Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1004 Spoilers Discussion

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Roger and WB would neg diff him tho.

not neg diff
but certainly a tier above

same way they are a tier above kaido

 

[NotTommy]

Look, Franky is really fucking strong and he should be.

But there's no way Jinbei = Franky, that is too much wanking even for me.

Even if they beat similar opponents, how they deal with them and with what difficulty is key. Maybe Sasaki will be more impressive than Who's Who,we'll see. Jimbei still has feats from earlier too.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Usopp will unlock CoA

 

[Bounty]

Fuck, she better be!! For how Oda thoroughly wasted her in the flashback (giving her no agency other than popping out Oden’s kids and making him look better when he danced naked in the street), this would be the best form of justice for a super intriguing character.

I want it to be Toki so badly, but I definitely think it's going to be Hiyori which is so underwhelming. I'd rather have Tengu or someone else except for her playing the usual cheerleading role or being taken as a hostage.

I can only see her fighting Orochi if he gets revived or something.

 

[Chrono]

Hiyori is here to witness the defeat of Orochi. She will reunite with Zoro soon.

 

[Buusatan94]

Hopefully Hiyori didn't bring Toko with her, or Toko didn't follow her like Tama did, this time.

 

[Jailer]

He aint kaido........

Even Lucci knows that shit, he never fought Luffy in full zoan form.

Full zoan forms in Wano are just eye candy, 99% of the time trash.

 

[Chrono]

not neg diff
but certainly a tier above

same way they are a tier above kaido

No way Kaido didnt progress in 20 years. Kaido was stronger than Oden there....and he is far stronger now. Hes just a dumb fuck who likes people landing hits on him. If he fought Oden properly, hed defeat him.

 

[Tobra]

Luffy zoro sanji will always be the top 3 with significant gap between the rest of the crew no matter who joins

jinbe is gonna look a lot less impressive from now on that’s what always happened

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I want it to be Toki so badly, but I definitely think it's going to be Hiyori which is so underwhelming. I'd rather have Tengu or someone else except for her playing the usual cheerleading role or being taken as a hostage.

I can only see her fighting Orochi if he gets revived or something.

Definitely think Hiyori is more likely, but if we’re gonna yank a worthless prick like Orochi back from the jaws of oblivion, that further highlights how badly Oda has treated Toki

 

[hedera__helix]

Hiyori really gets to see her man behead Kaido

 

[Indigo]

Nothing personal, that’s my go-to response when someone says dumb shit like “Franky has no chance of joining Jinbe in terms of power”...what have either of them done that makes you think the gulf is that wide??

Franky has NO HAKI.

Jinbei has blocked Big Mom with his bare hands, throwed her off the boat with Vagabond Drill, did a fucking Judo move with her ass during the start of the invasion.

Jinbei was able to fight in marineford protecting him form Akainu two times, tanking a hit right in the fucking back that went through him and not getting really fucked up.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Obviously facing Kaido
Scaring 2 yonko etc is better than just a facing a yc

Portrayal matters

 

[yj]

franky weapons>>>germa

greater than the useless magnet too

 

[Chrono]

Luffy zoro sanji will always be the top 3 with significant gap between the rest of the crew no matter who joins

jinbe is gonna look a lot less impressive from now on that’s what always happened

Jinbe was below Sanji the moment they both fought Wada, and Jinbe used his strongest attack and Sanji used a casual HM kick and was the one who defeated him.

 

[Indigo]

Bunch of Jinbei haters / downplayers i see.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Franky has NO HAKI.

Jinbei has blocked Big Mom with his bare hands, throwed her off the boat with Vagabond Drill, did a fucking Judo move with her ass during the start of the invasion.

Jinbei was able to fight in marineford protecting him form Akainu two times, tanking a hit right in the fucking back that went through him and not getting really fucked up.

And yet, without Haki, Franky has toppled government assassins and multiple members of a Shichibukai’s crew, on top of frying a fish man with a laser, delivering powerful blows to an ancient giant ogre, and oh yeah, RAMMING A YONKO’S FACE WITH A MOTORCYCLE. I’m not gonna trash Jinbe, but I damn sure won’t allow you to slander Franky either.

 

[Salah WG]

You realize people don’t just stand there and get hit right? Like I never understood why people act like someone is gonna stand there and get hit

You realize people don't just stand when they attack all the time, right?
Flying Slashes can be dodged but Close Attack, it will be Zoro's Speed & Technique & Power vs King's
It's obvious who is Superior

 

[Indigo]

Jinbe was below Sanji the moment they both fought Wada, and Jinbe used his strongest attack and Sanji used a casual HM kick and was the one who defeated him.

What about Sanji having to need help from Luffy to block an attack from Big Mom? but Jinbei does it alone with his bare hands?

 

[Kishido]

Jinbei is just a Fourth Robin(Franky being the second, Brook being the third)

Someone who appeared on the same level as The Monster Trio but arguably fell behind them. Robin looked stronger than Sanji at one point as well

@Kishido was right

I am but I don't give a fuck anymore. Let people die or live stupid.

The next one is Yamato because she knocked out Ulti blindsided... Cool.

And I love her btw