Chapter Discussion Officially confirmed: Pirate King = Grand Tourist King

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

It'll mean the level of your comprehension to this conversation suggest it won't be fruitful one

I'm saying this physique nonsense is dumb. Garp has arguably the best physique in the series and is still only equal to Roger. Why should I put Oden ABOVE Roger when he hasn't shown anything that suggests he's even above the wings?

 

[Philosoraptor]

I'm saying this physique nonsense is dumb. Garp has arguably the best physique in the series and is still only equal to Roger. Why should I put Oden ABOVE Roger when he hasn't shown anything that suggests he's even above the wings?

It's dumb to you because you still try to carry a nonexistent paradigm that no longer follows the narrative as intended. Meaning you constantly try to reinterpret the manga to still fit how you perceive the power level of said characters. So even when a character has an actual superior feat you constantly need to reimagine the feat to look inferior in order for your position to stay coherent.

Garp hasn't shown any physique above Roger other training his fist to hit way harder then Roger can muster up. Your incoherent logic assume that since Roger can equal Garp in combat that this magically follows that Roger is capable of launching Galaxy Impact with his fist.

You have pretenses in your paradigm you need to fix before you even assume you think you have a understanding of characters power level

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

It's dumb to you because you still try to carry a nonexistent paradigm that no longer follows the narrative as intended. Meaning you constantly try to reinterpret the manga to still fit how you perceive the power level of said characters. So even when a character has an actual superior feat you constantly need to reimagine the feat to look inferior in order for your position to stay coherent.

Garp hasn't shown any physique above Roger other training his fist to hit way harder then Roger can muster up. Your incoherent logic assume that since Roger can equal Garp in combat that this magically follows that Roger is capable of launching Galaxy Impact with his fist.

You have pretenses in your paradigm you need to fix before you even assume you think you have a understanding of characters power level

Dude I really do not care
Bottom line is that Oda has Whitebeard > Oden
Roger is equal to Whitebeard
Therefore Roger > Oden
I never got why people tried to make Oden way stronger than he actually is. It doesn't hurt his character if he's below Roger or Rayleigh for example

 

[Philosoraptor]

Dude I really do not care
Bottom line is that Oda has Whitebeard > Oden
Roger is equal to Whitebeard
Therefore Roger > Oden
I never got why people tried to make Oden way stronger than he actually is. It doesn't hurt his character if he's below Roger or Rayleigh for example

"Dude I don't care"

*Then proceeds to share outdated assertions*

 

[park_min young]

Big Mom and Kaido being confirmed on par with Primebeard…something that has been narratively sensible since pre timeskip, completely broke his brain.

 

[nik87]

"Dude I don't care"

*Then proceeds to share outdated assertions*

You are trying to explain things to a bot.
It doesnt understand, it's that simple.

 

[Djordje]

A many times weaker Oden without AdCoC ate his second strongest attack like it was a strong shot of coffee

Prime Oden ~ Roger is not a crazy take anymore after god valley given Roger was a normal human with no haki lvl way superior than any of the legendary six. And as @Philosoraptor said a weaker physical body

That was literally last day of his 5 year journey with WB ,Oden he already was in prime there because after that he had 1 year journey around the world with Roger and 5 years dancing in Wano where he didnt face anyone noteworthy to push himself even further.
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If he matches them in combat then what do you think?

Attack power = Physical strength + haki strength

If Roger is not physical strength monster like WB yet his attacks can cancel each other in clash and sky split that means Roger has stronger haki which allows him to compensate his inferiority in physical strength.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

That was literally last day of his 5 year journey with WB ,Oden he already was in prime there because after that he had 1 year journey around the world with Roger and 5 years dancing in Wano where he didnt face anyone noteworthy to push himself even further.
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Attack power = Physical strength + haki strength

If Roger is not physical strength monster like WB yet his attacks can cancel each other in clash and sky split that means Roger has stronger haki which allows him to compensate his inferiority in physical strength.

Eh I don't really care to argue about this anymore
I realized that this powerscaling shit is starting to make me bitter and angry and I hate that. So I'm just backing outta this thread for now

 

[Djordje]

Eh I don't really care to argue about this anymore
I realized that this powerscaling shit is starting to make me bitter and angry and I hate that. So I'm just backing outta this thread for now

Nothing to argue about, 2 attacks cancelling each other in clash means they have same attack power.

