How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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This is so stupid. Like you are creating a situation “Mihawk drops dead without losing a sword duel” and then claiming your answer to this created situation is the correct one over mine BECAUSE WHAT?

Okay. Then lets say

You got debunked, no one ever said Zoro can be WSS with other methods without beating the previous WSS so, if mihawk dies by a non-swordsman, Shanks will be the WSS and Zoro will beat him

Take your L and stfu.
You fuckin lied with Shanks being WSS if mihawk dies without losing a sword duel. That's desperation.

mihawk can always die against a non-sword user, it's entirely possible, the marines are already trying to kill him right now. It's not a created scenario, it's a fact that can happen anytime.

Zoro novel already said Zoro can be WSS by cutting gigantic objects.

You keep lying with that immortal mihawk thing, mihawk can die anytime and then in your fanfic world, Zoro can never be WSS if mihawk dies from another cause other than losing a sword duel :milaugh:

Also Zoro will never beat Shanks, that's also retarded. Shanks is Luffy's fight, and Shanks will never be WSS because that's a pathetic title, he is already stronger than WSS mihawk.
 
You fuckin lied with Shanks being WSS if mihawk dies without losing a sword duel. That's desperation.

mihawk can always die against a non-sword user, it's entirely possible, the marines are already trying to kill him right now. It's not a created scenario, it's a fact that can happen anytime.

Zoro novel already said Zoro can be WSS by cutting gigantic objects.

You keep lying with that immortal mihawk thing, mihawk can die anytime and then in your fanfic world, Zoro can never be WSS if mihawk dies from another cause other than losing a sword duel :milaugh:

Buggy is now an equal of big mom, for being a great pirate
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Its just one of those things we can't really, completely argue because Shanks never was specified to have lost to Mihawk, nor even shown playing that game in the first place
Okay so will Zoro be stronger than Shanks when he beats Mihawk?

Since Mihawk and Shanks seems so unclear when Zoro is clearly above Mihawk, will he be clearly above Shanks? No right? You’ll say, what if Shanks slightly stronger than Mihawk all along.

Okay then what if after beating Mihawk, Zoro gets into a battle with 1000,000 swordsmen nonstop for 20 days and at the end, zoro says “Wow, i got even more powerful”, Will Zoro be Above Shanks then? No right? Because maybe Shanks was WAY above Mihawk all along

And then what if AFTER THAT Zoro eats Kaido’s DF and trains for two more years and obtains CoC and his curse sword activates and creates a susanoo. Will Zoro finally be above Shanks? No right? Because maybe Shanks could fodderise Mihawk all along

See im not saying you yourself would make these arguments, im saying this is the type of argumemt that CAN BE MADE by people when ambiguity is created. If Mihawk is not definitively the strongest libing swordsman on the entire planet, it immeditely means there cannot be any definitive statement made that Zoro will ever actually accomplish his dream. Thats just it. It can no longer happen. He will be the only Strawhat who will not be able to accomplish their dreams simply because POWER SCALING
 
Just give it up. It's pointless to argue with them.
Shusui made Zoro's attack much stronger. Zoro said that it has more weight and with this weight he could...and the next panel is him redirecting Oars punch. So with the extra weight he can create more force. People stil say Swords are not PU's...
And now with Enma, Zoro attacked with all 3 swords, but says he needs to unleash Enma more. Then you have BM and Kaidou commenting on the sword...
But swordbois stil say swords are not PU's...
How more obvious has Oda to be so that those people finaly get it?
Shusui is the same grade as Enma and a black blade making it very hard to determine which is the better blade but Shusui was undoubtedly above Yubashiri
 
Oda is a writer who constantly writes about how the perception of the masses and how rumors are unreliable, but you are still using rumor and hearsay as the basis by which you form your opinion? These people that you are referencing probably think Kaido defeated Oden fairly, when we as the reader know the truth, that Oden was 1 second away from killing Kaido and Kaido had to fight like a chicken to win.
Rumors mAy be unreliable but you forget titles are based off Reputations and Rumors,Both Wb and Mihawk never defeated their closest rivals nor did they beat everyone under their respective titles yet are believed to be strongest based off same titles.
You again are proposing that the world thinks Kaido is the strongest because he defeated Oden which is just your very own assumption,so I'm free to against that.
Neither Akainu nor Sengoku knew much about Oden (calling him just Wb 2nd division commander) so I don't see how Kaido could have gotten the rumored title by seemingly beating a guy the world doesn't know that much.

