Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion
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Nah I know, it's not really a factor, I just think that if we see them in human form, it's virtually irrefutable that they probably won't get back up. Zoan form at least leaves the idea that "maybe" they do, but even that doesn't have to mean anything.
I need to see the context of them being knocked out later. Sometimes, pictures have way different implications than text. It's like how Redon already explains that while the text says all 5 are down, Oda then doesn't show Ulti and Page 1. We haven't actually gotten instances of seeing them knocked out after their last moments too, which is interesting.
Granted, I believe they are down, it's just interesting because of the fact that 2 of them are not shown here. And if those 2 are not down from Big Mom attacks....
I just think the context of a shonen and how endgame characters arc, Shanks and Blackbeard will be stronger than Kaido/Big Mom "just because".
If Shanks ends up being Luffy's opponent while Zoro is Mihawk's (imo, I can't see where else Mihawk fits other than Shanks's crew now as an ally for the final war), then that might just imply Shanks>Mihawk by virtue of Luffy being the main character and Shanks showing off some stupid broken shit that makes it obvious he's stronger than Mihawk lol
I need to see the context of them being knocked out later. Sometimes, pictures have way different implications than text. It's like how Redon already explains that while the text says all 5 are down, Oda then doesn't show Ulti and Page 1. We haven't actually gotten instances of seeing them knocked out after their last moments too, which is interesting.
Granted, I believe they are down, it's just interesting because of the fact that 2 of them are not shown here. And if those 2 are not down from Big Mom attacks....
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I just think the context of a shonen and how endgame characters arc, Shanks and Blackbeard will be stronger than Kaido/Big Mom "just because".
If Shanks ends up being Luffy's opponent while Zoro is Mihawk's (imo, I can't see where else Mihawk fits other than Shanks's crew now as an ally for the final war), then that might just imply Shanks>Mihawk by virtue of Luffy being the main character and Shanks showing off some stupid broken shit that makes it obvious he's stronger than Mihawk lol
And law saved zoro who saved luffy
so law is the most important right?
so law is the most important right?
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I didn't argue that. I argued that joker was not donflamingos real name. Same with king and Jack and queen
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Smart man both are good options for him.
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Ulti and page one awakening 
Base king defeated marco without hybrid or using flame attacks And queen was fighting marco in zoan form for most part so he can only use one beam attack in comparison to multiple and even then was not always fighting marco 
King is basically -- Ace + Swordsman + Zoan user he is a monster ; marco need's same defense as he used against kizaru to block his attacks
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Base king defeated marco without hybrid or using flame attacks
And queen was fighting marco in zoan form for most part so he can only use one beam attack in comparison to multiple and even then was not always fighting marco King is basically -- Ace + Swordsman + Zoan user he is a monster ; marco need's same defense as he used against kizaru to block his attacks
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Plot wise it make sense but powerlevel wise not really
Match-up are essential to see a growth in character and them achieving their goals
For example Robin vs Black Maria was really good
She showed us that she worked to less be the one everyone protects
But bar from Robin and Franky who had hard time
Wa no match-ups feels rushed I guess
Match-up are essential to see a growth in character and them achieving their goals
For example Robin vs Black Maria was really good
She showed us that she worked to less be the one everyone protects
But bar from Robin and Franky who had hard time
Wa no match-ups feels rushed I guess
The issue is, we've never actually seen Jinbe's upper limit. I think that was also the point. Oda made it seem like they were equal, only have Jinbe get pissed and wreck him with superior haki and 2 techniques.
Up to Oda now though to either have WsW get up (doubtful imo) or just stay down and use Jinbe somewhere else to struggle (i.e. Jack or Big Mom). Technically, Franky is also relatively uninjured from his fight. Only general was destroyed
Up to Oda now though to either have WsW get up (doubtful imo) or just stay down and use Jinbe somewhere else to struggle (i.e. Jack or Big Mom). Technically, Franky is also relatively uninjured from his fight. Only general was destroyed
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