So all this time, the Monster trio from Pre-timeskip to Dressrosa was Luffy, Zoro, Robin, while Zou and WCI Monster trio were Luffy, Zoro, Usopp? We had it all wrong, and it took until Sanji getting a Germa boost to finally be part of the M3.
General & Others OG M3 will stay
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You overlooked that I also wrote 'Threat', and not just the Bounty.
Yeah I can accept that lol
Personally, feat and portrayal wise I'd say its Luffy >>> Zoro >=Jinbei > Sanji
BUT plot narrative wise it will/should end up Luffy >> Zoro > Sanji >= Jinbei
Regardless I'm 100% lining up with the Luffy in a tier by himself with the others below him as his YC1-2-3 (Maybe Oda created the monster trio for this role all along so it would be the SH's equivalent of Calamities, Sweet Commanders, Admirals etc lmao)
Personally, feat and portrayal wise I'd say its Luffy >>> Zoro >=Jinbei > Sanji
BUT plot narrative wise it will/should end up Luffy >> Zoro > Sanji >= Jinbei
Regardless I'm 100% lining up with the Luffy in a tier by himself with the others below him as his YC1-2-3 (Maybe Oda created the monster trio for this role all along so it would be the SH's equivalent of Calamities, Sweet Commanders, Admirals etc lmao)
I dont know about the M3 but the SH duo definitely exist and will stay as such till EoS. This is the team up that matters. The long awaited team up (Not sure if it is the correct translation). Even Oda couldn't wait to draw this duo ready to fight together.
might be wrong about this.
Anyway on a serious note I have always viewed it as Luffy with Zoro at the top followed by Sanji and Jimbei then the rest.
This is sorely based on the way Oda has gone out his way to highlights duo throught the manga and in every generation:
Oda has actually never developed an opponent/rival for Sanji throughout the manga like how Luffy and Zoro's rivals/opponents have been developed throught the maga. Sanji neither has a marine nor pirate rival. Only Luffy and Zoro do.
M3 would honestly make sense if Oda actually put in effort to highlight it. If he made rivals for Sanji etc. However, he has never done this throughtout the manga. Sanji's opponents always are only relevant in the arc they appear in then are gone. His rivals also only ever appear in the arc they are relevant to.
Based on manga, the only team up Oda focuses on is the duo that will be rivals for Luffy and Zoro
This is sorely based on the way Oda has gone out his way to highlights duo throught the manga and in every generation:
- Roger and Rayleigh (pirate king and dark king)
- Garp and Bogard
- Sengoku and his goat (I am joking)
- WB and Oden (Brothers, when Oden was still on the ship). WB and Marco (After Oden left)
- Shanks and Ben Beckman. (Shanks and Mihawk. You can also view this in the same vein)
- Luffy and Zoro
- Coby and Helmeppo
- Smoker and Tashigi
- Kidd and Killer (Pirate rivals)
- Lucci and Kaku (are now part of cp0)
- Crocodile and Mr
Oda has actually never developed an opponent/rival for Sanji throughout the manga like how Luffy and Zoro's rivals/opponents have been developed throught the maga. Sanji neither has a marine nor pirate rival. Only Luffy and Zoro do.
M3 would honestly make sense if Oda actually put in effort to highlight it. If he made rivals for Sanji etc. However, he has never done this throughtout the manga. Sanji's opponents always are only relevant in the arc they appear in then are gone. His rivals also only ever appear in the arc they are relevant to.
Based on manga, the only team up Oda focuses on is the duo that will be rivals for Luffy and Zoro
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True, however, all the stuff he does in the manga are for a reason.
Anyway, that post was just me joking about. However, it is evident that even in the manga Luffy's relationship with Zoro is different to that of Luffy and Sanji and Luffy and other SH.
The best point is highlighted in what happened when Luffy reunited with Zoro. Luffy was excited and went out of his way to hug Zoro.
Luffy has never done this to any other SH. The only other guy who got this treatment is Sabo who Luffy thought died.
When Luffy reunited with Usopp, Franky etc in Wano, when Luffy reunited with the Nami, Brooke etc in Zou after the separation. (In the case of Nami she went and hugged Luffy). When he reunited with Sanji in WCi after separation, he didn't give them the Zoro treatment. He was happy to see them and that was it.
So this is another point for the Luffy Zoro duo vs the rest of SH
Anyway, that post was just me joking about. However, it is evident that even in the manga Luffy's relationship with Zoro is different to that of Luffy and Sanji and Luffy and other SH.
The best point is highlighted in what happened when Luffy reunited with Zoro. Luffy was excited and went out of his way to hug Zoro.
Luffy has never done this to any other SH. The only other guy who got this treatment is Sabo who Luffy thought died.
When Luffy reunited with Usopp, Franky etc in Wano, when Luffy reunited with the Nami, Brooke etc in Zou after the separation. (In the case of Nami she went and hugged Luffy). When he reunited with Sanji in WCi after separation, he didn't give them the Zoro treatment. He was happy to see them and that was it.
So this is another point for the Luffy Zoro duo vs the rest of SH
On the other hand you have non other relationship besides the one you mentioned like Zoro and Sanji.
Never have seen Franky and Usopp being highlighted or something
And that's my point the in-between relationship of the M3 is special theme wise and I can't see Judge fitting in ant of it.
And yes Sanji has jokes in competing with Luffy
Never have seen Franky and Usopp being highlighted or something
And that's my point the in-between relationship of the M3 is special theme wise and I can't see Judge fitting in ant of it.
And yes Sanji has jokes in competing with Luffy