Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[Kuruka]

You literally have zero evidence to back your shit up. He literally comments on Zoro's Haki and its literally proven in the spoiler chat.

What the fuck are you barking about? Zoro trashes Oden, his weak ass couldn't even make Enma permanently black.

Oh yea kaido sensing oden in enma is zero evidence .
Haki is literally the only thing it could be.

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Like i told you before he sensed his will and he sensed Zoros haki which is similar to oden. Dead men dont posses haki, everything other than this is literally headcanon( which is ironic because you are claiming others are headcanoning because they believe this)

If you believe otherwise then prove it. Give us 1 panel or 1 line or anything in the manga that proves that dead people can emit haki, or that their possessions can contain haki.

If your answer is enma then you are headcanoning because Enma is a sword like every other sword and it doesnt contain a dead mans haki. If what you are saying then other item in the series should contain haki. But they dont, because dead men dont emit haki.

Haki dont get passed but peoples will does, The will of men get passed from items and words and actions that you can find plenty of proof in one piece to back up.

What is will? Specify it in detail please and. How can kaido sense will?
Dead men can’t use haki? Show me where that’s ever been confirmed in the manga?
Also when has a dead man ever even had the chance to confirm this headcannon in the first place.

 

[Guymieux]

How about you bring me something other than head cannon please.
When does Oda EVER specify that souls live within swords?
If so show me when and how odens soul entered into enma...
Also show me when kaido ever showed the ability to sense souls?
Kaido is not soul king..
you can’t disprove my point so you’ve resorted to making stuff up

I’m literally talking about things from the manga

 

[wereng99]

People needs to stop this Enma nonsense.
Does it contain Oden's haki? Of course not. Does it contain Oden's aura or will? Of course.
Was it a powerup? Well, not a powerup per say but it made and is still making Zoro achieve new heights in his Haki control so overall it made him a better swordsman than when he first get it but at least for me it is the equivalent of Luffy learning Ryou (he always knew but he mastered it and has overall better control than before) but as for his internal destruction that was indeed a powerup.
In the end, Zoro proved us wrong (mostly neutrals, luffy fans and sanji fans) and there is nothing wrong with it. Is it a reach to pretend Zoro was stronger than Luffy since the timeskip? Yes and we all know that. Is it a reach to pretend there never was some rivalry between Zoro and Sanji? Also yes but we always knew who was stronger.
I am still doubting the ZKK theory but the way Oda has been presenting stuff it may as well happen and I will gladly take my L's if it does happen.
Just really tired of the same stuff in every thread people attacking and diminishing Zoro's feat and also people bringing up Sanji when sometimes he is not even in the chapter. Sanji's time to shine will come and we all know it. I believe we could make this a overall better place if we learned to respect each other opinions when the discussion just seems pointless.

look this guy is pretty reasonable, he's one of guy with a working brain, unlike certain people on this forum..

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

look this guy is pretty reasonable, he's one of guy with a working brain, unlike certain people on this forum..

Brain in this forum ?

 

[BangOO🍅]

 

[Guymieux]

Oh yea kaido sensing oden in enma is zero evidence .
Haki is literally the only thing it could be.

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What is will? Specify it in detail please and. How can kaido sense will?
Dead men can’t use haki? Show me where that’s ever been confirmed in the manga?
Also when has a dead man ever even had the chance to confirm this headcannon in the first place.

It literally says in the manga that dead samurais soul are in the sword and the swordman that uses it after inherits their will. It also says that haki is an ability that all living beings possess. Once again do you know how to read?

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

Oh yea kaido sensing oden in enma is zero evidence .
Haki is literally the only thing it could be.

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What is will? Specify it in detail please and. How can kaido sense will?
Dead men can’t use haki? Show me where that’s ever been confirmed in the manga?
Also when has a dead man ever even had the chance to confirm this headcannon in the first place.

You dont know whats will? I think you need to reread one piece , and do some research about inherited will.
I dont have to confirm that something doesnt exist its not how it works. You claim something exists its on you to prove it exists if you cant provide proof then its just head canon.
Dead men dont have haki there is no proof of it any the manga just assuming they do without any proof or evidence is delusional.
Inherited will* is what possess items and its what gets moved from a dead person to the next generation. Zoro and Enma inherited odens will to cut down Kaido and thats why kaido senses oden in Enma.
I gave you another proof because Kaido sensed Oden in the scabbards attack i dont remember which panel but i am sure someone could post it.
How come kaido sensed oden in their attack when oden never used any of their swords??? Its not because they possess his haki its because they possess his will. Along side a haki that is similar to his(ryou).

