Who is this "Oden"?


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If this truly is Oden and not some weird slight of hand set up by the Beast Pirates or one of Kanjuro’s drawings, I’ll feel comfortable calling it Oda’s biggest narrative misstep of the series. We’ve literally learned everything there is to know about Oden, and most of it has only served to make him less and less impressive as the arc stretches ever onward. Toki is like every one of us here - tons of wasted or otherwise unrealized potential, constantly shafted by some shitty writer and relegated to a footnote in what should be the perfect arc to yield focus a bit.
If Oda plans on doing anything with Toki it's not going to be in the middle of the arc with no proper setup, or buildup to it. She's the key to information about the Void Century.... That's not going to just get slapped into the story out of place....
 
not really we havent seen him fight them except for ace, and even then all bb did in that fight was stand on the same spot and use black hole to suck ace in
Ace couldn't dodge his karate chop lol.

Look at it this way, in a few arcs, Teach will be fighting Luffy who is faster than the current Luffy that can use FS. And he won't be 'too slow' for Luffy.

It will be like Crocodile in MF vs Crocodile in Alabasta situation.
 
yes dragons are a mythological creature and we have seen actual dragons before
We only know about a single dragon from Ryuma's past, which we don't even know if it's a variant of the fish-fish fruit like Kaido's or an actual one. So that is not a concrete example.

The story of monsters is not canon, only the character of Ryuma and the event of him slaying a dragon is canon.
 
Wouldn't make any kind of sense.
How on earth would she know Oden? How would she know what he meant to Wano and the scabbards? How would she just conveniently show up at Onigashima at this moment, when she was chilling at the other end of the New World only a few days ago(when we saw her imitating Absalom)?
Teach knew Oden :kayneshrug:
 

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Ace couldn't dodge his karate chop lol.

Look at it this way, in a few arcs, Teach will be fighting Luffy who is faster than the current Luffy that can use FS. And he won't be 'too slow' for Luffy.

It will be like Crocodile in MF vs Crocodile in Alabasta situation.
yeah he couldn't dodge it because he was at point black range and even then BB couldn't react to ace's flaming spears coming at him in a straight line
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We only know about a single dragon from Ryuma's past, which we don't even know if it's a variant of the fish-fish fruit like Kaido's or an actual one. So that is not a concrete example.

The story of monsters is not canon, only the character of Ryuma and the event of him slaying a dragon is canon.
The story of monsters is canonical what are you talking about?
Do you even read one piece? Why do you think ryuma exists in one piece? You think he is filler? WHAT?:nicagesmile:
 

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If Oda plans on doing anything with Toki it's not going to be in the middle of the arc with no proper setup, or buildup to it. She's the key to information about the Void Century.... That's not going to just get slapped into the story out of place....
He also opted not to do anything with her when he *did* have the setup, buildup, ample opportunity...if not in the flashback where she supposedly died, then when? Also, I disagree that he wouldn’t just bring that up out of nowhere, because that’s exactly what he did in said flashback before dropping the topic entirely. I understand she probably holds a lot of secrets regarding the central ethos of the series, but we all know the end is near and getting closer every chapter...how much longer do we need to edge like this?
 
Wouldn't make any kind of sense.
How on earth would she know Oden? How would she know what he meant to Wano and the scabbards? How would she just conveniently show up at Onigashima at this moment, when she was chilling at the other end of the New World only a few days ago(when we saw her imitating Absalom)?
Lol, at this point, the justification for it not being Oden sound more horrible writing than Oden actually being alive hahahaha... Oda put the fans into a corner LOL
 
Oden being Present now is Hype but bringing him back after that Epic Death is disappointing
Gyukimaru or Kanjuro doing this is Logical & Possible but it's also disappointing for baiting both Readers & Scabbards

Only possibility of this Scene being Relevant & taking us somewhere is if this is actually Devon & Blackbeard Pirates will appear in Wano
Or at least some of them (BB sent Burgess to take Mera Mera No Mi from Dressrosa, why wouldn't he do the same for Wano)

Jack is coming after them so this Oden whoever he is will need to Fight him & i think this is what will confirm for Us & Scabbards if he is truly Oden or a Fake
 
Man even if that Oden is real or not this arc is so fucking trash. Just name this arc "Oden" already.

10 fucking years waiting for a good SH arc to be focused on some Gary Stu that everyone magically loves and gets all the focus. What's next, fucking Zoro saying "I LOVE ODEN!!!"?

Fuck this arc, just give me Laugh Tale and end this already.
 
yeah he couldn't dodge it because he was at point black range and even then BB couldn't react to ace's flaming spears coming at him in a straight line
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The story of monsters is canonical what are you talking about?
Do you even read one piece? Why do you think ryuma exists in one piece? You think he is filler? WHAT?:nicagesmile:
Alright, now that you've started this let's go by your claim. You are not going to back off from the fact that their were literally western styled people with cowboy hats and pubs in Wano?
You will accept that you were a clown if you're going to deny this now
 
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