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Yeah I think, they will show them soon aswell. While Luffy tries to come back, Oda will Imo write all the main fights, before we get to the great showdown.
And I've seen some posts from you and some others about this in this thread already and I actually don't think that any of them are awakened. I've got many reasons for this:
1) Oda Imo wouldn't tease their hybrid forms that much, if they just get skipped over, right after their reveal, for their awakened forms. That's Imo also the reason why Kaido will definitely show something astonishing (his awakened Form) , cause his hybrid mode got handled somewhat anticlimactic.
2) Especially the F6 would get far too powerful Imo. Just imagine Ulti running around in a form as powerful as her Zoan form, while she keeps the speed and agility of her hybrid form (or even faster). Or imagine P1's hybrid form becoming twice its size, imo those guys would end up waaay too strong.
And the problem really is, that I think that Zoan awakening is just this strong. Minotaurus probably went from fodder as a human, to a complete beast, that nearly speedblitzed post Lucci fight Luffy w/o a tech like Soru and that beat Bon Kurei's ass in seconds (Sanji's near physical equal). That's monstrous Imo, highly underrated.
So they ultimately would have to end up become unproportional powerful, which would give Kaido a crew full of Commander lvl guys, which I don't see happening.
Same for the calamities. I think they simply would be far too powerful. They wouldn't be top tiers, but in relation to their Yonkou Commander" counterparts" , they Imo would be far too strong.
3) I'm of the same opinion guys just as ndule and Sanjikun are/were. Imo Oda made guys like Kuri, who was Luffy's antithesis and who was said to be undefeated, and Doffy, himself a king of an island + one of the top shichibukai, extra special by giving them CoC and awakening.
I have my doubts that it's therefore automatically a trend, where the other top Commanders have it aswell.
4) I've read a speculation about, that similar to how Zoro tamed Enma, cause he has extraordinary willpower (underlying CoC) , it might be that those sea devils have to get conquered via supreme will power aswell.
This would also explain why we still only have CoC users as confirmed awakened DF users and it might be the reason why the Jailer beasts in Impel down might have lost their mind, after Vegapunk(?) forcefully awakened them via some lineage factor injection/operation (highly speculative obviously, but still.. ).
But if it's about this I'm not really sure how to feel about it myself, cause this would make plenty of guys who I can see getting it (Chopper) or already having it (Crocodile, Enel) automatically getting ruled out.
But I personally want Marco to show it really bad and I would love it visually, if WhosWho and King would have it. While I in general like the idea of WhosWho having it, basically being an underdog, which with he becomes Jack's near equal, because he doesn't have it. But yeah, that's just my fanfic for now lmao
Sorry, mate. That's one massive answer. I simply like that topic a lot..
And I've seen some posts from you and some others about this in this thread already and I actually don't think that any of them are awakened. I've got many reasons for this:
1) Oda Imo wouldn't tease their hybrid forms that much, if they just get skipped over, right after their reveal, for their awakened forms. That's Imo also the reason why Kaido will definitely show something astonishing (his awakened Form) , cause his hybrid mode got handled somewhat anticlimactic.
2) Especially the F6 would get far too powerful Imo. Just imagine Ulti running around in a form as powerful as her Zoan form, while she keeps the speed and agility of her hybrid form (or even faster). Or imagine P1's hybrid form becoming twice its size, imo those guys would end up waaay too strong.
And the problem really is, that I think that Zoan awakening is just this strong. Minotaurus probably went from fodder as a human, to a complete beast, that nearly speedblitzed post Lucci fight Luffy w/o a tech like Soru and that beat Bon Kurei's ass in seconds (Sanji's near physical equal). That's monstrous Imo, highly underrated.
So they ultimately would have to end up become unproportional powerful, which would give Kaido a crew full of Commander lvl guys, which I don't see happening.
Same for the calamities. I think they simply would be far too powerful. They wouldn't be top tiers, but in relation to their Yonkou Commander" counterparts" , they Imo would be far too strong.
3) I'm of the same opinion guys just as ndule and Sanjikun are/were. Imo Oda made guys like Kuri, who was Luffy's antithesis and who was said to be undefeated, and Doffy, himself a king of an island + one of the top shichibukai, extra special by giving them CoC and awakening.
I have my doubts that it's therefore automatically a trend, where the other top Commanders have it aswell.
4) I've read a speculation about, that similar to how Zoro tamed Enma, cause he has extraordinary willpower (underlying CoC) , it might be that those sea devils have to get conquered via supreme will power aswell.
This would also explain why we still only have CoC users as confirmed awakened DF users and it might be the reason why the Jailer beasts in Impel down might have lost their mind, after Vegapunk(?) forcefully awakened them via some lineage factor injection/operation (highly speculative obviously, but still.. ).
But if it's about this I'm not really sure how to feel about it myself, cause this would make plenty of guys who I can see getting it (Chopper) or already having it (Crocodile, Enel) automatically getting ruled out.
But I personally want Marco to show it really bad and I would love it visually, if WhosWho and King would have it. While I in general like the idea of WhosWho having it, basically being an underdog, which with he becomes Jack's near equal, because he doesn't have it. But yeah, that's just my fanfic for now lmao
Sorry, mate. That's one massive answer. I simply like that topic a lot..
@Cinera lol you were right about he Yamato panel with her looking down on Kaido 
Anyway, do you still believe in Yamato vs Jack?
With Yamato and Kaido outside the Dome, Kaido is free to transform into Dragon form. I wouldn't be surprised if this fight goes on for a while.
Nah. My median estimate is somewhere in the medium difficulty range:
Notice that you can't change your votes in the above poll, so it's not something I just changed.
I think a high difficulty fight is a potential outcome, but it's not one that I consider particularly likely.
I think a low or no difficulty fight is unlikely. I think it's more likely that Yamato forces Kaido to use his Hybrid form than that Base Kaido stomps her the way he did Pre Udon Luffy.
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I am agree with this. I am Suchibukai fan with crocodile as the character i like the most, but i am realistic enough.
The sichibukai power are varied, they are very strong but i can't see most of them beating YC's. If i can place their power level then it would be like this :
- Moriah and Croc are the weakest. But croc is potentially stronger than moriah as he is shown to grow, unlike Moriah who is lazy. Both of them lose against any yc.
- Jimbe could give cracker an extreme diff fight bcs of his water advantage and the biscuits are vulnerable against water. But cracker evade G4 and he cuts luffy's arm while Luffy is in G4. I think it is safe to say that cracker overall stat is better than Jimbei.
- Same goes for doffy, his awakening AP is not that great, Parasite won't last too long against YC. The panel where he stops Jozu in MF can't be judged as if Doffy overpower him. Jozu wasn't even sweating. Yet he can give any YC 2-3 an extreme fight, and he is stronger than Jimbei.
- I believe current Law is at least as strong as Doffy if not stronger.
- Kuma, Handcock, and Weevil are wild card. I cant really judge them as we haven't seen them go all out.
- Only Mihawk is capable to defeat YC's. He is for sure stronger than any YC 1. But my assumption is only based on hype.
- let's ignore Buggy.
This means two things:
- They will either hold her off for one hour until her Kids show up and escort her from the Island (She'll be back in Elbaf).
- Or one of them (or maybe both) will be taken down by her and other supernovas step in to defeat her (maybe Zoro, Killer, or Hawkins).
Big Mom is not going down in one hour.
- They will either hold her off for one hour until her Kids show up and escort her from the Island (She'll be back in Elbaf).
- Or one of them (or maybe both) will be taken down by her and other supernovas step in to defeat her (maybe Zoro, Killer, or Hawkins).
Big Mom is not going down in one hour.
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