Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?

  • They get completely overwhelmed and it goes downhill from there

    Votes: 121 35.8%

  • They get overwhelmed at first but recover to continue fighting

    Votes: 95 28.1%

  • Hybrid Kaido fights on par with them

    Votes: 3 0.9%

  • Hybrid Kaido fails and gets run over

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Zoro solos

    Votes: 118 34.9%
  • Total voters
    338
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LANJI CUCKSMOKE

LANJI CUCKSMOKE

SIMPJI
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rerere said:
Gotta have squared balls to support a tragic character like Killer, it's easy to stand with Luffy, Zoro, Sanji...
But look where we are, on the rooftop dancing with 2 Emperors
:finally:
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aye I wont hate
not anymore at least.
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GreenEggsAHam said:
Sanji took a bigger W than zoro , getting black maria period blood
:finally::finally::finally::finally:
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Akai

Akai

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#11,985
Jo_Ndule said:
Fanboys back then
"There won't be time travel"
"Magical swords doesn't exist"
"There won't be a god tier /kaguya level character "

Now
" Enma doesn't store haki"

Wait until Oda keeps Mentioning enma and Oden whenever zoro uses enma...

You guys think it's absurd that a sword which somehow can absorb haki, can't store someones haki?
When even swords can eat dfs Lol !

You got a sword eating a df but people think Enma storing haki is absurd especially after these past 2 chapters
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yorosenpai

yorosenpai

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Zoro : Wait! Wait ! Don't eat ...
Zoro : My captain!!
Zoro : Santoryu!

Kaido : hm ??
Kaido : This form of haki!!


Zoro : Kujou Ô Tatsumaki!!
Kaido : Uoooo!

Killer : (sorry the picture is cut)

Big Mom : That kid .. He managed to cut Kaido

Kaido : Oh .. i see it's working! That's Oden katana ?
Kaido : To think you challenged me with Tatsumaki, Uerororo"


We talk with @ivaannom so before claiming lots of things, we agree that 正体 means form or identity.

So Kaido is seeing here that Zoro is using the same haki of Oden "Ryou", exactly like when the scabbards used Ryou on him. For Kaido who doesn't know anything about Ryou, he refers Ryou to Oden's haki. That's when Scabbard and Zoro used on him, he calls/sees that at Oden's haki. Also why he didn't understand how Luffy hurt him with Red Roc at first.
No there is no haki of Oden here.

Correction to the slightly off mis translation from the previous post to this portion.
"Zoro : That's actually not a simple tornado!"
Zoro actually states. "That's (that referring to kaido) just a disaster!"
It is easy to mistranslate this as it uses ただ which directly translates to simple or just.

As for the Oden's Haki, Kaido saying Odens Haki does not exactly mean he has the same Haki, but more the same level of haki, as Zoro is starting to adapt to the sword that only Oden was able to wield.

Well guys, there you have Zoro is a monster in term of hacky, a clear genius one in 1milion or more able to understand Enma, that in 20 year or more none in Wano was able to use it.

Zoro is like Luffy (Joy Boy).

A prodigy that ll safe Wano
 
Cinera

Cinera

𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
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Bil02 said:
What if Who's who is really a cp0 member?
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It seemed obvious to me. It also explains him knowing Jimbe.

Bil02 said:
Now I'm going to make a wild claim,is Who's who possibly Greenbull?
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Not plausible, Ryokugyu went with Issho to the Reverie and should be on his way back.

Buusatan94 said:
Nor that Enma isn't without his own unique ability as a sword when you master it.
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It may allow you to release more haki in your attacks than you can otherwise. There is zero indication of any other ability.


Gol D. Roger said:
Zoro is no top tier neither is Luffy. With their MC plot armor at work, neither Zoro nor Luffy would need additional back up to beat a top tier in a main arc battle. Luffy and Zoro will only be low top tiers when they get their own one on one with a solid top tier. No top tier can handle two top tiers at once. Do you think Kaido or any other top tier can treat current Garp and Rayleigh the way he's treating Luffy and Zoro?
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  • Kaido has dealt zero damage to Zoro in Dragon form.
  • Zoro has neutralised Dragon Kaido's entire offensive arsenal.
  • Zoro can readily harm Dragon!Kaido.
    • Tatsumaki is a mid tier attack, and it cut Kaido up.

I think Santoryu Zoro beats Dragon!Kaido. I don't even understand how Dragon!Kaido is supposed to win. Literally his entire offensive arsenal is hard countered.

Zoro has barely started using his stronger attacks with Enma, and he can already readily harm Kaido. He had much stronger attacks than Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki.

At any rate, Zoro has only looked so impressive because he's been working overtime to protect Luffy. He's only attacked of his own volition once (the initial Rengoku Oni Giri). The other two were counterattacks he made while protecting Luffy.

If Zoro didn't have to rescue Luffy six times, he would have been much more impressive.


Admiral Lee Hung said:
Katakuri Mogura’s with ease. Zolo couldn’t even evade Kamazou
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Bad bait.
  • Kamazou only landed an attack because of Gyukimaru's sneak attack
  • Katakuri never landed Mogura on Base Luffy even Pre FS without distractions
    • Katakuri isn't stabbing Zoro without Flampe
  • Zoro can block and easily cut through Mogura with hardening

The Goatakuri still has no answer to Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki.


Fujishiro said:
I don’t think he is, Zoros and Luffys as well as others combined we’re dealing with Dragon Kaido. Zoro alone is not superior to that, I’m sorry.

You’re gonna get yourself burned mate.
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  • Kaido is fighting alongside Mama
  • Zoro has mainly been protecting Luffy
    • He rescued Luffy six times
    • He counterattacked Kaido three times
      • One was the original ineffective Rengoku Onigiri
      • Two were counterattacks to rescue Luffy
  • Zoro has repeatedly countered Dragon!Kaido's entire arsenal
    • It's not my claim that Zoro can beat the four other SN, it's just that Zoro is nigh immune to Dragon!Kaido's offense while they are not.
    • How does Dragon!Kaido hurt Zoro?
  • Kidd and Killer have been nigh irrelevant
  • Law's only contributions were rescuing Luffy
  • Only Luffy and Zoro have done noticeable damage to Kaido. He called the other attacks "tricks" and "vexing". They were annoyances.

Like 90% of what Zoro has done this fight is protect Luffy. Even his single successful attack was a counterattack to rescue Luffy.


Fujishiro said:
Surprised at Zoro cutting him doesn’t equate significant damage you know.

Just like she was surprised Luffy hurt him with red roc.
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  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki cut Kaido up with blood spurting from his body.
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up blood.
    • Kaido coughed up much more blood from Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki than after Luffy hit him with his Kong Gatling.
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    Given Mama, Kaido and Killer's reactions, I would say it was significant damage. Kaido did one last counterattack and then went into Hybrid.


    Fujishiro said:
    @Cinera I think you shouldn’t deal with extremes, ie an attack is either nullified or dealing big damage, or instead of an attack being a bit stronger, it being much stronger. I don’t know why you can’t find a middle ground lmao.
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    I don't really understand what you're referring to TBH. Examples would be greatly appreciated.
 
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