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How does someone weaker than flyers and vets have 700M above his other siblings? No/low diff mid tiers easily

He was never below Snack
He is especially cruel and brutal and enjoys killing which boosts bounty, he is the oldest sibling and has commanding authority over the crew as such which boosts bounty, and is decently strong. Oven and daifuku still outclassed him in strength by quite a lot, its just that strength is the only factor in their bounty.
 
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Oda showed that he is on par with Inu, attacking someone who was sitting on an animal doesn't mean anything especially when Jack hit him back and made him bleed in base not even hybrid

Ashura AP > Jack
Same with kinnemon , he has AP matching sulong dukes , denjiro and Ashura
Even tho kinnemon is weaker than them.

Sulong Dukes >= Hybrid Jack >Ashura>=Base Jack ~ Base dukes > Mamonth Jack
 
Stop writing whatever

Perospero has a bounty > oven + daifuku bounty combined
Pero rivals Marco
Pero Is the one who's highlighted and given more Ws
It's always been obvious. Perospero's bounty is higher than Snack's. Perospero managed
to trap a supernova's power in big father. He no diffed mid fighters, pedro, brook and chopper easily.
When he did candy maiden Jinbe told Luffy to not engage it and was shocked luffy could break it.
It took three vinsmokes using black bug together to break his candy wall
Oven was run over by Capone, speed blitzed by sanji, pierced by ichiji --- continuously humiliated by
other veteran level fighters. The portrayal was clearly different plus Peros bounty is more than twice his
 
Oda showed that he is on par with Inu, attacking someone who was sitting on an animal doesn't mean anything especially when Jack hit him back and made him bleed in base not even hybrid

People love forgetting it was just Base Jack against Ashura Douji. And it was a back and forth clash. Imagine if Sanji was going blow for blow against Page One without his devil fruit........ thats basically what Ashura Douji did against Jack. The cut was impressive sure, but ultimately Jack wasn't even trying.
 
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Lol jabra vs sanji, kurobi vs sanji, and even Mr 2 vs sanji, wernt throw away fights without any meaning. This is straight up bullshit. Maybe you just din

He is especially cruel and brutal and enjoys killing which boosts bounty, he is the oldest sibling and has commanding authority over the crew as such which boosts bounty, and is decently strong. Oven and daifuku still outclassed him in strength by quite a lot, its just that strength is the only factor in their bounty.
It's not that
They from the same crew, he's only 2 years older than both
They were all present when BMP started 33 years ago
Oven is also cruel.... in fact Oevn doesn't like wasting time talking when he can finish someone

The reason you are hyping Oven and daifuku is because they matched Base sanji? Lol

Where did you see Oven/daifuku outclass him?
Daifuku struggled to tag sulong carrot until sulong ran out while Perospero just beat Wanda and carrot
Oven low diffs sulong pekoms ? Pero no diffed Pedro
Sulong Pekoms > Pedro ....Perospero would low diff Pekpms too... mid diff sulonh Pedro
 
Ashura AP > Jack
Same with kinnemon , he has AP matching sulong dukes , denjiro and Ashura
Even tho kinnemon is weaker than them.

Sulong Dukes >= Hybrid Jack >Ashura>=Base Jack ~ Base dukes > Mamonth Jack
If you think of it Jack took a direct hit from a high tier swordsmen who has advanced haki and continued fighting in base the dude's durability is very high
 
Zoro isn't going to somehow make his way to king and beat him, and then make his way back to the kaido fight and be there for its finally and inflict damage. Zoro us getting all the hype you could possibly want on that roof. King is also not someone who is a good showcase for enma like the roof is. Zoro doesn't need enma to inflict damage on King. King however is a great showcase for the raidsuits flight, invisibility, durability mobility and all that jazz. Queen isn't. Sanji getting a speed or flight buff is irrelevant as fuck against queen since he is a big fat powerbased lard who will just need brute force to beat.
Queen showed promising reflexes (maybe he specializes in COO just like Sanji!), and you're already assuming he'd be too slow for Sanji. At this point, you're making up reasons for Sanji VS King to happen.


"Invisibility, durability mobility" can also apply to Queen. And how does "needing brute force" fail to show the Raidsuit's special features when that means AMPLIFYING Sanji's strength?
 
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Why? the dude was a sweet general, Perospero = Snack at best
Snack was SC, Pero doesn't seem to want to be commander.
Snack was demoted, losing to Urouge , failing to beat weakened Judge.
What exactly has Snack done?

