Powers & Abilities Oda's Kaidou hype is fake
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“Anybody” isn’t the same as “anything” my guy. Barriers an string aren’t people, an I addressed mama already.
Simple shit, why’d u need the difference explained
Simple shit, why’d u need the difference explained
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ultimatey kaido losing this arc
not sure why yall are banking on next chap
you think that changes what happened this chap. like we lose our memory...
clown shit
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his invincibility was always fake
he lost 7 times already
but his durability was hyped
and kinemon okiku pierced through it . enough said.
For what we saw, WB didn't fight Kaido after he (WB) reached his peak (36 years ago). No hint at all, no statement and WB doesn't have even a reason. And he only went at Wano once, and he didn't like it. And Marco confirmed they didn't know about Oden's death.
The thing about Kaido's presentation (that somehow told us that even Yonko couldn't kill him, is false. BM didn't fight Kaido too in the last decades, most probably. Information author gave us for hype most likely).
Only Shanks, maybe, fought with him a bit, 2 years ago.
And even if Navy captured him, that doesn't mean high ranked officials (Viceadmirals, Admirals) would make the job of a executioner. They didn't even kill people from lvl 6 in ID.
Like I said, those are examples for hype only. Crap examples btw. Ohhh, a spear broke because his skin is too hard!! Cof cof the random guy in Corrida Coliseum tanking without a scratch an axe coated with Armament cof cof > Kaido's examples...
The thing is, we already have feats and good hype for BM's hardness. And Kaido should be equal or above, probably above because of this hype author gave him. So the thing that happened this week, is only for the narrative, it's an outlier in PL but well, author didn't give a crap about it and his japanese boys (samurais) had a grudge of 20 years against the chinese (dragon) and Wano is Japan basically.
So Kaido is still someone with a monstruous durability/hardness.
Btw, Enma was nothing special against Kaido, Oden didn't use its special ability cause both cuts on his chest have the same size and the other sword doesn't have that ability.
The hype was more for Zoro, because this sword basically makes harder to control the Haki, so Zoro controlling it = better Haki. Well, maybe we will see that special ability again, who knows.
The thing about Kaido's presentation (that somehow told us that even Yonko couldn't kill him, is false. BM didn't fight Kaido too in the last decades, most probably. Information author gave us for hype most likely).
Only Shanks, maybe, fought with him a bit, 2 years ago.
And even if Navy captured him, that doesn't mean high ranked officials (Viceadmirals, Admirals) would make the job of a executioner. They didn't even kill people from lvl 6 in ID.
Like I said, those are examples for hype only. Crap examples btw. Ohhh, a spear broke because his skin is too hard!! Cof cof the random guy in Corrida Coliseum tanking without a scratch an axe coated with Armament cof cof > Kaido's examples...
The thing is, we already have feats and good hype for BM's hardness. And Kaido should be equal or above, probably above because of this hype author gave him. So the thing that happened this week, is only for the narrative, it's an outlier in PL but well, author didn't give a crap about it and his japanese boys (samurais) had a grudge of 20 years against the chinese (dragon) and Wano is Japan basically.
So Kaido is still someone with a monstruous durability/hardness.
Btw, Enma was nothing special against Kaido, Oden didn't use its special ability cause both cuts on his chest have the same size and the other sword doesn't have that ability.
The hype was more for Zoro, because this sword basically makes harder to control the Haki, so Zoro controlling it = better Haki. Well, maybe we will see that special ability again, who knows.
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I mean if you see, and they should know it when they have captured him and fought him, how spears and other weapons are breaking off his body, maybe you should realize that this way you can't execute Kaidou and maybe try it yourself?
If this is really the only things they tried to kill Kaidou, letting some fodder try to pierce his body with some blades, i will laugh my ass off...
If this is really the only things they tried to kill Kaidou, letting some fodder try to pierce his body with some blades, i will laugh my ass off...
Actually Oda did a good thing by "humanizing" Kaido otherwise he has to look for another "Madarish" plot in Naruto if he makes Kaido god like creature.....
people will injure him? sure
people will defeat him? sure if they ganged up...remember he had 7 loses in his piracy life....
