Who is this "Oden"?


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Are you talking about Queen? I've been telling you guys you're overrating the fuck out of commanders. You all got obsessed with Cracker/YC3s being >= Luffy, when it was clear Cracker was nowhere near Luffy's overall combat level (Apoo equivalent of WCI). He just had a good stall tactic. Oda had to reinvent Katakuri's character and give him FS/CoC for Luffy to have a proper opponent.

Now you expect guys like Queen/King to be some monsters, when they're OK at best.
Apoo isn't Cracker
Stoo writing your fanfics
Cracker was ~ luffy.
Boundman Luffy failed caused it lacked the skills and power to beat Cracker
The battle was intense

Apoo never fought g4 or even g2 luffy. So stop usual downplay.

No, Cracker isn't YC3 or YC2 level
It doesn't exist.

Cracker ~ or >= Smoothie/King/Marco >= Queen >~ Vista > Jack/handicapped Jozu
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Have Marco hold down Doffy and Chopper would have mauled him
Stop
You guys were hoping Marco for a sneak attack on Zoan Queen which made him bleed

Chopper also got a free shot like Marco did.
Both made zoan Queen bleed.

Restricted or not, Queen never had his guard/haki on when Marco and Chopper hurt him
 
Apoo isn't Cracker
Stoo writing your fanfics
Cracker was ~ luffy.
Boundman Luffy failed caused it lacked the skills and power to beat Cracker
The battle was intense

Apoo never fought g4 or even g2 luffy. So stop usual downplay.

No, Cracker isn't YC3 or YC2 level
It doesn't exist.

Cracker ~ or >= Smoothie/King/Marco >= Queen >~ Vista > Jack/handicapped Jozu
You think Cracker >= smoothie/king/marco??
 
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Cut to Red Scabbards room. They are all awake and wondering who treated their wounds.
Kinemon: "The fight is still going on!
Let's get out of this room and help the others!!"


So, they are still not giving up and wants to fight. There's no need for Onimaru to motivate them I guess.

:giogio:
That's why Onimaru being Oden doesn't make sense

People dont even seem to see that retainers never lost hope!
Ir isn't Onimaru , it isn't hiyori prank, it is definitely not Katarina

It is most likely Toki who sent Oden to the future.
 
That's funny, the more I think about it, I believe he is real. Oda isn't stupid, he can make this good and do this well. A onimaru or a kanhuro reveal is so anticlimactic. It's like oh fox has arrived, cool, he is like what? High headliner level maybe? Big help. Or kanjuro, who feels like over and done with. There will be no redemption for that fuck, so theybwould just roll over him again.
its to instill hope into them after losing to kaido again. even kinemon said i cannot face oden in the afterlife, bc the feel ashamed, so if a fake oden comes in to cheer them on they may not lost hope after all
 
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