General & Others Oda's writing

#3
The most irritating thing for me is the amount of PIS Luffy gets.

Its truly ridiculous that at times it removes me from the story - similarly to when Luffy just so happens to be saved by Robin when defeated by Crocodile, then to be defeated again only to be saved by water he spit in the air ??? like seriously ??

But I get it, it's a Shonen and there is a lot of PIS in them.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
#4
1. Oda is intentionally very vague when it comes to power scaling. It works to keep the readers guessing but Oda loves to take liberties because of it, creating a plethora of inconsistent scenes and lots of PIS. It's gotten to the point where even REAL portrayal is vague and completely dependent on what Oda wants to do at the moment. You cant trust anything nowadays.

2. His reliance on gags to sustain a character instead of actual development.

3. His love of constantly shoving minor characters with little importance at the forefront and giving them a ton of screentime instead of more important characters. Dressrosa took those to 11.
 
#6
1. Oda is intentionally very vague when it comes to power scaling. It works to keep the readers guessing but Oda loves to take liberties because of it, creating a plethora of inconsistent scenes and plots of PIS. It's gotten to the point where even REAL portrayal is vague and completely dependent on what Oda wants to do at the moment. You cant trust anything nowadays.
I think that with Oda, at times, you have to learn to distinguish between the situation where the character is truly "himself" and so can be scaled properly and the situation where his/her portrayal seems very different from what we previously knew/saw because plot takes precedence.
 
#7
1. Oda is intentionally very vague when it comes to power scaling. It works to keep the readers guessing but Oda loves to take liberties because of it, creating a plethora of inconsistent scenes and lots of PIS. It's gotten to the point where even REAL portrayal is vague and completely dependent on what Oda wants to do at the moment. You cant trust anything nowadays.

2. His reliance on gags to sustain a character instead of actual development.

3. His love of constantly shoving minor characters with little importance at the forefront and giving them a ton of screentime instead of more important characters. Dressrosa took those to 11.
you summed it up perfectly also somethings just doesn't make sense or feel bullshitish like the whole sabo amnesia and whitebeard response to oden's death
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
#10
I think that with Oda, at times, you have to learn to distinguish between the situation where the character is truly "himself" and so can be scaled properly and the situation where his/her portrayal seems very different from what we previously knew/saw because plot takes precedence.
Plenty of people are already aware of this.

I'm talking situations like Oda having Carrot go over on Luffy and Zoro, telling the reader thay she's strong. In WCI, not only was she irrelevant, even more so in Wano, she was no stronger than Chopper and couldn't stop Burlee.

you summed it up perfectly also somethings just doesn't make sense or feel bullshitish like the whole sabo amnesia and whitebeard response to oden's death
WB's response makes sense
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ng-whitebeard-999-apologists.9411/post-909722

Sabo's amnesia however, was complete bullshit lol. You telling me Ace went 3 years without hearing about the infamous Revo #2 Sabo when even fodder pirates knew of him?
 
#11
I find it amazing!!
I have some things that annoying me like flashbacks but when I reread the arc I enjoy them as well.
I don't think there are many works of a human that another human can't find a mistake.
For me it's a masterpiece
It's because you got used to it. Lol. When you read a story in which logic doesn't work and nothing makes sense, then you start to lose brain cells, but when you re-read the story it all makes sense since you already lost enough brain cells to make sense out of it.
 
#15
- His growing inability to not have an arc without insufferable crying royals to rescue.
- Post TS antagonists. We may never see a new villain on par with Croc or the others again because Oda keeps dropping the ball with them.
- PIS. Part of the reason antagonists are so laughable is because Oda drops their IQ levels down to single digits whenever the heroes are in danger, and as a result, the tension (such as it is in OP) is now long gone.
- The characters. There are a few good ones here and there, but for every Corazon, we get a dozen Rebeccas, dwarfs, etc to balance it out. And a lot of the more promising chars like the Supernovas have been wasted.
- The SHs. Bar occasionally Brook, they are hollow shells of what they used to be, and it doesn’t help Oda wastes so much screentime on characters nobody cares about instead of them.
- The fights...or rather the lack of them. Can’t waste time on those when we have more urgent matters like Oden dancing in the streets, handing Meme her next L, or seeing the exciting process of getting from Point A to Point B.
- Maybe it’s just me, but a lot the stories in the New World just aren’t as good as some of the ones we got Pre TS. Off the top of my head, a few examples are the Witching Hour Boy and the “tragedy” of Eiichiro Oden. I never cared about the Witching plot, and unless I’m forgetting something, it went nowhere other than to show what Kyoshiro was doing in his spare time. As for the Oden flashback and how he was “deceived” by Orochi, there are no words for it, the whole thing was stupid from start to finish.
- The chosen one bullshit. Luffy had already massively regressed since the timeskip, but the fact he’s likely the chosen one makes it even worse.
- The lack of answers. Not just long standing ones about the Devil Fruits and Ancient Kingdom, but even in this arc, Oda cut away from Reverie and endlessly teases us with major events that happened in it.
 
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Formerly Seth

#17
What flaws do you see in Oda as a writer? What are the elements of his writing that you are not fond of/ dislike? Do you have any particular critique?
Gags.
Giving too much focus to irrelevant characters or even fucking fodders leaving most important characters without future development.
Inconsistency.
Lack of knowledge about how to build a proper battle system.
Creating plot holes on another plot holes without answering them.
Abusing the same schemes. Alabasta, Dressrosa ( Alabasta v2 ), Wano ( alabasta v3 ). What I mean by this? Country, people, princess
Luffy comes luffy helps.


For me Oda is one of the best world builders and decent story teller but he lacks in a lot of aspects.
Writing post TS became pretty plain and simple.
 
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