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Oh yea kaido sensing oden in enma is zero evidence .
Haki is literally the only thing it could be

wtf are you even talking about?
Can you even read?

He sensed Odens Haki when scabbards used Ryou and he is doing same when Zoro used Ryou.

Kaido is a dumbfuck who thinks everyone who can use samurai Ryou is using Oden Ryou.

Like how can you not understand something so basic?
All the burden of proof falls on you, when we are told by the sword Smith that Enma takes users Ryou.

So if you gonna make a wild ass claim that Enma has Odens Haki in it..You have to show me concrete statement about it. Why hasn't Zoro noticed any external Haki in it?

Where is the manga statement talking about Odens Haki.

I shouldn't even be addressing something so retarded.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Guy, Go fuck yourself, Stop acting like a god damn little bitch and type that go to line, It's the only thing you say to people you don't like. So again Fuck off.

Calm down bro

 

[Finalbeta]

 

[Blother Fertitta]

You dont know whats will? I think you need to reread one piece , and do some research about inherited will.
I dont have to confirm that something doesnt exist its not how it works. You claim something exists its on you to prove it exists if you cant provide proof then its just head canon.
Dead men dont have haki there is no proof of it any the manga just assuming they do without any proof or evidence is delusional.
Inherited haki is what possess items and its what gets moved from a dead person to the next generation. Zoro and Enma inherited odens will to cut down Kaido and thats why kaido senses oden in Enma.
I gave you another proof because the Kaido sensed Oden in the scabbards attack i dont remember which panel but i am sure someone could post it.
How come kaido sensed oden in their attack when oden never used any of their swords??? Its not because they possess his haki its because they possess his will. Along side a haki that is similar to his(ryou).

Bro don’t take this troll srsly. I’m pretty sure it’s Kurwas alt. This guy is a little wormy troll feeding off Zoro fan bait

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Oh yea kaido sensing oden in enma is zero evidence .
Haki is literally the only thing it could be.

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What is will? Specify it in detail please and. How can kaido sense will?
Dead men can’t use haki? Show me where that’s ever been confirmed in the manga?
Also when has a dead man ever even had the chance to confirm this headcannon in the first place.

I will end your entire point right now in one sentence. To say that will equals haki means that luffy has been carried this entire series since he has being using the will of d (which you believe is haki of previous d's) stated to be the will passed on to D's.

 

[Wusi]

The fodder war will also be interesting though

5.000 from 5.400 VS 27.000 from 30.000

Plot twist of 5.000 samurai & 5.000 ninja turn back to wano, the ninja head already move away from the war

The plot of o-tama that can create a mochi to tame beast is there with usopp as sharpshooter

Xdrake & basil hawkins still not shown

King & Queen VS marco

Return of 9 scabbards, yamato, sulong army

Marine participation (sword & cp0)

The not shown numbers

Return of jack

Wanda VS perospero

Straw hat crew VS flying six

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

Bro don’t take this troll srsly. I’m pretty sure it’s Kurwas alt. This guy is a little wormy troll feeding off Zoro fan bait

Actually you might be up to something
:zorothink:

 

[Kuruka]

It literally says in the manga that dead samurais soul are in the sword and the swordman that uses it after inherits their will. It also says that haki is an ability that all living beings possess. Once again do you know how to read?

How does this prove anything?
Isn’t haki basically willpower..
You actually proved my point completely :cheers: thanks

 

[Ravagerblade]

Calm down bro

Guy should calm the fuck down, All he does is, Learn to Read... for his arguments, As if that's going to do anything. No Fuck him. Fuck his attitude.

 

[Rekien]

Brain in this forum ?

Theres no brains here, only hate.

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

Theres no brains here, only hate.

 

[Guymieux]

Guy should calm the fuck down, All he does is, Learn to Read... for his arguments, As if that's going to do anything. No Fuck him. Fuck his attitude.

Are you that averse to learning how to read buddy ? Then let me help you . Averse means to have a strong dislike or opposition to something

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How does this prove anything?
Isn’t haki basically willpower..
You actually proved my point completely :cheers: thanks

Dead men don’t have haki buddy! Dead men don’t have will. But their will can be inherited . Does that clear it up for you?

 

[Vanlax]

"Like the Moon, you are ignorant of the Dawn. If there is one ardent wish that must be fufilled, it will be when nine shadows are cast woven together through twenty years of moonlits nights. Only then shall you understand the radiance of Dawn."
-Kozuki Toki

When Zoro finally activates Asura, with the 9 blades blackened as they are being coated with his haki.
Will Toki's prophecy of the 9 shadows actually come true?!
Will Zoro make Kaido know of the the Radiance of the Dawn?!
Is Zoro actually the Dawn after all?!!

:cheers: