Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1021 Spoilers Discussion

[This_Guy]

They don't need to. Jabra and Lucci didn't revert. Only Kaku seemed to in Enies Lobby.

Anyhow, their scenes didn't go on long enough however for you or I to say "yeah see look they are done, they reverted" or "they just stayed in their zoan forms"

Regardless it's just weird that Oda never stayed on top of their victories with official recognition like he has for Ulti/P1/Black Maria

Yeah, I already went back and checked. I misremembered the scene, do my bad. However, still think WW and Sasaki defeats are ambiguous but who knows, they may be down now

 

[Peroroncino]

The guy who made the drawing made robin's arms darker just to fool us

 

[mrtsrdr]

Fifteen chapter kings vs Marco off screen .....

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

who cares about mid piece

we got a new bleach chapter coming

 

[Desolate Smaug]

The demon things is Robins ass pull version of Asura

 

[ConquistadoR]

1. Luffy is a prodigy, so he respectively achieves massive heights. In just over two years he goes from not knowing about Haki to surpassing Hyogoro, fellow conquerors Chinjao and Doflamingo within the same arc, and fellow prodigious conqueror Katakuri with his own specialty. With Robin we're talking about a pirate with twenty years of experience training with high level fighters in just the basic application of ONE color.

2. Haki probably blooms while you're getting your ass beat in the biggest fight of your life, right? We have the scans now so we can see that's exactly what happened. Usopp taps CoO without trying, god forbid Robin has an ougi after all this time.

3. Robin has a high IQ. We would have no idea how long she really had to figure out CoA but we do know it would be much more time than Luffy used to figure out Gear Second, Third, Future sight, or advanced CoC. "Mastered" is a stretch because she didn't pull it out until it was do or die. You might as well complain about Zoro's Haki in Alabasta tbh.

Btw, we're never told that "full body" is any sort of advanced application. It's pretty much just a last ditch effort. As soon as Luffy pulled out Gear 4, a similar concept, Law mentioned how he was using too much. Similar to how Maria straight up comments on Robin trying to do the same thing. Maybe you don't like the writing and that's fair, but it's not bad due to inconsistency.

1. Luffy came out of timeskip with mastery over basic haki. He came out of the timeskip with G4 and he was already stronger than Doflamingo. He only unlocked the advanced CoO in the heat of the battle and even then he wasnt at the level of Katakuri. it took anther two weeks of training his CoA alone in Wano to learn adv CoA. Robin knew jack about haki until the pretimeskip. IMO, Robin shouldve come out of the timeskip only with proficiency in basic armament and observation after training with Sabo and the revolutionaries for two years. But that didnt happen.

2. Is that even haki? I think its just the shading and it doesnt even look like armament to me. But let's just assume its armament haki.

3. High IQ =/= High combat proficiency. If its a haki bloom in the middle of the battle against Black Maria i dont have any issue with it. My original argument was against a person who suggested she learnt it during the 3 weeks between zou and wano when she was inflitrating orochi's castle and she wasnt training her haki.

Luffy knew G4 from the timeskip. He learnt it at Ruskaina and it was explained that he just didnt use it until then because the opponents he faced until doflamingo (hody and caeser) didnt push him to that. Zoro's alabasta thing was a haki bloom. Luffy's future sight at WCI was a haki bloom.

Ill say it again, I firstly dont think its haki but its just the demon colour thingy like hakuba. If its haki, Id gladly accept it as a powerup/haki bloom if it happened mid fight. What i dont like is if she knew it all along since FMI or if she learnt it during the 3 weeks between Zou and Wano because that's just bad writing. IMO.

 

[mrtsrdr]

Two males kissing is not as weird as Sanji wanting to be invisible for the sole purpose of sneaking into ladies bath, his nosebleed gags are overdone and not funny, him trying to take a picture of Nami's body when she's not around, him touching Nami's body inappropriately, him sneaking while Nami was bathing. All these actions are passed as humor.

I don't have problem with men who are overly lovey dovey with women, infact pre ts sanji was good. He could have been like caesar zeppeli, but Oda turned him into a gag character.

Because Oda cut SH character and paste side characters :)
And you only talked for sanji. But all of them lost their special characteristic frame.

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The demon things is Robins ass pull version of Asura

Robin Wing of the zoro.d

 

[Ganja userr]

Robin's new form looks looks pretty damn badass man

 

[Lightbolt]

1. Luffy came out of timeskip with mastery over basic haki. He came out of the timeskip with G4 and he was already stronger than Doflamingo. He only unlocked the advanced CoO in the heat of the battle and even then he wasnt at the level of Katakuri. it took anther two weeks of training his CoA alone in Wano to learn adv CoA. Robin knew jack about haki until the pretimeskip. IMO, Robin shouldve come out of the timeskip only with proficiency in basic armament and observation after training with Sabo and the revolutionaries for two years. But that didnt happen.

2. Is that even haki? I think its just the shading and it doesnt even look like armament to me. But let's just assume its armament haki.

3. High IQ =/= High combat proficiency. If its a haki bloom in the middle of the battle against Black Maria i dont have any issue with it. My original argument was against a person who suggested she learnt it during the 3 weeks between zou and wano when she was inflitrating orochi's castle and she wasnt training her haki.

Luffy knew G4 from the timeskip. He learnt it at Ruskaina and it was explained that he just didnt use it until then because the opponents he faced until doflamingo (hody and caeser) didnt push him to that. Zoro's alabasta thing was a haki bloom. Luffy's future sight at WCI was a haki bloom.

Ill say it again, I firstly dont think its haki but its just the demon colour thingy like hakuba. If its haki, Id gladly accept it as a powerup/haki bloom if it happened mid fight. What i dont like is if she knew it all along since FMI or if she learnt it during the 3 weeks between Zou and Wano because that's just bad writing. IMO.

