General & Others Officially confirmed: Zoro is the vice captain

Are all these characters the 2nd strongest and vice captains of their respective crew/group?

  • Yes, it's obvious they are

    Votes: 169 83.3%
  • No, it's just a giant gargantuan enormous coincidence

    Votes: 34 16.7%

  • Total voters
    203

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
yes, you have poor reading comprehension. in context, that's what that means. it's not "first mates", it's "2nd strongest"
Not at all, you still have no clue what #2s mean...
It has nothing to do with strength, strength is only the reason why Bepo pulled ahead of Shachi and Penguin when they are equally good candidates for a #2 but since everything else is comparable, Bepo pulled through because his strength is above them.
However, strength would never be mentioned if other things werent comparable.
 
In 99% of cases (bar some quite rare exceptions), the N2 aka second strongest = the first mate* = the right-hand man

*which is a rank meaning the person with highest authority after the captain/leader, not literally the first to join an organization lmao

we're told this a few times lol
it's painfully obvious
Also why are Sanji fans so salty about that fact
Because they are irredeemable flat earthers
 
The recent dub of Egghead has Lucci specifically refer to Zoro as an Emperor's first mate during their duel. The live action series blatantly states it as his role within the crew.

At this point it doesn't matter what Oda even says since in actions he constantly instigating the debate through in series parallels with other right hands, dialogue or expansive materials. Bartholomeo is the biggest SH stan and says Zoro is Vice Captain.

This tells me Morgan's actively writes Zoro as Luffy's right hand man and co conspirator in all thats happened.
 
The recent dub of Egghead has Lucci specifically refer to Zoro as an Emperor's first mate during their duel. The live action series blatantly states it as his role within the crew.

At this point it doesn't matter what Oda even says since in actions he constantly instigating the debate through in series parallels with other right hands, dialogue or expansive materials. Bartholomeo is the biggest SH stan and says Zoro is Vice Captain.

This tells me Morgan's actively writes Zoro as Luffy's right hand man and co conspirator in all thats happened.
It's not only the dub
And the live action series (approved by Oda, btw)
It's Oda's manga itself
That CONSISTENTLY affirms and reaffirms this




 
Not at all, you still have no clue what #2s mean...
It has nothing to do with strength, strength is only the reason why Bepo pulled ahead of Shachi and Penguin when they are equally good candidates for a #2 but since everything else is comparable, Bepo pulled through because his strength is above them.
However, strength would never be mentioned if other things werent comparable.
Shachi or penguin would be no 2 if the spread was about organization skills or who's the vice captain of the org. But it's about strength so Bepo is there.
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It's not only the dub
And the live action series (approved by Oda, btw)
It's Oda's manga itself
That CONSISTENTLY affirms and reaffirms this




Urouge saying first mate isn't in the Japanese. The point of Barto saying this is to show he's a stupid fanboy who is mistaken. That's why it says (by me), because he's the only one who thinks Zoro is vice captain.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Shachi or penguin would be no 2 if the spread was about organization skills or who's the vice captain of the org. But it's about strength so Bepo is there.
>I selected the #2s as I saw fit

This is his response while the fan asks if Bepo is stronger...
If it was about strength, he would just confirm what the fan asks.

>Usually, Shachi and Penguin are more dependable
>they are no match for Sulong Bepo in combat
>They acknowledge that

It means Bepo is ultimately more dependable, because he is significantly stronger.
It means Bepo made it into the #2s spread because he is more dependable.

Just like Shiryu is more dependable than Kuzan because he can critically injure Garp while Kuzan cant.
The captains are usually the most dependable members of their crews but they are automatically disqualified from this spread because they are disqualified as #2s and this is not because of strength.

Oda wanted a spread of biggest names of those organizations that are not the captains and while strength is partically the reason why they are the 2nd biggest names, the spread is not about 2nd strongest people of those organizations.
For example, when you talk about Cross Guild, Buggy is the biggest name there, despite not being the strongest.
 
>I selected the #2s as I saw fit

This is his response while the fan asks if Bepo is stronger...
If it was about strength, he would just confirm what the fan asks.

>Usually, Shachi and Penguin are more dependable
>they are no match for Sulong Bepo in combat
>They acknowledge that

It means Bepo is ultimately more dependable, because he is significantly stronger.
It means Bepo made it into the #2s spread because he is more dependable.

Just like Shiryu is more dependable than Kuzan because he can critically injure Garp while Kuzan cant.
The captains are usually the most dependable members of their crews but they are automatically disqualified from this spread because they are disqualified as #2s and this is not because of strength.

Oda wanted a spread of biggest names of those organizations that are not the captains and while strength is partically the reason why they are the 2nd biggest names, the spread is not about 2nd strongest people of those organizations.
For example, when you talk about Cross Guild, Buggy is the biggest name there, despite not being the strongest.
Nik has actually a point
Oda only exclusively talked about Bepo about strength

He didnt qualify any criteria for any of the others so its at minimum ambigious even in japanese

 
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