have SO MANY different elements like :
- Card extraction ---> can be used for battle or fortune telling
- Straw sword ---> can be used for attacks or to work in unison with Straw man
- Straw dolls ---> damage transfer thing , the process to get link a straw doll to a person is still unknown too
- Straw man ---> a WHOLE DECK OF DIFFERENT MOVES ( reminder that he can also transform himself in the straw man like in sabaody)
Hawkins might just have THE most complex battle powers in the verse so i think it's not fair to say "Oda just forgot" because we dont know much about the mechanics in the first place

Also this
Upright/Reversed may be the key too

 

[Nel-Zel fiasco]

Can't retcon something that wasn't fully explained!

agreed, we don,t really know hawkins ability especially his cards n straw man theme in the cards so gonna hold my judgement about his ability for now

 

[Dsranime]

2 possible reason for that:
- Hawkins use a different card;
- The Strawman detached himself from Hawkins sword so he could follow Luffy and Zoro, and Hawkins's life was connect with the Strawman so he could control his movements, you could see that the Strawman was mimicing Hawkins moves. In this chapter he didn't detached from Hawkins's sword and was just being manipulated this way. That is why their lives weren't connected.