Future Events Oda's killing problem - does he have the guts to kill Kaido?
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Zoro killing someone does not go against his image, imo. When he became a swordsman, he was resigned to the fact he might have to kill people. As a wise man once said -
But what was always my biggest gripe against Zoro Killing Kaido isn't Zoro killing him, it's how it has to be depicted. Would Oda allow a brutal decapitation in his family friendly manga, and have it be celebrated? Because unlike Ace or Newgate's deaths, Kaido's would be considered a moment of triumph for our heroes, unless there's another piece of Kaido's character we're missing for his death to have some tragedy for us.
And what of Yamato? They claim to hate their father, but that's easier said than done. If they are to become a Strawhat, it would be very awkward to be sailing on the same ship as the man who murdered your father. Is there still some inkling of affection there? How does Oda reconcile it if he does go the route of Kaido being slain.
Lastly, I wonder how serious Kaido is about dying. When he was struck down by Oden and given an opening, he was quick to retaliate. When Linlin warned him about Zoro's dangerous attack, he was quick to comply. Does Kaido want to die? Is it just dying, or does it have to happen in a way he desires? A common trend amongst the Ds is that they do not run from death when faced with it. They know if they are to die here, they will die. But Kaido could be different, he might want to die a certain way, when his terms are met, and only tries his luck because he is hard to kill. Though he never takes it if the risk is too high.
What I'm saying is, we really need a Kaido flashback.
But what was always my biggest gripe against Zoro Killing Kaido isn't Zoro killing him, it's how it has to be depicted. Would Oda allow a brutal decapitation in his family friendly manga, and have it be celebrated? Because unlike Ace or Newgate's deaths, Kaido's would be considered a moment of triumph for our heroes, unless there's another piece of Kaido's character we're missing for his death to have some tragedy for us.
And what of Yamato? They claim to hate their father, but that's easier said than done. If they are to become a Strawhat, it would be very awkward to be sailing on the same ship as the man who murdered your father. Is there still some inkling of affection there? How does Oda reconcile it if he does go the route of Kaido being slain.
Lastly, I wonder how serious Kaido is about dying. When he was struck down by Oden and given an opening, he was quick to retaliate. When Linlin warned him about Zoro's dangerous attack, he was quick to comply. Does Kaido want to die? Is it just dying, or does it have to happen in a way he desires? A common trend amongst the Ds is that they do not run from death when faced with it. They know if they are to die here, they will die. But Kaido could be different, he might want to die a certain way, when his terms are met, and only tries his luck because he is hard to kill. Though he never takes it if the risk is too high.
What I'm saying is, we really need a Kaido flashback.
He wasn’t going after Orochi because he was a ruler of wano he was going after him because we wanted to avenge Yasuie lol killing Kaido doesn’t change that orochi killed yasuie, Kaido didn’t make orochi kill Yasuie.
What lol? That’s literally an example of the same thing. Zoro said he’ll definitely do something, he attempted to kill orochi but was stopped. Yes Kaido and orochi were allied but so what lol?
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What lol? That’s literally an example of the same thing. Zoro said he’ll definitely do something, he attempted to kill orochi but was stopped. Yes Kaido and orochi were allied but so what lol?
If Oda couldn't write Kyros killing scumbag Diamante off. Highly doubtful for Oda to kill Kaido off because that his dream and he likes to write villians getting their dreams shattered.
I foresee Oda going with this direction.. After Luffy defeats Kaido, Kaido yells at him to kill him but Luffy says No!So Kaido will get his dream destroyed by a person who is strong enough to kill him but refuses therefore the weak do not have the right to choose how they die. Foreshadowing by Law in punk hazard in chapter 662.
I foresee Oda going with this direction.. After Luffy defeats Kaido, Kaido yells at him to kill him but Luffy says No!So Kaido will get his dream destroyed by a person who is strong enough to kill him but refuses therefore the weak do not have the right to choose how they die. Foreshadowing by Law in punk hazard in chapter 662.
Also is it just me or does blackbeard having the dragon fruit (and the fight not too far away if its before raftel) become repetitive and horribly mundane.
I dont know why on earth he never took marcos (if indeed he is to have a third)
As straight up regeneration negates the drawback of the yami. Though typing that out makes me realise how overpowered to fuck that would be.
I dont know why on earth he never took marcos (if indeed he is to have a third)
As straight up regeneration negates the drawback of the yami. Though typing that out makes me realise how overpowered to fuck that would be.
This actually fits perfectly with my speculation that Kaido use to be a weakling prior to eating his Devil Fruit. I forgot about that statement. Kaido constantly seeking to die a glorious death fits the motif that as a weakling he didn't have the option, which is why he is so adamant on trying to choose a battle of his own death now that he has acquired power. Man that would be a huge blow to his psyche if that happened.
Kaido want to die because He been living too long in Roger era when Rock died in God valley incident but y'all remember when Kaido fell down from sky front of kidd alliance because suicide bullshit and oda did plot armor on kaido for don't die yet when worst generation will come to wano and slice your head kaido.
I don't think so Oda did plot armor on this kaido for some reason.
I don't think so Oda did plot armor on this kaido for some reason.I don’t really see how killing Zoro killing Kaido avenges Yasuie, I mean it’s only because he’s not in the picture anymore that we would have to assume in this situation hypothetically that Zoro wants to kill Kaido for that reason. His target in terms of avenging Yasuie was Orochi. If Zoro had killed him he would have said that we had avenged Yasuie. The whole scene with Hiyori and the entire build up of that sub plot was going in this direction. Like if a solider killed my friend and that solider is dead killing the general doesn’t make me feel like I’ve avenged my friend. I mean that’s just my opinion.
I was more saying that Zoro saying he’s definitely going to do something doesn’t mean that it’s set in stone and that’s that. There’s countless examples of saying you’re going to do something and not doing it. Like Luffy saying he’ll save Ace. I don’t know who’s going to kill Kaido or what’s going to happen I’m not trying to debate about that I already gave my opinion on that matter and the possibilities I see
I was more saying that Zoro saying he’s definitely going to do something doesn’t mean that it’s set in stone and that’s that. There’s countless examples of saying you’re going to do something and not doing it. Like Luffy saying he’ll save Ace. I don’t know who’s going to kill Kaido or what’s going to happen I’m not trying to debate about that I already gave my opinion on that matter and the possibilities I see
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