General & Others Oda needs to learn from Togashi on how to handle power ups and fights.
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Luffy trained for G2 and G3. I dont have problems with it. Its not outta nowhere like Nika form and Adult Gon. However lets be real is the Nika form ever gonna have drawbacks like Adult Gon. Hell to the fuck no. Did any of Luffy's tier jumps in haki ever do ? Nope.
I never stated Gon > Luffy only due to combat. Gon is a trillion times better than Luffy due to a vast array of things. Combat was only the topic of dissusion here. And yes Gon is also far more compeling if hes not plot armour relaint like Luffy.
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I never stated Gon > Luffy only due to combat. Gon is a trillion times better than Luffy due to a vast array of things. Combat was only the topic of dissusion here. And yes Gon is also far more compeling if hes not plot armour relaint like Luffy.
Yeah the idea that Oda would forever stick with rock paper scissors on DF fights is pretty contrived. It's the same sort of dead end Araki hit with Hamon. OoH a SaLt SwOrD aGaInSt AoKiJi
We saw Garp hint at armament shortly after the gears showed up and by that point it was already pretty obvious that the series wasn't halfway done.
We saw Garp hint at armament shortly after the gears showed up and by that point it was already pretty obvious that the series wasn't halfway done.
Hiatus x Hiatus clowns, pretending that their dead comic is a valid comparison for anything.
In 390 chapter Hiatus x Hiatus pulled a thousand different power ups, called it a system, had the MC "sacrifice" his powers just to regain it, and compare it to one piece.
When One Piece was at chapter 390 the only power up we had seen was gear second.
The only one.
Hiatus x Hiatus clowns should wonder why that series could never have the foundation to even reach a 1000 chapters.
Naruto is cool but shits the bed when literally everything done is trivialised by jesus naruto one shotting every enemy and ninja skills being reduced to ki blasts.
In 390 chapter Hiatus x Hiatus pulled a thousand different power ups, called it a system, had the MC "sacrifice" his powers just to regain it, and compare it to one piece.
When One Piece was at chapter 390 the only power up we had seen was gear second.
The only one.
Hiatus x Hiatus clowns should wonder why that series could never have the foundation to even reach a 1000 chapters.
Naruto is cool but shits the bed when literally everything done is trivialised by jesus naruto one shotting every enemy and ninja skills being reduced to ki blasts.
We know that Haki is based on the characters will power. Luffy's G4 consumes so much Haki he has a "time limit" before he can use it again, that is certainly a drawback. Nika form could kill him to which we have Law to play the role of "Nanika". You are counting your chickens before they hatch here is all I am saying. Could I be wrong? Yes, I can be wrong, and if I am proven wrong I will graciously admit it. Until then Oda has setup the pieces in a way that makes sense for Luffy to be saved in Gon-esq fashion, but with better foreshadowing for how Luffy can be saved. So much so that there are many theories for when how Law gives up his life for him.
My thinking is more inline with this theory but I will not ignore the fact that Chopper could save Luffy (and Zoro) at the end of this arc.
My thinking is more inline with this theory but I will not ignore the fact that Chopper could save Luffy (and Zoro) at the end of this arc.
Yeah unless he turned everyone into a df user it wouldn't work, physical strength alone wont get you the win against gura, logia, Law's hax which ignores physical stats, swords/weapons in general would get easily broken by these various abilities without haki and the list goes on. But if he gave everyone a df what's the point, haki is dormant in everyone in the OP verse anyway.
Yeah Oda really sucks at handling fights. Not only is there serious inconsistencies in haki usage, but Oda also sucks at just drawing fights. The paneling can get too cluttered sometimes, making it difficult to determine what sequence of events is happening. Did Luffy punch then twist, then punch again? Also with haki being an "invisible power" it's hard to see when it's being used. Was AdCoC used? Idk, the black lightning would suggest so, but Oda has used this lightning in other fights/clashes.
I get the feeling that Oda didn't lay the ground work for what exactly haki was since the beginning. We're literally just now learning about AdCoC, a whole 600 ass chapters since haki was introduced. That is insane. Oda should have laid out exactly what haki was going to be, how it worked, tiers of progression for the power system, and by god a better way to draw it then a limb turning black, or black lightning spewing from a clash. It makes things very difficult to see who's winning, or who has stronger haki.
I get the feeling that Oda didn't lay the ground work for what exactly haki was since the beginning. We're literally just now learning about AdCoC, a whole 600 ass chapters since haki was introduced. That is insane. Oda should have laid out exactly what haki was going to be, how it worked, tiers of progression for the power system, and by god a better way to draw it then a limb turning black, or black lightning spewing from a clash. It makes things very difficult to see who's winning, or who has stronger haki.
It's weird because judging by some comments, most people were very young in 2007 and not actually reading. Readers even back then knew a timeskip was inevitable and that it would bring a new way of fighting, because there wasn't an answer for beating Ener or Aokiji based on what we saw. We thought Rokushiki was a big enough wall to cause this, when it debuted.
And now we're ten years out from the time skip, but there are people who started reading after Haki was introduced talking about Haki as if it's something new lol.
And now we're ten years out from the time skip, but there are people who started reading after Haki was introduced talking about Haki as if it's something new lol.