So either Roger has same physical strength as those and same haki strength or he has inferior physical strength but stronger haki.

Which one is it is up to you and others do decide.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Nothing to argue about, 2 attacks cancelling each other in clash means they have same attack power.

So either Roger has same physical strength as those and same haki strength or he has inferior physical strength but stronger haki.

Which one is it is up to you and others do decide.

I mean either way you agree with me that Oden isn't even equal to, let alone above, Roger right? If so then I don't care about the smaller details tbh. Although I do believe Roger has stronger Haki but inferior physical strength

 

[Djordje]

I mean either way you agree with me that Oden isn't even equal to, let alone above, Roger right? If so then I don't care about the smaller details tbh. Although I do believe Roger has stronger Haki but inferior physical strength

First only idiots can claim Oden is above Roger and its not even idea that I find worthy dicussing at all. Oden ceilling is Rayleigh / Gaban and they had no trouble considering themselves at second place in Roger pirates ( Gaban saying he was second in Elbaf ). Roger is above that and so far only Garp and Whitebeard matched him.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Even outside WG more people are coming to realize PK level was never a thing lol.

 

[Ven437]

That was literally last day of his 5 year journey with WB ,Oden he already was in prime there because after that he had 1 year journey around the world with Roger and 5 years dancing in Wano where he didnt face anyone noteworthy to push himself even further.
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Attack power = Physical strength + haki strength

If Roger is not physical strength monster like WB yet his attacks can cancel each other in clash and sky split that means Roger has stronger haki which allows him to compensate his inferiority in physical strength.

Why do you assume Oden must be below Roger? He was a guest in their crew, an outsider. His ceiling isnt Runleigh or Gaban, in fact Oden is clear of em and has comparable if not greater hype than the two put together by a more reputable person

Even in latest chapter he is not considered a true part of the pirate crew who navigated the world

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Official trans - More proof of dodger @nik87

 

[ZenZu]

Official trans - More proof of dodger @nik87

There's no new info in this page that we didn't already know like 20 years ago.

 

[Djordje]

Why do you assume Oden must be below Roger? He was a guest in their crew, an outsider. His ceiling isnt Runleigh or Gaban, in fact Oden is clear of em and has comparable if not greater hype than the two put together by a more reputable person

Even in latest chapter he is not considered a true part of the pirate crew who navigated the world

I dont asume anything just scaling based on manga evidence.

 

[L57]

Low iq meme fan discovered what mihawk fans been saying for years .

 

[Ven437]

I dont asume anything just scaling based on manga evidence.

Manga evidence had prime Oden put on the same pedestal as Roger and WB by Kaido who saw them both at their prime/near it. He also gained AdCoC same as them as Oda mentioned in SBS (Totsuka Paradise is an AdCoC move)

Low iq meme fan discovered what mihawk fans been saying for years .

Not the Leechawk fan talking about low iq when he has THIS thread misrepresenting what a skysplit is oh the irony

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...he-first-op-character-to-split-the-sky.74956/

 

[Djordje]

Manga evidence had prime Oden put on the same pedestal as Roger and WB by Kaido who saw them both at their prime/near it. He also gained AdCoC same as them as Oda mentioned in SBS (Totsuka Paradise is an AdCoC move)



Not the Leechawk fan talking about low iq when he has THIS thread misrepresenting what a skysplit is oh the irony

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...he-first-op-character-to-split-the-sky.74956/

I read manga as how its written not how fandoms want it to mean . Kaido said those 5 are trully capable of fighting him which he later said too to G4 Luffy . He never said those 5 are equal in power just like commone sense tells us G4 isnt equal to likes of Prime WB / Xebec and so. Anyone with a brain knows this.

 

[L57]

Manga evidence had prime Oden put on the same pedestal as Roger and WB by Kaido who saw them both at their prime/near it. He also gained AdCoC same as them as Oda mentioned in SBS (Totsuka Paradise is an AdCoC move)



Not the Leechawk fan talking about low iq when he has THIS thread misrepresenting what a skysplit is oh the irony

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...he-first-op-character-to-split-the-sky.74956/

If u had a brain you would have agreed with what we said years back not now