But by portrayal "1 vs 1", always bet on Kaido...
Regarding suicide thing and no one could kill him, I think people should stop taking everything "literally"....ever heard of "figure of speech"....we have yet to know fully about Kaido, so I won't to be quick to judge regarding this "suicide" or "no one can kill him" thing....
Regarding 9 rs hurting him while g4 didn't make rs > g4 luffy because it took g4 punch to break cracker biscuits while it took climatact of Nami to nullify cracker powers eventhough Nami << Luffy....
people will injure him? sure
people will defeat him? sure if they ganged up...remember he had 7 loses in his piracy life....
But by portrayal "1 vs 1", always bet on Kaido...
Regarding suicide thing and no one could kill him, I think people should stop taking everything "literally"....ever heard of "figure of speech"....we have yet to know fully about Kaido, so I won't to be quick to judge regarding this "suicide" or "no one can kill him" thing....
Regarding 9 rs hurting him while g4 didn't make rs > g4 luffy because it took g4 punch to break cracker biscuits while it took climatact of Nami to nullify cracker powers eventhough Nami << Luffy....
The most notable ''fact'' about Kaidou is that ''Nobody was/is able to kill him''. I don't buy that.
Kaidou was captured multiple times by other Yonkou and Marines, 2 ''factions'' which have the most powerfull people in their lines. And appereantly no one was able to kill Kaidou.
On the other side, we got Luffy who learned the Advanced Haki (destroying from the inside) in 1 week and is sure that it will have effect on Kaidou and he will be able to actually damage him. If you can damage someone, you can kill him, if enough damage is done.
So does that mean no Yonkou or Admiral has this Advanced Haki? The strongest people in the OP world don't have that? While Rayleigh had (not downplaying him or anything)? How believable is that?
We also have the only person who have ever scarred Kaidou, Oden. Oden is not weak by any means, but we have seen he was not on WB's and Roger's level.
Oden used Haki on both swords in his clash with WB, while the second didn't use any Haki nor his DF. No one won the clash.
Oden was also overpowered by Roger's attack and got damaged, while actually blocking the attack.
Shortly after, he was also shocked/surprised at Roger's and WB's clash and how their weapons wasn't even touching.
This was the first time we have ever seen this level of Armament Haki. Kaidou surely has tried to fight WB in the past and most likely lost to him. But WB didn't scarr Kaidou - which based on his Haki level is really surprising.
Also the Rocks Pirates were crushed by Roger and Garp, yet the only scarr Kaidou has is from Oden.
Based on the pictures above, it seems Oden doesn't have Advanced Haki and especialy on this level himself. He also never showed any Advanced Haki - that doesn't mean he didn't had it when he scarred Kaidou, because when he joined Roger and fought Kaidou 6 years later, he could have learned it in that time, but it's just speculation. Unless i overlooked something, you are welcome to correct me.
There is also the thing with Enma which sucks out alot of Haki and make the user ''over use'' their own Haki, resulting in creating stronger attacks. But it can use so much, that it literally dries out the user, if not able to controll it. This surely played a role in Oden scarring Kaidou, by giving Oden the ability to use more Haki than he by himself ever could - just speculation, but that's where Enma points too IMO. Which kinda makes Enma deus ex maschina, but whatever.
So you have stronger guys with stronger Haki than Oden, not able to scarr Kaidou...
We have seen ''fake hype'' by Oda before. The best example is Garp saying the Marines could not handle 2 Legends at the same time, talking about WB and Rayleigh - which is compete nonsense and was disproved by the MF Arc.
So do you think Oda just didn't care about this ''plothole'' and just wanted to create this extreme ''hype'' for Kaidou? Or do you think it all makes sense?
Kaidou was captured multiple times by other Yonkou and Marines, 2 ''factions'' which have the most powerfull people in their lines. And appereantly no one was able to kill Kaidou.
On the other side, we got Luffy who learned the Advanced Haki (destroying from the inside) in 1 week and is sure that it will have effect on Kaidou and he will be able to actually damage him. If you can damage someone, you can kill him, if enough damage is done.
