Greatest Hype In this Chapter?


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The double combo Kaido@Big Mom attack is way more destructive than what Roger show us. I dont know how people can even put the 2 thing together. It like putting headcanon over everything. Just nonsense
It is not really a question of destructive or not.
But Roger here wanted to test Oden only, he needed Oden to question him about Wano etc, so it would be completely stupid to try to kill or maim him hard.
And Oden was only send backward a little and with little bruises.

But even Oden back then if entierely focused and prepared could have resist it better.
 
Are you capping right now?

Are people really this silly? Current kaido is leaps and bounds stronger than the kaido that oden fought 20 years ago. Which means any feat that zoro and luffy do against current kaido will automatically be above oden
not really ... cause Kaido himself up to this date respect Oden's power and consider him among top 5 enemy he ever saw

he is yet to show such respect to this "brats"
 
Yup, Attacks usually don't get much weaker when characters get injured even more so when the character in question is a main character fighting the main arc battle. But Zoro in a better condition would've been able to maintain the form for an extended period of time and inflected even more damage considering Asura probably dealt more damage in one attack than anything Kaido received so far in the fight from Scabbards to G4 Luffy with ADCOA.
probably, but it happens like that in battles...you don't show your best move from the start...what if Kaido starts seriously from the fight too unlike he did in the previous few chapters...it is not like Kaido wait and let Zoro attack in ashura if he wa serious from the start...and giving scar doesn't imply dealing more damage (possible but that is not criteria)...and by the looks of it, Kaido is still not in a near death situation.....there will be more to come from him...and Zoro didn't start fight in a worst condition, then how do you even call this nerf...
 
Yea Rogers attack on oden is minuscule compared to Hakai . And guess what roger blew oden away instantly while zoro stood his ground like i said . Now learn how to read
he CAUGHT oden off guard, and bruh there are no flaws in reading here its not our problem that you pour bleach in your eyes before looking at the panels
 
An explanation about the situation right now and why some people think that Zoro is doing more than Luffy:

The thing is, we've been seeing Luffy doing always the main fights, now Zoro is there to help so it's obvious that people(specially Zoro fans) are going to see more to what Zoro does in the fight than Luffy as we are already accustomed to see Luffy doing his things.

Zoro is doing super well in this fight letting aside the fights if it's because Enma or not, he cut Kaidou in order to release his captain but not only that but he was also able to stop Hakai for a brief moment to give them time to escape(which they all did thanks to Law), and now he has finally awakened Haoushoku tho we don't know if it was uncuncious as Luffy did pre time skip or not(we have to wait to read this chapter to see if they give us information about this).

In my opinion obviously Luffy has been the one who has done more damage and things in this fight but the second supernova who did more was undoubtedly Zoro as he has saved Luffy in the fight a few times too.

But again, I can understand people saying that Zoro did better or is better than Luffy because it's a rare thing that he is fighting there.
 
Oden was not caught off guard they were running to each other with swords out oden called him a beast and then roger attacked . In what way is that off guard you bozo?
caught off guard = an abrupt unexpected slash attack when oden was approaching for sword calsh

HOW CAN U MESS UP NOTICING JUST TRIVIAL DETAIL
 
How much stronger? Why is Kaido still hyping Oden 20 years later? Even at that stage Kaido was known as 'invincible Kaido'. The narrator said Oden knew no 'enemy of his calibre'. He was grouped with Roger and WB in a similar panel to Ace, Sabo and Luffy. His hype is off the charts.

Yes Zoro scarring Kaido was his limit. Oden could have kept fighting if not for the distraction. Note how Oda had to give him a distraction for Kaido to take him down. None was needed for Kaido to Thunder Bagua Zoro and put him on the ground.
Well, this is bullshit, preview chapter, Luffy said that the next attack is a big one, Big Mom said that how many will die on it? Kaido is surprise he can hear voices after, Law ask to Zoro if he still alive. what in the world are you talking? Oden would be heavly damaged too.
It is clear that Zoro took insane amount of damage there, Killer ask to Zoro if he is okay going to promethus and Zoro replay he has too.

Dont even compare the damage that the other 5 took compare to Zoro. There are league away. That all I have to say
 
- High level of haki can allow you to resist even one of the most broken devil fruit's abilities(Law's ope ope no mi, worth 5 Billions berry)
- High level of observation haki can allow you to see a glimpse of the future
- High level of armament haki allows you to bypass all devil fruit defenses to destroy people from within and protect yourself against those devil fruits as well
- High level of conqueror haki allows you to dominate the will of others knocking them out(even a conqueror haki user on Luffy's level)

I think we got a glimpse of what complete non-devil fruit users top tiers could do

When Shanks will come back to the story, his hype will be off the chart

- High level of haki can allow you to resist even one of the most broken devil fruit's abilities(Law's ope ope no mi, worth 5 Billions berry)
- High level of observation haki can allow you to see a glimpse of the future
- High level of armament haki allows you to bypass all devil fruit defenses to destroy people from within and protect yourself against those devil fruits as well
- High level of conqueror haki allows you to dominate the will of others knocking them out(even a conqueror haki user on Luffy's level)

I think we got a glimpse of what complete non-devil fruit users top tiers could do

When Shanks will come back to the story, his hype will be off the chart

It will be out of the blue but the first reason for Shanks focusing on haki and not having a devil fruit (assuming he doesn't have) may be because he felt responsible for Buggy and wanted to protect/help him if he gets in trouble and fall into sea.

Looking at your Ancient Kingdom vs. World Government theory, there are also theories that WG has a devil fruit tree which is the source to provide their/marine's agents with devil fruits. Origin of the devil fruits may belong to AK and after that somehow WG (or 20 kingdoms) might took the possession of fruits, which may lead AK to found/use haki as a countermeasure to those devil fruits.

My argument is, knowing the lost century (through Roger Pirates or Celestial Dragons), Shanks might have focused on improving his haki to prepare for the final war.
 
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