General & Others OG M3 will stay
- Thread starter Kishido
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I don’t think it’s a coincidence if every powerful crew has a captain that is way above everyone else + 3-4 powerful commanders that stand out from the rest of the crew in terms of strength.
- Doflamingo had Vergo, Pica, Trébol and Diamante
- BM has Katakuri, Smoothie, Cracker and Snack
- Kaido has King, Queen and Jack
- Shanks has Ben Beckman, Lucky Roo and Yasopp
- WB had Marco, Jozu, Vista and Ace
- Roger had Oden, Rayleigh and Gaban
Oda did that for a reason. Luffy is about to become a Yonko (literally or figuratively) so it’s only logical that he’ll get his own M3/M4 (Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe and maybe Usopp) with him being on a whole different level.
- Doflamingo had Vergo, Pica, Trébol and Diamante
- BM has Katakuri, Smoothie, Cracker and Snack
- Kaido has King, Queen and Jack
- Shanks has Ben Beckman, Lucky Roo and Yasopp
- WB had Marco, Jozu, Vista and Ace
- Roger had Oden, Rayleigh and Gaban
Oda did that for a reason. Luffy is about to become a Yonko (literally or figuratively) so it’s only logical that he’ll get his own M3/M4 (Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe and maybe Usopp) with him being on a whole different level.
How can Luffy be a part of M3 when he can one-shot everyone in it? 
I think Oda has made it abundantly clear that Zoro, Sanji, and Jinbe are closer to each other than they are to Luffy. Luffy = Zoro stopped being true pre-skip, WCI created an insurmountable gap between Luffy, the m3, and his strongest supernova rivals(Kidd and Law).
None of them will be able to catch up, Luffy's only rivals in power are the top tiers now.
None of them will be able to catch up, Luffy's only rivals in power are the top tiers now.
I’m talking about the future. In Pirate King Luffy’s crew, all 3 will be top tiers, even Sanji most likely, and Jinbe won’t be.
Currently I think neither Sanji nor Zoro have had much of a chance to show their true capabilities. Their fanbases have a lot of material with which to troll the other, but Oda definitely has been holding out in showcasing what they can do.
Overall I agree with you based on all their feats today, but it’s going to change very quickly when we reach the arc’s climax.
Currently I think neither Sanji nor Zoro have had much of a chance to show their true capabilities. Their fanbases have a lot of material with which to troll the other, but Oda definitely has been holding out in showcasing what they can do.
Overall I agree with you based on all their feats today, but it’s going to change very quickly when we reach the arc’s climax.
And i was referring to your statement of him being vet level. The top vet guys of BM were pissing their pants and could not believe their eyes when Jinbe punched BM off the ship, it´s not something they can replicate.
Jinbe is commander level, where exactly remains to be seen, meaning whether his offense can keep up with his defense, but at worst he is Y3C.
What happens in the future? We will see. But the term monster trio only makes sense if the three guys are vastly superior to the rest of the crew, meaning Sanji will need to stay closer to Luffy than he is to Jinbe, and at the least that is rather unlikely.
If Jinbe gets one major powerup in the remaining story, that puts him already in Y1C territory, Sanji would at least be mid top tier to have the same gap between him and Jinbe as between him and Luffy at the end.
Either way the term does not make much sense anymore.
Jinbe is commander level, where exactly remains to be seen, meaning whether his offense can keep up with his defense, but at worst he is Y3C.
What happens in the future? We will see. But the term monster trio only makes sense if the three guys are vastly superior to the rest of the crew, meaning Sanji will need to stay closer to Luffy than he is to Jinbe, and at the least that is rather unlikely.
If Jinbe gets one major powerup in the remaining story, that puts him already in Y1C territory, Sanji would at least be mid top tier to have the same gap between him and Jinbe as between him and Luffy at the end.
Either way the term does not make much sense anymore.
Zoro and sanji being stronger doesn't stop the 3 of them from being luffys commander equivalents
Especially if this happens
Tho i dont think any of them gonna be solo imo
When it comes to it staying that way idk
Especially because the hypothetical of jinbei not being able to grow as much or fast as the others
Especially if this happens
Tho i dont think any of them gonna be solo imo
When it comes to it staying that way idk
Especially because the hypothetical of jinbei not being able to grow as much or fast as the others
It's gonna end up being Luffy>Zoro>Sanji>Jinbei>>the rest.
Barring anyone else joining, but even then I doubt they'll push Jinbei off his spot or be that close to him.
Jinbei doesn't compare to Franky or Robin when they joined. It's much, much later with the series, he's already tangled with top tiers and came out looking pretty damn good and he's always been a much bigger deal fighting-wise.
Barring anyone else joining, but even then I doubt they'll push Jinbei off his spot or be that close to him.
Jinbei doesn't compare to Franky or Robin when they joined. It's much, much later with the series, he's already tangled with top tiers and came out looking pretty damn good and he's always been a much bigger deal fighting-wise.
Zoro and sanji being stronger doesn't stop the 3 of them from being luffys commander equivalents
Especially if this happens
Tho i dont think any of them gonna be solo imo
When it comes to it staying that way idk
Especially because the hypothetical of jinbei not being able to grow as much or fast as the others
Especially if this happens
Tho i dont think any of them gonna be solo imo
When it comes to it staying that way idk
Especially because the hypothetical of jinbei not being able to grow as much or fast as the others
Kaido isn't your ordinary Lucci or Doflamingo.
Heck I'm even skeptical about Luffy soloing Big Mom and Akainu in the future.
The problem is when Luffy went from getting trashed by Lucci to actually beating him he learned two new gears and when he was trashed by Doffy and then destroyed him he unleashed his G4 and Doffy had gotten GKed.
So unless Luffy goes G5 + awakening it's not happening imo.