So does that mean no Yonkou or Admiral has this Advanced Haki? The strongest people in the OP world don't have that? While Rayleigh had (not downplaying him or anything)? How believable is that?
We also have the only person who have ever scarred Kaidou, Oden. Oden is not weak by any means, but we have seen he was not on WB's and Roger's level.
Oden used Haki on both swords in his clash with WB, while the second didn't use any Haki nor his DF. No one won the clash.
Also the Rocks Pirates were crushed by Roger and Garp, yet the only scarr Kaidou has is from Oden.
Based on the pictures above, it seems Oden doesn't have Advanced Haki and especialy on this level himself. He also never showed any Advanced Haki - that doesn't mean he didn't had it when he scarred Kaidou, because when he joined Roger and fought Kaidou 6 years later, he could have learned it in that time, but it's just speculation. Unless i overlooked something, you are welcome to correct me.
There is also the thing with Enma which sucks out alot of Haki and make the user ''over use'' their own Haki, resulting in creating stronger attacks. But it can use so much, that it literally dries out the user, if not able to controll it. This surely played a role in Oden scarring Kaidou, by giving Oden the ability to use more Haki than he by himself ever could - just speculation, but that's where Enma points too IMO. Which kinda makes Enma deus ex maschina, but whatever.
So you have stronger guys with stronger Haki than Oden, not able to scarr Kaidou...
We have seen ''fake hype'' by Oda before. The best example is Garp saying the Marines could not handle 2 Legends at the same time, talking about WB and Rayleigh - which is compete nonsense and was disproved by the MF Arc.
So do you think Oda just didn't care about this ''plothole'' and just wanted to create this extreme ''hype'' for Kaidou? Or do you think it all makes sense?
In order to hype Kaido he probably was refering either to his DF - the strongest creature, ie a dragon, which is somewhat confirmed by the current chapter - or either to some tricky things related probably to his body or durability, that he just can't die in any conventional way, despite losing, that's why you should bet on him in 1v1, usually.
Because, Oden, which was a top tier, wasn't the strongest in his era, despite beeing really strong, and he was literally two fingers away to beat kaido if it wasn't for the trick of the old roastie. You can't be the stronger - in his traditional and logical definition, ie powerwise - in 1v1, while you just can't beat without dirty tricks somebody that isn't even the second strongest.
Swordbois/admiral gang have already done that. Don’t play the idiot now, since ur horse shit post got slapped down.... anything =anybody smh
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U already know the argument, it’s the comparison of them falling from similar heights. BM likely dying while Kaido survives.
New chapter didn’t change anything yet. BM Cant be pierced by normal swords, and nothing indicates Kaido can be either. He was pierced with AcoA. BM still needs to come into contact with AcoA before it can be completely summed up. But Kaido still has the same edge he’s been had. Nothing change between the 2....
everybody will lose that’s irrelevant...
Next chapter will prove Kaido>Akainu, that’s why Yonko gangs wait on next chapter. Akainu against a group weaker then this couldn’t do
Nothing about this chapter needs to be chanced. It’s u clowns that seem to have memory lost. Basic haki all u need to bypass logia intangibility, an a sword can pierce normal skin. All this chapter proved was Kaido dragon scale> logia intangibility > normal skin
side note Laws cut somebody with AcoA already
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U already know the argument, it’s the comparison of them falling from similar heights. BM likely dying while Kaido survives.
New chapter didn’t change anything yet. BM Cant be pierced by normal swords, and nothing indicates Kaido can be either. He was pierced with AcoA. BM still needs to come into contact with AcoA before it can be completely summed up. But Kaido still has the same edge he’s been had. Nothing change between the 2....
everybody will lose that’s irrelevant...
Next chapter will prove Kaido>Akainu, that’s why Yonko gangs wait on next chapter. Akainu against a group weaker then this couldn’t do
Nothing about this chapter needs to be chanced. It’s u clowns that seem to have memory lost. Basic haki all u need to bypass logia intangibility, an a sword can pierce normal skin. All this chapter proved was Kaido dragon scale> logia intangibility > normal skin
side note Laws cut somebody with AcoA already
Swordbois/admiral gang have already done that. Don’t play the idiot now,since ur horse shit post got slapped down.. anything =anybody smh
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U already know the argument, it’s the comparison of them falling from similar heights. BM likely dying while Kaido survives.