Zoro Alabasta haki ?

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Something funny came to mind, remember people claimed since Kaidou has the numbers, the balance was tilted towards the Beast Pirates? Good times.

Which number was not oneshot at this point?

 

[ConquistadoR]

Zoro Alabasta haki ?

i honestly dont know what that was - breath of all things? seems like armament haki when koshiro says that you can cut everything and you can cut nothing - exactly like what hyogoro said in wano.

plus its canon that zoro's master and kuina came from wano. oda revealed that in an SBS. koushirou (zoro's master) is the son of shimotsuki kozaburo (the man who made wado ichimonji and enma).

 

[Lightbolt]

i honestly dont know what that was - breath of all things? seems like armament haki when koshiro says that you can cut everything and you can cut nothing - exactly like what hyogoro said in wano.

plus its canon that zoro's master and kuina came from wano. oda revealed that in an SBS. koushirou (zoro's master) is the son of shimotsuki kozaburo (the man who made wado ichimonji and enma).

There is no confirmation at all of Zoro using haki at alabasta

 

[Mr.9000]

They are knocked out on the last page lol, it was very clear they lost. The final explosion was essentually flair...

I should have been clearer, narration also counts. It's on many of the examples in the story, including Franky vs Senor, all the alabasta fights, much of the skypiea stuff, etc. The point im making is that within the confines of the chapter or the scene immediately following with the next chapter, you know character has won their battle. It's why in the following weeks, I've even said to people I'd be down to wait and see if Jinbe won in 1019, or if Franky's scenes continued in 1020....which never happened.

These 2 fights, now for 2-3 chapters, have not been indicative of any victory at all. It's just weird.

Because the 2(maybe 3) of the fights that was "concluded" isnt over. Expect an awakening from at least 2 of them.

 

[Blackknife]

Can someone explain to me how Robin turned into demon?

 

[Luffydom56]

I am wondering who would be Kaido's final Ace, would be funny if it turned out to be Yamato

 

[ConquistadoR]

There is no confirmation at all of Zoro using haki at alabasta

im not calling it haki explicitly. im just saying that's (sorta) like a haki bloom. the way that powerup works.

 

[Ganja userr]

Robin getting 2 chapter for a chapter god bless Ida man she deserves it post time skip

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Can someone explain to me how Robin turned into demon?

She can sprout parts of her body, or her body total.
Meaning she can fuse organic matter (bloom) to sprout onto objects around her.
Giant hands and feat are a fusion of individual arms and legs fused together.
All she did here was to sprout and fuse organic matter to look a certain way, it does not have any additional power, just looks cool.

 

[donkey]

im not calling it haki explicitly. im just saying that's (sorta) like a haki bloom. the way that powerup works.

People in one piece world have three things from which they derive their power physique(life force) ,soul ,spirit(asura.,monkey,phoesant) all three are connected together to make a complete living being.

Note there may be people with elemental spirit

Haki is force which arises from amalgamation of physique spirit and soul of a person.

Spirit are unique to a person and have special ability
associated with them zoros asura is quake and sword luffys is internal destruction aokiji pheasant and akainus red dog

Armament haki is a force which arises from physique and spirit is person when you master your armament to higher level you can add your spirits unique ability to it ex(luffys internal destruction).

Observation haki is force which arises soul and physical sense of a person and highest form is future sight

Conqurers haki is force which arises from soul and spirit of a person and it's ability to overwhelm and highest form is coating which increases speed and attack power

Highest form of all haki is mastering flow

Breath of all thing s: breath of all things is force which arises from armament haki and observation haki is the ability to master your strength and focus it on intended target so it hurt s only it and nothing else it has defensive purpose as well users are mihawk zoro ,Cavendish is born with mastery over it but cannot control it ulti also has it rokushiki technique are also based on it. It's full mastery gives yellow hawk like eyes

Voice of all things.:voice of all things is a force which arises from observation haki and conqurers haki is the ability to hurt soul and defend it allows users to attack intangible concept such as pain emotion etc.its users are I'm sama magneta eyes mentioned in baratie and kuma


Manifestation of spirit: manifestation of spirit is force which arises from armament haki and conqurers haki its mastery allows user full mastery of spirit s unique abilities(luffys internal destruction,zoros quake it's full mastery gives blue hawk like eyes

Let's start with basics we know that all blades in one piece verse have different properties depending on the maker who made them here is my line of reasoning

Note: luffys haki gains property of rubber in gear 4

Awakening is of three type

Devil fruit is external power through awakening you make it part of your self in three levels

1 awakening gained through training with sea prism stones example are jailers of impel down and do flamingo. By resisting draining force of sea prism stone they can control devil fruits better

2second awakening is is combining advance armament and observation haki and mastery of flow with your devil fruit so your armament gains property of your devil fruit example luffy gear fourth and admirals awakening it give you greater power and control over your ability

3 this awakening is combining mastery of flow and adv version of all haki with each other I think no one in verse has achieved that it allows you to make devil fruit complete part of yourself.

Luffy is gears 2 based on mastery of blood flow
Luffy gear 3 based on flow of bone mass
Gear4 is based flow of muscle
Luffy will combine haki flow with all the above to achieve awakening

I think mastery of black blade is related to combining your blades property with your flow haki perfectly so you become one with blade


Combination of spirit and physique gives green hawk like eyes ex caribou zunisha

Combination of spirit and physique gives red eyes

Combination of spirit and soul gives dark blue hawk eye

People who have mastered spirit can leave it in form of devil fruit or lineage factor

 

[Blackknife]

Can someone recommend me a OP forum where 90% of the discussion isn't Powerlevels? Reddit is full of Oda bootlickers and forced positivity ,while 4chan is full of autism.