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for all we know

lucky roux: very possible and this has been a theory for years especially since it’s possible he’s based off lucky Luke who moves faster then his shadow

shanks: the fact he is able to get anywhere so fast which is still a mystery
Did you seriously call my take headcanon for calling Kizaru fastest while having these opinions?


Even Rakuyo fought and reacted to Kizaru. Kizaru’s speed is overrated. He’s fast, but not leagues above other top tiers in terms of speed. Heck, I wouldn’t even be surprised if someone like Shanks was faster, given what he did to Akainu
Rakuyo never fought Kizaru. He's only seen attacking Kizaru once which is in no way the same as what Marco did. Kizaru is faster than any other character in the series. If top-tiers can react to him. It means their reactions are that good not that Kizaru is slow.
 
Did you seriously call my take headcanon for calling Kizaru fastest while having these opinions?




Rakuyo never fought Kizaru. He's only seen attacking Kizaru once which is in no way the same as what Marco did. Kizaru is faster than any other character in the series. If top-tiers can react to him. It means their reactions are that good not that Kizaru is slow.
Kizaru was shown firing a laser at Rakuyo, and Rakuyo was just fine in the next chapter. Even Pre-TS Apoo was good enough to be able to notice Kizaru’s presence before getting kicked
 
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KING VS MARCO is a resistance fight, KING will continue to cut MARCO's limbs, and will suffer the damage of MARCO, which is nothing to exaggerate, until finally MARCO runs out.
It is a resistance struggle.
 
Even Rakuyo fought and reacted to Kizaru. Kizaru’s speed is overrated. He’s fast, but not leagues above other top tiers in terms of speed. Heck, I wouldn’t even be surprised if someone like Shanks was faster, given what he did to Akainu
Shanks came out of no where, the impressive part is he stunned Akainu and Akainu couldn't do anything knowing that Shanks can beat him. Not the part where he suddenly appeared because no one knew RHPs were there. They caught everyone off guard. I don't see how that's a speed feat.
 
for all we know

lucky roux: very possible and this has been a theory for years especially since it’s possible he’s based off lucky Luke who moves faster then his shadow

shanks: the fact he is able to get anywhere so fast which is still a mystery
Lucky Roux is probably super fast in short distances like Zoro is with he uses one of his blitz attacks. Same with Shanks too tbh. Overall Kizaru should be faster since he can travel at the speed of light. Only a character with teleportation abilities should be faster than Kizaru in theory tbh.
 
Marco blitzes Queen and sends him flying:

Marco claws Queen's face leaving it bleeding:

Marco hits Queen with a shockwave, making him vomit blood. No, the dialogue confirms this is not Queen's own laser damaging him.

Marco is literally dominating Queen while fighting King.
Shockwave is POTENTIALLY advanced haki (Hyogoro type) ... Again, potentially...

Cause that's what Blackbeard stated when Sengoku was spamming that technique on their asses
 

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Kizaru was shown firing a laser at Rakuyo, and Rakuyo was just fine in the next chapter. Even Pre-TS Apoo was good enough to be able to notice Kizaru’s presence before getting kicked
Can you post the panel? I am rather certain he was never shown to be attacking Rakuyo in specific. Getting noticed by Apoo doesn't make Kizaru slow.
 

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Let's resume the situation

We have

> King / Queen aim at killing the scabbards at all cost, yet they think they can't do that due to Marco taking too much of their attention(according to King despite having Queen alongside him)

> Marco is fighting King and Queen in a 2 vs 1 for multiple chapters(with his healing ability active on the dying samurai he aims at protecting), yet Marco only has a scrath, while King is dripping blood, with Queen even more damaged




This suggest it'd take much more time to see a winner despite Marco already fighting in a 2 vs 1, likely the reason of Perospero's involvement by the end of the chapter. He'd play the role Flampe did in the Luffy vs Katakuri fight, except that unlike Katakuri who was getting stressed on base Luffy without noticing Flampe, Marco would be facing 2 opponents with higher bounty than Katakuri, with Perospero's potential support being superior to Flampe's as well

If Oda goes out of his way not only to portray Marco in a comparative level to the 2 strongest calamities despite fighting in a 2vs1 to the point of involving Perospero's help to tip the scale of the fight, that alone suggest than in case of a 1 on 1, Marco would have ragdolled them

He is a level above King
 
Shanks came out of no where, the impressive part is he stunned Akainu and Akainu couldn't do anything knowing that Shanks can beat him. Not the part where he suddenly appeared because no one knew RHPs were there. They caught everyone off guard. I don't see how that's a speed feat.
Shanks showed up right in front of Akainu before any of the 100k people at MF could notice the Red Force had arrived.
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Let's resume the situation

We have

> King / Queen aim at killing the scabbards at all cost, yet they think they can't do that due to Marco taking too much of their attention(according to King despite having Queen alongside him)

> Marco is fighting King and Queen in a 2 vs 1 for multiple chapters(with his healing ability active on the dying samurai he aims at protecting), yet Marco only has a scrath, while King is dripping blood, with Queen even more damaged




This suggest it'd take much more time to see a winner despite Marco already fighting in a 2 vs 1, likely the reason of Perospero's involvement by the end of the chapter. He'd play the role Flampe did in the Luffy vs Katakuri fight, except that unlike Katakuri who was getting stressed on base Luffy without noticing Flampe, Marco would be facing 2 opponents with higher bounty than Katakuri, with Perospero's potential support being superior to Flampe's as well

If Oda goes out of his way not only to portray Marco in a comparative level to the 2 strongest calamities despite fighting in a 2vs1 to the point of involving Perospero's help to tip the scale of the fight, that alone suggest than in case of a 1 on 1, Marco would have ragdolled them

He is a level above King
Do you think that this is Marco’s hybrid form?
 
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King only cut Marco when Marco was fighting Queen.
Well, you can use this justification to minimize KING, but in the last chapter MARCO was injured and we only have KING on the panel shooting him, so somehow KING inflicted damage on MARCO.
 
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