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Joker >= King by epithet alone.
"But but Joker can also be < Jack in some card games". Yeah, looking at Jack's trash performance and given Oda himself said the name Joker comes from the idea of making Joker a powerful and super tricky ally of Kaido; so powerful Oda is glad that Doffy was dealt with before Wano, we can understand which route Oda wanted to go.
 
Joker >= King by epithet alone.
"But but Joker can also be < Jack in some card games". Yeah, looking at Jack's trash performance and given Oda himself said the name Joker comes from the idea of making Joker a powerful and super tricky ally of Kaido; so powerful Oda is glad that Doffy was dealt with before Wano, we can understand which route Oda wanted to go.
"Oda is glad" when did he ever state he was happy to get rid of Doffy?

And that's very early in one piece
 
"Oda is glad" when did he ever state he was happy to get rid of Doffy?

And that's very early in one piece
Oda in a recent SBS (during Wano arc) said, the epithet Joker comes from his initial idea of making Doffy Kaido's powerful ally in Wano. He further said, "it's fortunate such a tricky opponent was dealt with earlier". What does that mean? That he is jack level?
 
And? Crocodile is the only character to push Luffy to use Gomu Gomu no Storm. A once in a while attack doesn't mean shit
But King Kong gun is explicitly Luffy’s ultimate attack.

And it was very clear from the expressions, dialogue, paneling, and choreography that Doffy’s injuries were slowing him down. And despite that he managed to outlast Gear 4 just like Cracker and Katakuri and forced basically all of Dressrosa to stall him for Luffy.

It’s very obvious that Doffy is commander level. Add in how bad Jack looks and how easily Doffy caught Jozu, and it’s safe say he’s definitely at least in that Yc2/Yc1 power tier.
 
But King Kong gun is explicitly Luffy’s ultimate attack.

And it was very clear from the expressions, dialogue, paneling, and choreography that Doffy’s injuries were slowing him down. And despite that he managed to outlast Gear 4 just like Cracker and Katakuri and forced basically all of Dressrosa to stall him for Luffy.

It’s very obvious that Doffy is commander level. Add in how bad Jack looks and how easily Doffy caught Jozu, and it’s safe say he’s definitely at least in that Yc2/Yc1 power tier.
People denying Doffy being commander level are just being petty, out of spite for Doffy wankers:kayneshrug:
 

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Wano is just going too smoothly. There has to be a curveball coming from Oda around here somewhere.

We still haven't gotten the ticking timebomb scenario. Onigashima heading to the Flower Capital is just a front. The people don't even know the Island is coming, there is no panic, and for only one city to be in jeopardy when we are in the middle of a fight against a Yonko is absurd. Fishman Island, Punk Hazard, Dressrosa, Zou, and WCI all suffered Country wide threats. But Wano only suffers a city wide threat?

This shit ain't adding up.
Inb4 wano finishes next chapter we go back and all beast pirates and meme are beaten.
 
I'm jumping ship, when WANO is done, and I recommend people do the same, things like Luffy 1x3 Admirals will happen to entertain the kid audience that this manga has. The total comedy is here.
Wot Luffy vs 3 Admirals at once? Even as a supporter of Luffy's powerlevel, i dont think that will happen. Oda must maintain Admiral fandom as well lol.

...except if Oda deliberately showed Luffy vs 3 Admirals in Marineford as a foreshadowing to a real showdown of After-Wano Luffy vs 3 Admiral with a Luffy's real intention of winning lol, but imo it's still unlikely. At most Oda will go that route with future BB, and even that is still unlikely
 

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To do what ? Send kaido flying. Sure he will. Then what. Kaidos getting back up.
He is gna get back up on his last legs after Luffy has broken his will, see the five legends once again and decide to fly out of Wano like a coward. That's when Zoro will come in for the kill:jordanmf:

That's how it is going to play out. Either that or KKG cripples him:kayneshrug:
 
And Gomu Gomu no Storm was clearly Luffy's ultimate attack and never used it again.
He used attacks superior to Gomu Gomu no storm in the next arcs though. Gold Rifler > Gomu Gomu no Storm, Jet Bazooka > Gomu Gomu No Storm, Jet Gatling > Gomu Gomu No storm, Gigant pistol > gomu gomu no storm
While he didn't use any attack surpassing KKG in AP yet.
 
Oda in a recent SBS (during Wano arc) said, the epithet Joker comes from his initial idea of making Doffy Kaido's powerful ally in Wano.
Yes, everybody knows this, which is why I said early in one piece, before Doflamingo was even his name. Did you forget that part?

He further said, "it's fortunate such a tricky opponent was dealt with earlier". What does that mean? That he is jack level?
No, it could mean a lot of different things. Seeing how he's offpaneling fights it can also mean he's happy he won't do a disservice to doffy and offpanel him too

Again, Doffy being Kaido's ally in Wano was very early One Piece, like before he was even introduced
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He used attacks superior to Gomu Gomu no storm in the next arcs though. Gold Rifler > Gomu Gomu no Storm, Jet Bazooka > Gomu Gomu No Storm, Jet Gatling > Gomu Gomu No storm, Gigant pistol > gomu gomu no storm
While he didn't use any attack surpassing KKG in AP yet.
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Yes, everybody knows this, which is why I said early in one piece, before Doflamingo was even his name. Did you forget that part?
Yes. And Oda kept the epithet Joker. To say that power wise nothing changed.
No, it could mean a lot of different things. Seeing how he's offpaneling fights it can also mean he's happy he won't do a disservice to doffy and offpanel him too
No. It means exactly that, when Oda says "such a tricky opponent". Let's not start with mental gymnastics.
 
Again, Doffy being Kaido's ally in Wano was very early One Piece, like before he was even introduced
Before who was introduced? Doffy existed as a character when Kaido was just a silhouette.

The "Joker" plotline was obviously a new addition that existed up until Punk Hazard. That's when Oda changed it up. There was no "Joker" pretime skip. That's clear as fuck.
 
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