New chapter didn’t change anything yet. BM Cant be pierced by normal swords, and nothing indicates Kaido can be either. He was pierced with AcoA. BM still needs to come into contact with AcoA before it can be completely summed up. But Kaido still has the same edge he’s been had.
everybody will lose that’s irrelevant...
Next chapter will prove Kaido>Akainu, that’s why Yonko gangs wait on next chapter.
Nothing about this chapter needs to be chanced. It’s u clowns that seem to have memory lost. Basic haki all u need to bypass logia intangibility, an a sword can pierce normal skin. All this chapter proved was Kaido dragon scale> logia intangibility > normal skin
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U already know the argument, it’s the comparison of them falling from similar heights. BM likely dying while Kaido survives.
New chapter didn’t change anything yet. BM Cant be pierced by normal swords, and nothing indicates Kaido can be either. He was pierced with AcoA. BM still needs to come into contact with AcoA before it can be completely summed up. But Kaido still has the same edge he’s been had.
everybody will lose that’s irrelevant...
Next chapter will prove Kaido>Akainu, that’s why Yonko gangs wait on next chapter.
Nothing about this chapter needs to be chanced. It’s u clowns that seem to have memory lost. Basic haki all u need to bypass logia intangibility, an a sword can pierce normal skin. All this chapter proved was Kaido dragon scale> logia intangibility > normal skin
we got new evidence this chap
big mom durability > kaido
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Swordbois/admiral gang have already done that. Don’t play the idiot now,since ur horse shit post got slapped down.. anything =anybody smh
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U already know the argument, it’s the comparison of them falling from similar heights. BM likely dying while Kaido survives.
New chapter didn’t change anything yet. BM Cant be pierced by normal swords, and nothing indicates Kaido can be either. He was pierced with AcoA. BM still needs to come into contact with AcoA before it can be completely summed up. But Kaido still has the same edge he’s been had.
everybody will lose that’s irrelevant...
Next chapter will prove Kaido>Akainu, that’s why Yonko gangs wait on next chapter.
Nothing about this chapter needs to be chanced. It’s u clowns that seem to have memory lost. Basic haki all u need to bypass logia intangibility, an a sword can pierce normal skin. All this chapter proved was Kaido dragon scale> logia intangibility > normal skin
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U already know the argument, it’s the comparison of them falling from similar heights. BM likely dying while Kaido survives.
New chapter didn’t change anything yet. BM Cant be pierced by normal swords, and nothing indicates Kaido can be either. He was pierced with AcoA. BM still needs to come into contact with AcoA before it can be completely summed up. But Kaido still has the same edge he’s been had.
everybody will lose that’s irrelevant...
Next chapter will prove Kaido>Akainu, that’s why Yonko gangs wait on next chapter.
Nothing about this chapter needs to be chanced. It’s u clowns that seem to have memory lost. Basic haki all u need to bypass logia intangibility, an a sword can pierce normal skin. All this chapter proved was Kaido dragon scale> logia intangibility > normal skin
is he fighting akainu next chap
I don't get why people thought Kaido was untouchable when he was literally introduced as having being defeated 7 times. His hype was being almost impossible kill, maybe because combined to his durability he got some insane regen due to his mythic zoan, we saw in the last chapter that his wounds already disappeared at the end. Where did Oda lie? Did the scabbards kill Kaido? Was Raizo able to cut Kaido's neck?
no no
we got new evidence this chap
big mom durability > kaido
we got new evidence this chap
big mom durability > kaido
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how will next chap prove kaido > akainu
is he fighting akainu next chap
is he fighting akainu next chap
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proof?? Bring panel evidence Kaido can be pierced by normal blades, or BM can’t be Pierce by blaze with AcoA. Otherwise ur talkin our ur ass like usual
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how will next chap prove kaido > akainu
is he fighting akainu next chap
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how will next chap prove kaido > akainu
is he fighting akainu next chap
bring panel big mom can be pierced with advcoa blades