In my eyes the guy with World strongest hype from multiple sources is superior to those with nothing of the sort,whether it ends up being being true or not,we'll see.
Kizaru and Aokiji are equal to Akainu in strength. Akainu and Kizaru also confirmed that Kizaru by himself could stop Big Mom and Kaido from meeting.
Neither are confirmed Akainu's equals right now,he beat Aokiji 1 year ago and spared his life back then(which already indicated they weren't equals) and now is at the head of the marines with all his limbs whereas Aokiji lost a leg and replaced it with an ice one,something that can be destroyed or be a weak point in a fight.

I don't mind ending being wrong but I think there is 0% chance either Aokiji or Kizaru end up being stronger than Kaido,Akainu has his chances even though extremely slim.
Oda does not hype Kaido as the strongest. Oda hyped Whitebeard and Mihawk as the strongest, he gave them real titles and not hearsay and conjecture rumors. He also never gave evidence in the face of believing they were the strongest like he does with Kaido left and right. It’s people who still haven’t learned that the value of rumor in One Piece is approximately 0 who still think Kaido has a chance at being the strongest character
Let me ask you this,how did Mihawk and Wb end up with the World strongest titles in their respective categories? Did they beat everyone ? Who crowns an individual the strongest ? How come Wb was no more the strongest at Marineford?
Short answer ;it is based on either rumors,hearsay or World Government propaganda.
Also we have seen 2 cases of official titles be false before.

1)Gorosei being highest political authority in the world

2)Fake strawhat Luffy being introduced to us as the real Luffy in Sabaody.

Kaido is believed to be the strongest by people,that's already more going for him than I can say for either Aokiji, Kizaru or even Akainu who still has nothing on World strongest hype atm.
You don't believe it,you are free to but I don't see why you would be making a case for other people who have not even being brought up one single time by anyone for World strongest man,nor have they been directly put above the "supposed" current World strongest.
He hasn’t done this for Kaido either, all he’s done is present Kaido as a gag with a bullshit title that only babies would believe anyway. Zoro outright mocked Kaido’s fake-title, and has spent 3 chapters embarrassing him on panel.
Sure it is bullshit title that only babies believe in because you don't like him,don't pretend like you wouldn't have liked Akainu to get such 1vs1 hype.
Zoro said supposed World strongest true, but that is not mocking but just chanelling through his mouth what he heard other people say.
Zoro is also a proud ccharacter,he would do the same for Akainu or any other Admiral,that's just the way he is.
Where did I say or even remotely imply anything like this lmfao? I’m sure after reading the rest of my post here, you’ll understand how ridiculous this comment looks.
You said Oda never bothered to outright say Kaido is the strongest, I then asked you how will Akainu and the 4 others end up being stronger confirmed? Oda never bothered to state they are above Kaido either,feats are subjected to interpretation so we will end up never knowing for sure unless Luffy or Zoro say something.

Atleast Kaido has hearsay supporting him being above the others,the others got nothing to support what you believe in.
But you also haven’t learned about the difference between perception and reality even though Oda has been writing about it for 1,000 chapters, so I’m not sure.
What is perceived by people has been constantly hinted to be true this arc though.
We got a chapter called Island of the strongest,that's all I need to know.

Its also funny you talk about the difference between perception and reality then mention Akainu,Aokiji, Kizaru being stronger despite nothing hinting at that in the manga lee- kun.
Wait until they Atleast do something or have proper hype that directly places them above Kaido.
 
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