Pero has more experience
Snack is young and weak.

Pero > Snack.
Snack has potential
 
In terms of “logic”, Sanji vs King makes sense. But Oda has never given Sanji the “logical” fight. Sanjis only ever gotten a throwaway fight. Because that’s not his character. His primary role is chef.

Zoro’s the only characters who’s fights are meticulously crafted. Zoro’s fights add meaning to the progression of the story with relation to his character.
  • Mr. 1 allowed Zoro to learn that traveling with the strawhats will inevitably make him stronger after he was wondering why he’s traveling with them in the first place. This was achieved after learning to cut steel.
  • The fight against Braham in Skypeia enabled Zoro to learn Flying slashes which prepared him for his fight against Kaku
  • Kaku’s fight was against a Zoan powerhouse Yontoryu user. Zoro had learned to break through Zoan durability and Zoan physical buff that tacked onto the already great swordsmanship Kaku had.
  • The Ryuma fight was to earn Shusui, and understand the significance and strength possessed by Wano samurai
  • Kuma fight highlighted Zoro’s willpower, durability, and ambitions. If he were to sleep or die, there would be a chance Luffy and his crew would be unsafe
  • Pica fight allowed Zoro to coat his blades with Ryuo and he could finally drink again since he accomplished his task, Mihawk set for him
  • The Killer/Gyukimaru fight pushed Zoro to increase his awareness. There’s no fair play in piracy. He learned to watch his guard. That’s why kawamatsu and Gyukimaru went differently
  • That killer fight and Enma prepped him for the rooftop fight
  • And the same will be the case for Zoro against King, fighting the strongest Swordsman in Wano
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This is straight up garbage. Sanji vs jabra, mr2 kurobi, and abusalom were not throw away fights. You list kaku vs zoro as some deep meticulously crafted battle but say jabra vs sanji is throwaway even tho he faced exactly the same challenges as zoro there? Maybe you have never cared enough to think about what meaning the fights add to sanjis character progression but hey. king has so far used his feet more than his sword while fighting. Zoro will get his progression against kaido, not king and thats more than enough.
 
He's done/will be done soon, I still see him as the most efficent Beast Pirate when compared to his "big brothers" King and Queen
How is the the most efficient?
  • failed at retrieving Luffy
  • Failed at retrieving Doffy
  • Failed at retrieving Raizo
  • Failed at killing the Dukes at Zou
  • failed at killing the duke at the Roof
Kaido had to step in twice for him. Queen brought down the big mom threat by himself and brought her to Onigashima. Queen plagued the live stadium samurai and pirates. Queen and WsW scope out Drake for being a spy.
King is ordering the Tobi Roppo like a general. King kicked the big mom pirate ship and separated the crew from Big Mom. King assisted Kaido in killing Orochi. King sent StealthBlack flying after one hit
 
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If you think of it Jack took a direct hit from a high tier swordsmen who has advanced haki and continued fighting in base the dude's durability is very high
Yes but th
Lol I like how he's saying that the only reason why Peros is strong is because of his hax devil fruit, this is the same man who easily took down Pedro without even using his devil fruit.:milaugh:
Base Pero >>>> Pedro who is above any mink except dukes.
Sulong Musketeers and guardians + Sulong pekoms may be > Pedro .
Sulong Carrot ~ < sulong Wanda ~ Pedro.
Pero can still low/mid diff them 1v1

Even sulong Pedro won't beat Perospero.

There's no reason to believe Perospero is trash it his base can easily outclass Pedro
Basd Pedro is much faster and stronger than base carrot who gave nitorryo zoro trouble ...
 
This is straight up garbage. Sanji vs jabra, mr2 kurobi, and abusalom were not throw away fights. You list kaku vs zoro as some deep meticulously crafted battle but say jabra vs sanji is throwaway even tho he faced exactly the same challenges as zoro there? Maybe you have never cared enough to think about what meaning the fights add to sanjis character progression but hey. king has so far used his feet more than his sword while fighting. Zoro will get his progression against kaido, not king and thats more than enough.
Sanji vs Kuroobi was a solid fight. Sanji vs Mr. 2 he had to overcome his perviness which he still hasn’t. Sanji vs Jabra was a mid diff save. And Absalom fight was literally to find out who the stronger perv is... oh my god it’s worse than I thought
 
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